• Ethernet not active

    From nelsonse48@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Monday, September 19, 2022 15:32:45
    I was reconfiguring my rpi computers today and accidently unplugged the ethernet cable to my rpi4b while my rpi4b (4G) 32bit Buster was running. After rebooting and repowering my rpi4 does not have ethernet active nor is the port on my ethernet switch
    active. When I plug in my laptop using same cable the switch port is active and the Mac laptop has ethernet-internet. Is my rpi4 ethernet dead or is there someway to reactivate it?
    --Steve

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  • From Chris Green@3:770/3 to nelso...@gmail.com on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 09:15:40
    nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:
    I was reconfiguring my rpi computers today and accidently unplugged the ethernet cable to my rpi4b while my rpi4b (4G) 32bit Buster was running. After rebooting and repowering my rpi4 does not have ethernet active nor
    is the port on my ethernet switch active. When I plug in my laptop using
    same cable the switch port is active and the Mac laptop has ethernet-internet.
    Is my rpi4 ethernet dead or is there someway to reactivate it?

    It does take quite a while for ethernet to 'wake up' on a Pi in my
    experience. Leave it for several minutes at least before doing
    anything more drastic.

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  • From Chris Elvidge@3:770/3 to nelso...@gmail.com on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 11:52:51
    On 19/09/2022 23:32, nelso...@gmail.com wrote:
    I was reconfiguring my rpi computers today and accidently unplugged the ethernet cable to my rpi4b while my rpi4b (4G) 32bit Buster was running. After rebooting and repowering my rpi4 does not have ethernet active nor is the port on my ethernet switch
    active. When I plug in my laptop using same cable the switch port is active and the Mac laptop has ethernet-internet. Is my rpi4 ethernet dead or is there someway to reactivate it?
    --Steve


    Unplug the pi for a few minutes before rebooting?

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  • From nelsonse48@gmail.com@3:770/3 to Chris Elvidge on Thursday, September 22, 2022 06:43:41
    On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:52:53 AM UTC-5, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 19/09/2022 23:32, nelso...@gmail.com wrote:
    I was reconfiguring my rpi computers today and accidently unplugged the ethernet cable to my rpi4b while my rpi4b (4G) 32bit Buster was running. After rebooting and repowering my rpi4 does not have ethernet active nor is the port on my ethernet
    switch active. When I plug in my laptop using same cable the switch port is active and the Mac laptop has ethernet-internet. Is my rpi4 ethernet dead or is there someway to reactivate it?
    --Steve

    Unplug the pi for a few minutes before rebooting?

    --
    Chris Elvidge
    England
    Problem resolved (for now). I unpugged rpi for a couple hours. Didn't resolve issue. After several reboots I tried "ifconfig eth0 start". After two more reboots ethernet started working again! Did I fix it? I don't know but ethernet is now working
    again. I am afraid to reboot again :-)
    Thanks to Chris G. and Chris E.

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  • From bob prohaska@3:770/3 to nelso...@gmail.com on Thursday, September 22, 2022 19:13:59
    nelso...@gmail.com <nelsonse48@gmail.com> wrote:
    Problem resolved (for now). I unpugged rpi for a couple hours. Didn't resolve issue. After several reboots I tried "ifconfig eth0 start". After two more reboots ethernet started working again! Did I fix it? I don't know but ethernet is now
    working again. I am afraid to reboot again :-)

    It might be informative to report the state of the link lights next
    to the RJ45 port. If neither lights up it's likely a faulty connection,
    either in the Pi or the cable connectors.

    Intermittents can take a long time to find, it's not a waste of time to keep written notes of what you've tried and what happened.

    Good luck,

    bob prohaska

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  • From Deloptes@3:770/3 to nelso...@gmail.com on Friday, September 23, 2022 08:09:14
    nelso...@gmail.com wrote:

    I was reconfiguring my rpi computers today and accidently unplugged the ethernet cable to my rpi4b while my rpi4b (4G) 32bit Buster was running. After rebooting and repowering my rpi4 does not have ethernet active nor
    is the port on my ethernet switch active.  When I plug in my laptop using same cable the switch port is active and the Mac laptop has ethernet-internet.  Is my rpi4 ethernet dead or is there someway to reactivate it?

