• California + the Environm

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Sunday, October 01, 2023 13:08:00
    After visiting California, I can safely say we should not be listening to anyone whose ever been in charge out there when it comes to the environment.

    (1) Los Angeles could fix their air problems very easily, and without
    forcing electric cars or limiting travel. If you drive the surface streets
    out there, just about every city in Los Angeles County (and some in
    surrounding areas) have their traffic lights timed wrong. If you travel
    the posted speed limit, on a major throughfare, you will be lucky to make
    more than two lights in a row. That means a WHOLE lot of time sitting in traffic with your car idling.

    If you do what I did, and follow another driver with California plates who
    has figured out that you really need to go 10-15 over in order to make the lights, you can eventually get somewhere AND you are not stuck sitting
    while your car pollutes the air.

    Fixing this would go a long way to stopping cars idling in traffic. It
    would probably also rob them of the potential income from speeding tickets
    so I doubt they will fix it.

    (2) Even outside the cities, California is dirty. Out in the desert or up
    in the mountains NE of the city, the sides of the roads are littered with trash. Even way out in the desert, between Palm Springs and the Colorado River, it is filthy. Up between Palmdale and Red Rock, it is filthy. Heck, even along the sides of Sunset in Beverly Hills, it is filthy.

    About the only place I visted where #1 was not true was in City of
    Industry, so someone knows what they are doing when it comes to lights and traffic flow. The only place where #2 didn't seem to be true might have
    been Glendora. Covina seemed "normal" for an area its size. Everywhere
    else, in the parks and other "pretty areas," you had to be able to ignore a
    lot of trash to appreciate what you were looking at.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Monday, October 02, 2023 07:59:36
    Mike Powell wrote to ALL <=-

    After visiting California, I can safely say we should not be listening
    to anyone whose ever been in charge out there when it comes to the environment.

    The Left is full of hypocrites. Always has been.

    Do like I say, not as I do.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Monday, October 02, 2023 09:04:00
    After visiting California, I can safely say we should not be listening to anyone whose ever been in charge out there when it comes to the environment.

    The Left is full of hypocrites. Always has been.

    Do like I say, not as I do.

    I was really surprised that a place with a lot of natural beauty could be
    so filthy at the same time. When it comes to the environment, their
    government really seems to have its head firmly planted in its arse.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, October 03, 2023 07:48:47
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I was really surprised that a place with a lot of natural beauty could
    be so filthy at the same time. When it comes to the environment, their government really seems to have its head firmly planted in its arse.

    That's because they never do as they say. And if the choice is between benefiting the public or themselves, they will always choose themselves.


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