• Re: Durham Report explain

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, May 20, 2023 09:03:37
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Björn Felten <=-

    Why ask if I have read it, when you have the opportunity to do so?
    Another sarcastic lib "WHY" omit or delete the links that I provided.

    Because it's the standard Ignorant Elitist tactics of smear and misdirection.

    Our redisident "swedish" meatball can't argue against it, so he has to do something - which won't have anything to do with the actual facts.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tuesday, May 23, 2023 15:36:00
    It was not a hoax. The Mueller report did not charge Donald Trump with
    nythin
    it was never going to. It didn't exonerate him either.

    https://youtu.be/HMp9_f-jxDw

    "For years, Donald Trump and his supporters pinned their hopes on the investigation by [the special counsel] John Durham, Trump and his allies arguing it would exonerate him from any hint of improper behavior regarding
    the Russian government's attempts to interfere in the 2016 election.
    The report is now here, it has dropped, and it might not have produced everything of what some Republicans hoped for, [but] it is regardless devastating to the FBI and to a degree, it does exonerate Donald Trump."

    -- Jake Tapper, CNN

    I will take his word over yours, especially since I doubt you will even
    read/be able to understand all of what is quoted above.

    The Durham report pointed what out?

    See above. It is "devastating to the FBI and to a degree, it does exonerate Donald Trump."


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tuesday, May 23, 2023 15:37:00

    The US is doing well and the constitution holds.


    On the news this morning, they mentioned that US business are going
    bankrupt at rate not seen since the 2008 Recession, and that market
    analysts expect business to continue to do so, pushing the rate beyond that seen in 2008.

    News in this case = local and not FOX or any other news channel.

    I would not call that doing well.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, May 23, 2023 14:12:50
    On the news this morning, they mentioned that US business are going
    bankrupt at rate not seen since the 2008 Recession, and that market
    analysts expect business to continue to do so, pushing the rate beyond that seen in 2008.

    News in this case = local and not FOX or any other news channel.

    I would not call that doing well.

    The failure of congress to raise the debt ceiling and pay the debt is going to be much harder on the economy.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Wednesday, May 24, 2023 15:51:00
    On the news this morning, they mentioned that US business are going bankrupt at rate not seen since the 2008 Recession, and that market analysts expect business to continue to do so, pushing the rate beyond that seen in 2008.

    News in this case = local and not FOX or any other news channel.

    I would not call that doing well.

    The failure of congress to raise the debt ceiling and pay the debt is going
    o
    e much harder on the economy.

    That we might do worse in the future still does not mean we are doing well
    *now*.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Wednesday, May 24, 2023 15:27:00
    This is not a lie... they are currently trying to investigate this now... FBI istle blowers gave document numbers to the GOP house investigators... FBI
    aid
    hey had those documents but aren't releasing them.

    DOJ should be the ones to in force the document request... but they are part

    the problem.

    One of the whistleblowers should tell the DOJ that Trump has the documents.
    They would look for them then.

    There is nothing to expand on. Hillary was investigated and no charges were made.


    Do you not watch the news?? It's been shown that Hillary's investigation was opped suddenly without being completed. GOP are saying they'll cut the FBI's nding if they can't explain this...

    Part of it was because she claimed to have a head injury and couldn't
    remember anything. <rollseyes>

    Alan only watches news that doesn't make him sad, which means nothing that makes Biden, Hillary, Trudolf, Hunter, or any other leftists/Democrats look bad.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Wednesday, May 24, 2023 15:55:00
    I did not say Mueller ... The Durham report, just released, said Trump had nothing to do with Russia...

    Is that what it says?

    "For years, Donald Trump and his supporters pinned their hopes on the investigation by [the special counsel] John Durham, Trump and his allies arguing it would exonerate him from any hint of improper behavior regarding
    the Russian government's attempts to interfere in the 2016 election.
    The report is now here, it has dropped, and it might not have produced everything of what some Republicans hoped for, [but] it is regardless devastating to the FBI and to a degree, it does exonerate Donald Trump."

    -- Jake Tapper, CNN

    I watched Mueller testify and he has about the same amount of
    Alzheimer's as Joe has...

    I don't know Meuller aside from the fact that his report does not exonerate
    o
    ld Trump.

    Which means you didn't see many news stories about it as Meuller was shown speaking often during said stories.

    That is a lie.