    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with static
    config

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  • From nelsonse48@gmail.com@3:770/3 to Deloptes on Friday, September 23, 2022 08:07:28
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:09:16 AM UTC-5, Deloptes wrote:
    nelso...@gmail.com wrote:

    I was reconfiguring my rpi computers today and accidently unplugged the ethernet cable to my rpi4b while my rpi4b (4G) 32bit Buster was running. After rebooting and repowering my rpi4 does not have ethernet active nor
    is the port on my ethernet switch active. When I plug in my laptop using same cable the switch port is active and the Mac laptop has ethernet-internet. Is my rpi4 ethernet dead or is there someway to reactivate it?
    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with static
    config
    Bob: The link lights on neither the rpi nor the ethernet switch worked. They do now.
    Deloptes: I never tried ethtool. I am almost a noob even though I have 9 rpis and had one 1 or more for several years :-(

    Thanks to all for helping! --Steven

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to nelso...@gmail.com on Friday, September 23, 2022 16:36:29
    On 23/09/2022 16:07, nelso...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:09:16 AM UTC-5, Deloptes wrote:
    nelso...@gmail.com wrote:

    I was reconfiguring my rpi computers today and accidently unplugged the
    ethernet cable to my rpi4b while my rpi4b (4G) 32bit Buster was running. >>> After rebooting and repowering my rpi4 does not have ethernet active nor >>> is the port on my ethernet switch active. When I plug in my laptop using >>> same cable the switch port is active and the Mac laptop has
    ethernet-internet. Is my rpi4 ethernet dead or is there someway to
    reactivate it?
    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with static
    config
    Bob: The link lights on neither the rpi nor the ethernet switch worked. They do now.

    I am fairly sure that is so low level an issue that it won't be software.
    That sounds like a dodgy cable or plug.



    Deloptes: I never tried ethtool. I am almost a noob even though I have 9 rpis and had one 1 or more for several years :-(

    Thanks to all for helping! --Steven

    ethtool and ifconfig are good diagnostic tools. As are the lights on the ethernet interfaces

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  • From Deloptes@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Friday, September 23, 2022 21:57:54
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Bob: The link lights on neither the rpi nor the ethernet switch worked.
    They do now.

    I am fairly sure that is so low level an issue that it won't be software. That sounds like a dodgy cable or plug.


    once there was some particle inside the RJ45 socket of the notebook which isolated one of the connectors and internet was not working

    OP reported that same cable is working on another machine



    Deloptes:  I never tried ethtool.  I am almost a noob even though I have >> 9 rpis and had one 1 or more for several years :-(

    Thanks to all for helping!  --Steven

    ethtool and ifconfig are good diagnostic tools. As are the lights on the ethernet interfaces


    yes indeed and it would tell us if the link is active and how it is
    configured

    also there is nothing wrong to do something for the first time in your
    life - in this case executing ethtool command in the command line (Actually sudo ethtool)

    BR

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Marco Moock on Saturday, September 24, 2022 13:04:55
    On 24/09/2022 12:27, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 23.09.2022 um 08:09:14 Uhr schrieb Deloptes:

    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with static
    config

    This is unrelated until the ethernet link is established and the link
    LED lights up.

    Not only that, but my understanding is that the link lights will light irrespective of any software opening the Ethernet port.

    In short lack, of link lights means the cables or connector ports are
    faulty..


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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, September 24, 2022 13:27:07
    Am 23.09.2022 um 08:09:14 Uhr schrieb Deloptes:

    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with static
    config

    This is unrelated until the ethernet link is established and the link
    LED lights up.

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  • From Tauno Voipio@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Saturday, September 24, 2022 17:56:43
    On 24.9.22 15.04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/09/2022 12:27, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 23.09.2022 um 08:09:14 Uhr schrieb Deloptes:

    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with static
    config

    This is unrelated until the ethernet link is established and the link
    LED lights up.

    Not only that, but my understanding is that the link lights will light irrespective of any software opening the Ethernet port.

