• Morality Police

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alexander Grotewohl on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 18:51:28
    Hello Alexander,

    Banning books that have sexual perversion to push it on children SD>is
    bad? What kind of pervert are you?

    this one is funny. they make it sound like the books are unavailable. they

    Public libraries are open to the public. And funded by taxpapers.
    You and Sean are not the morality police. As such, you and Sean do
    not get to decide which books are available, and which are not, to
    the public. We get to do that. That is why we fund them. It is our
    money, well spent.

    If you and Sean have an objection to a book that is in your local
    public library, feel free to inform the library board asking for a
    review of said book.

    Or move to Iran, where the ayatollahs have plenty of morality
    police around. You'll love 'em.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@1:120/616 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 15:09:56
    On 30 May 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    You and Sean are not the morality police. As such, you and Sean do
    not get to decide which books are available, and which are not, to
    the public. We get to do that. That is why we fund them. It is our
    money, well spent.

    You don't really seem to understand. "You don't get to decide" is incorrect. You yourself then outline exactly how we get to decide. If you care about the system you simply can't complain when my request to the library board results in the removal of a book.

    You're not arguing against MY point though, which is where to draw the line on when a book is available. And if you read my post I'm only arguing against the availability of some of these books to children/under 18.

    Here's a photo from one of these book by the way. Maybe an impressionable child on your life will repeat this act with an abusive adult and think it's totally okay. There are plenty of examples of the author saying it's for children as young as 11.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxNqEZrWYAEW0pD.jpg

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 16:11:00
    this one is funny. they make it sound like the books are unavailable. they
    an
    be purchased on amazon, checked out from the library, etc. we just don't
    ant
    them in school libraries or in the children's section of public libraries.
    n
    fact to avoid problems i'm sure many libraries specifically keep them in the >> general library and not the children's/young adults part.

    Why do you want to ban books?

    Libraries are not giving pornography to children.

    If you search online, you should be able to find at least two instances
    where a parent went to a school board meeting and attempted to read aloud a book that was available in their elementary schooler's library. In the case
    in particular that I posted about here several weeks ago, the board made
    the parent stop reading because the reading of "pornography" (THEIR word)
    was not allowed at school board meetings.

    I could not figure out how they could justify having such a book in the
    school library that was so unfit it could not be read aloud at a board
    meeting.

    I have seen the illustrations from some of the books that people wanted included in school libraries. As the illustrations depict sexual acts, I disagree that it is not porography and also disagree that it should be available in an elementary school library for kids who are 10 and under to find.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 15:32:08
    Why do you want to ban books?

    Libraries are not giving pornography to children.

    If you search online, you should be able to find at least two instances
    where a parent went to a school board meeting and attempted to read aloud a book that was available in their elementary schooler's library. In the case in particular that I posted about here several weeks ago, the board made
    the parent stop reading because the reading of "pornography" (THEIR word)
    was not allowed at school board meetings.

    I have not seen pornography in a school library. It has been years since I visited a library but I don't think you will find pornagraphy there.

    If you find pornography there then sure, remove it.

    I could not figure out how they could justify having such a book in the school library that was so unfit it could not be read aloud at a board meeting.

    Is that the norm?

    I have seen the illustrations from some of the books that people wanted included in school libraries. As the illustrations depict sexual acts, I disagree that it is not porography and also disagree that it should be available in an elementary school library for kids who are 10 and under to find.

    I agree. I don't know how that kind of material found it's way into the library and it is good to remove it.

    This new "Ban the Books" drive is a little much, don't you think?

    The bible has been banned in a number of places. Books on black history have been banned. What good is that?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Wednesday, May 31, 2023 15:11:00
    I could not figure out how they could justify having such a book in the school library that was so unfit it could not be read aloud at a board meeting.

    Is that the norm?

    I am not sure but, in this case, they did not want to hear the parent's complaint about it and also did not want it read aloud so, in that
    district, I would not be surprised.

    I have seen the illustrations from some of the books that people wanted included in school libraries. As the illustrations depict sexual acts, I disagree that it is not porography and also disagree that it should be available in an elementary school library for kids who are 10 and under to find.

    I agree. I don't know how that kind of material found it's way into the
    ibrar
    and it is good to remove it.

    This new "Ban the Books" drive is a little much, don't you think?

    I agree it is an overreation, but it was a predictable reaction considering some of the demands from others (to have the books like I describe above readily available in elementary school libraries).

    If they had been smart, and not made such outlandish demands, I don't think
    we would be seeing the book banning movement gaining any steam.

    The bible has been banned in a number of places. Books on black history have

    n banned. What good is that?

    It is not good.


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