• raspberrypi.social found to be antisocial

    From Eli the Bearded@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, December 10, 2022 00:09:49
    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspb erry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    Elijah
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    has seen a lot of talk about switching to other single board computers

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  • From scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us@3:770/3 to Eli the Bearded on Sunday, December 11, 2022 01:31:18
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    What a dumpster fire Mastodon has turned into. This makes pre-Elon Twitter look like a beacon of sanity by comparison.

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  • From A. Dumas@3:770/3 to scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us on Sunday, December 11, 2022 14:59:44
    <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    What a dumpster fire Mastodon has turned into. This makes pre-Elon Twitter look like a beacon of sanity by comparison.

    Bullshit. It was Raspberry Pi (Liz Upton herself, I suspect) who fucked up.

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  • From Jim Jackson@3:770/3 to Dumas on Sunday, December 11, 2022 20:29:50
    On 2022-12-11, A Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote: ><scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    What a dumpster fire Mastodon has turned into. This makes pre-Elon Twitter >> look like a beacon of sanity by comparison.

    Bullshit. It was Raspberry Pi (Liz Upton herself, I suspect) who
    fucked up.


    I suspect not. She was wheeled in when things got hot.

    As an occasional Raspberry Forum attendee, I've noticed that some of
    their moderators are a bit close-down-happy - threads are closed down or
    people are warned they risk a banning. Yes I know some people don't know
    when to stop when they are line - so some control is often necessary.

    What I've read of this pile up, on the whole I'm a bit sorry for RPI -
    the guy they've employed is an EX-copper. He just taken on a fun civvy
    job doing some fun maker stuff with Pi. Some of the "complaints" are
    just lame. Anyone in open source just has just got to get used that open-source, SW & HW, is just that OPEN and people will use it in ways
    you don't like. Get over it.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:770/3 to Jim Jackson on Monday, December 12, 2022 07:39:54
    Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote:
    On 2022-12-11, A Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
    <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    What a dumpster fire Mastodon has turned into. This makes pre-Elon Twitter >>> look like a beacon of sanity by comparison.

    Bullshit. It was Raspberry Pi (Liz Upton herself, I suspect) who
    fucked up.

    I suspect not. She was wheeled in when things got hot.

    As an occasional Raspberry Forum attendee, I've noticed that some of
    their moderators are a bit close-down-happy - threads are closed down or people are warned they risk a banning. Yes I know some people don't know
    when to stop when they are line - so some control is often necessary.

    What I've read of this pile up, on the whole I'm a bit sorry for RPI -
    the guy they've employed is an EX-copper. He just taken on a fun civvy
    job doing some fun maker stuff with Pi.

    It took me a while to even pick up that this was the issue based on
    that article, which seems to assume that you already know that cops
    are some sort of Twitter/Mastodon pressure-point. All very
    peculiar if you ask me, but I don't really understand the appeal
    of the platforms, so perhaps it's unsurprising that I don't
    understand the people who use them.

    Some of the "complaints" are
    just lame. Anyone in open source just has just got to get used that open-source, SW & HW, is just that OPEN and people will use it in ways
    you don't like. Get over it.

    Indeed, and cops are obviously going to set up any surveillance
    system they want one way or other anyway, they might as well
    contribute to open-source projects while doing so rather than
    funding alternative proprietary systems which others can't apply
    to other applications.

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  • From scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us@3:770/3 to A. Dumas on Monday, December 12, 2022 01:13:19
    A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
    <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    What a dumpster fire Mastodon has turned into. This makes pre-Elon Twitter >> look like a beacon of sanity by comparison.

    Bullshit. It was Raspberry Pi (Liz Upton herself, I suspect) who fucked up.

    How? Just because some danger-haired hamplanets are upset over Raspberry
    Pi's hiring decisions doesn't mean they've done something objectively wrong.

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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to A. Dumas on Sunday, December 11, 2022 21:11:05
    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incide he-fediverse/

    What a dumpster fire Mastodon has turned into. This makes pre-Elon Twit look like a beacon of sanity by comparison.

    Bullshit. It was Raspberry Pi (Liz Upton herself, I suspect) who fucked up.

    Blah. Bryan Lunduke just released a post that I fully agree with. Online bullying of retro computing companies and projects has gotten way out of control. Jesus - the Pi is the best thing to happen to SBC hobbyists - ever.

    Cmon man...



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  • From Martin Gregorie@3:770/3 to scott on Monday, December 12, 2022 13:15:27
    On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 01:13:19 GMT, scott wrote:

    How? Just because some danger-haired hamplanets are upset over
    Raspberry Pi's hiring decisions doesn't mean they've done something objectively wrong.

    Exactly so: I've worked with ex-coppers without problems, even if some
    looked a bit wall-eyes at the mere sniff of weed.

    Now, if this ex-copper had FSD tattoos on his arm or was a Putin relative,
    than there may be a case for complaint, but AFAIK this guy hasn't and
    isn't.


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  • From A. Dumas@3:770/3 to scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us on Monday, December 12, 2022 20:42:55
    <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
    <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    What a dumpster fire Mastodon has turned into. This makes pre-Elon Twitter >>> look like a beacon of sanity by comparison.

    Bullshit. It was Raspberry Pi (Liz Upton herself, I suspect) who fucked up.

    How? Just because some danger-haired hamplanets are upset over Raspberry Pi's hiring decisions doesn't mean they've done something objectively wrong.

    This is completely beside the point. Yes, there were some inevitable rude comments but the uproar was about them placing front & centre that he was a surveillance cop (I'm sure we need them sometimes), some readers posting civilised & legitimate criticism and then Pi Inc having a "block everyone & their friends" breakdown while replying with condescending insults. *They*
    were the ones behaving like immature assholes. Very unprofessional.

    What they did objectively wrong was how they handled this whole thing. What they also did wrong from a PR point of view in my opinion, was playing up
    that he was a surveillance cop. No problem mentioning it, but their
    emphasis was just asking for trouble.

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  • From Jim H@3:770/3 to Eli the Bearded on Monday, December 12, 2022 21:45:00
    On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 00:09:49 -0000 (UTC), in <eli$2212091909@qaz.wtf>,
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

    About the Mastodon thing:

    https://eiara.nz/posts/2022/Dec/09/a-case-study-on-raspberry-pis-incident-on-the-fediverse/

    Elijah
    ------
    has seen a lot of talk about switching to other single board computers


    Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the folks who try to inject their
    politics into other people's lives with the intent of destroying those
    lives (cancel culture) would just find something else to occupy their
    sad little lives.



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    Jim H

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