    In short lack, of link lights means the cables or connector ports are faulty..


    To light the Ethernet link lights, the physical driver part of the
    Ethernet chip (from MII to encoded Ethernet data) must be initialized,
    so some driver functions are needed.

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Monday, September 26, 2022 07:15:10
    Am 24.09.2022 um 13:04:55 Uhr schrieb The Natural Philosopher:

    On 24/09/2022 12:27, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 23.09.2022 um 08:09:14 Uhr schrieb Deloptes:

    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with
    static config

    This is unrelated until the ethernet link is established and the
    link LED lights up.

    Not only that, but my understanding is that the link lights will
    light irrespective of any software opening the Ethernet port.

    In short lack, of link lights means the cables or connector ports are faulty..

    No, it is only relevant that both sides successfully established a
    link (it is called so). If the interface is "down" the link isn't
    possible, so the link LED will switch off. Also if there is a
    speed/duplex mismatch (NICs are set to a specific speed, but not the
    same), no link is there and the link LED won't light up permanently.

    You can try out to set the link down with
    ip link set eth0 down

    Then the hardware is fine, but the connection isn't active.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Marco Moock on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:23:12
    On 26/09/2022 06:15, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 24.09.2022 um 13:04:55 Uhr schrieb The Natural Philosopher:

    On 24/09/2022 12:27, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 23.09.2022 um 08:09:14 Uhr schrieb Deloptes:

    try the ethtool and post back the result.

    also interesting - is it configured with dynamic (dhcp) or with
    static config

    This is unrelated until the ethernet link is established and the
    link LED lights up.

    Not only that, but my understanding is that the link lights will
    light irrespective of any software opening the Ethernet port.

    In short lack, of link lights means the cables or connector ports are
    faulty..

    No, it is only relevant that both sides successfully established a
    link (it is called so). If the interface is "down" the link isn't
    possible, so the link LED will switch off. Also if there is a
    speed/duplex mismatch (NICs are set to a specific speed, but not the
    same), no link is there and the link LED won't light up permanently.

    You can try out to set the link down with
    ip link set eth0 down

    Then the hardware is fine, but the connection isn't active.

    Oh dear. I am not able to run that command on my Ethernet switch. It
    doesn't understand TCP/IP at all.

    Obviously it cannot be working at all.


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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Monday, September 26, 2022 17:54:09
    Am 26.09.2022 um 08:23:12 Uhr schrieb The Natural Philosopher:

    Oh dear. I am not able to run that command on my Ethernet switch. It
    doesn't understand TCP/IP at all.

    Obviously it cannot be working at all.

    You can run it on Linux. On Windows you can reach that by disabling the
    network connection in ncpa.cpl.

    Ethernet switches can also switch off ports.
    Cisco uses "shutdown" in the interface subcommand to reach that.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Marco Moock on Monday, September 26, 2022 17:30:54
    On 26/09/2022 16:54, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 26.09.2022 um 08:23:12 Uhr schrieb The Natural Philosopher:

    Oh dear. I am not able to run that command on my Ethernet switch. It
    doesn't understand TCP/IP at all.

    Obviously it cannot be working at all.

    You can run it on Linux. On Windows you can reach that by disabling the network connection in ncpa.cpl.

    Ethernet switches can also switch off ports.
    Cisco uses "shutdown" in the interface subcommand to reach that.

    My switch has no command interface at all. I shut it down by
    disconnecting the power :=-)

    Even a PC booted to its BIOS screen will light a link light on a switch.
    It certainly doesn't require an operating system


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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Monday, September 26, 2022 19:33:05
    Am 26.09.2022 um 17:30:54 Uhr schrieb The Natural Philosopher:

    My switch has no command interface at all. I shut it down by
    disconnecting the power :=-)

    A managed switch can be configured fi you like that possibility.

    Even a PC booted to its BIOS screen will light a link light on a
    switch. It certainly doesn't require an operating system

    Most computers include an UEFI that supports networking (e.g. for
    network boot, Wake on LAN, firmware update etc.). This is the reason
    for that. There is a really small operating system like Intel Boot
    Agent that controls the NIC in that state.

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