    This is not a lie... they are currently trying to investigate this now...
    B
    whistle blowers gave document numbers to the GOP house investigators... FBI said they had those documents but aren't releasing them.

    I believe it is a lie. Comer and Jordan are beyond comedy but I'll have a
    ook
    nd see what this is about.

    So you called it a lie without knowing anything about it?

    You and Adam Schiff would make a good team.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, May 24, 2023 14:08:14
    The failure of congress to raise the debt ceiling and pay the debt is going >> to be much harder on the economy.

    That we might do worse in the future still does not mean we are doing well *now*.

    The US economy is not doing badly under Biden.

    You have the same challenges as always but the economy is not doing badly.

    If congress fails to increase the debt ceiling that will tank the economy.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, May 24, 2023 14:12:00
    I believe it is a lie. Comer and Jordan are beyond comedy but I'll have a
    look and see what this is about.

    So you called it a lie without knowing anything about it?

    It was/is a lie. Where is this document?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Thursday, May 25, 2023 07:37:16
    Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-

    One of the whistleblowers should tell the DOJ that Trump has the documents.
    They would look for them then.

    It won't work. Look how they sat on the Hunter Biden laptop.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, May 25, 2023 14:49:03
    Hello Alan,

    On the news this morning, they mentioned that US business are going
    bankrupt at rate not seen since the 2008 Recession, and that market
    analysts expect business to continue to do so, pushing the rate beyond
    that
    seen in 2008.

    News in this case = local and not FOX or any other news channel.

    I would not call that doing well.

    The failure of congress to raise the debt ceiling and pay the debt is going
    to be much harder on the economy.

    Didn't bother President Trump and his Republican dominated Congress,
    which passed his tax cuts for the wealthy and raised the debt ceiling
    three times to pay for it, forcing everybody else to go along with it.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thursday, May 25, 2023 09:45:30
    On 24 May 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    One of the whistleblowers should tell the DOJ that Trump has the documents. They would look for them then.

    HAHAHA


    Part of it was because she claimed to have a head injury and couldn't remember anything. <rollseyes>

    Alan only watches news that doesn't make him sad, which means nothing
    that makes Biden, Hillary, Trudolf, Hunter, or any other leftists/Democrats look bad.

    Thanx for the heads up!!!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Thursday, May 25, 2023 17:47:00
    The failure of congress to raise the debt ceiling and pay the debt is
    oing
    to be much harder on the economy.

    That we might do worse in the future still does not mean we are doing well *now*.

    The US economy is not doing badly under Biden.

    You have the same challenges as always but the economy is not doing badly.

    If congress fails to increase the debt ceiling that will tank the economy.

    Highest rate of companies going bankrupt since the 2008 Recession is not
    "not doing badly," nor is it "same challenges as always." It is an
    indicator that we might be in another recession, or heading for one.

    I see you cut my mention of said bankrupcy rate out of your qoutes above.

    If congress fails to increase the debt ceiling, my first question will be
    why was the Biden administration giving tons of money to a foreign country,
    and why, in the middle of this debt ceiling crisis, did the administration
    also give them planes?

    If we are so bad in debt that we have to increase the ceiling (again!),
    where does all the free money and planes for Ukraine come from?

    Meanwhile, El Salvador's VP has come forward with a plan he says will fix problems in both of our countries that lead to illegal immigration into
    ours. Our VP, and Biden appointed Border Czar, has ignored him, presumably because his plan would cost money.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Thursday, May 25, 2023 17:17:00
    I believe it is a lie. Comer and Jordan are beyond comedy but I'll have a >> look and see what this is about.

    So you called it a lie without knowing anything about it?

    It was/is a lie. Where is this document?

    You cut the part out of your quote where you admitted you had not heard anything about it, then turned around and said it was a lie.

    Is everything you've never heard of a lie?

    I don't know where the document is as I was not the one who brought it up,
    just like I was not the one of the two of us to call it a "lie" without
    ever hearing about it.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Thursday, May 25, 2023 17:24:00
    Adam schiff never held the economy hostage. If Keven McCarthy doesn't change

    rse he (and his GOP supporters) are going to tank the economy.

    It'll be an American first.

    Just to be sure I understand... it is one side's fault for not wanting to
    go along with it because they want cuts, but NOT the other sides fault if
    they will not agree to ANY cuts?

    Does it matter which side is which? For you, I am sure it does.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Thursday, May 25, 2023 17:25:00
    So you called it a lie without knowing anything about it?

    You and Adam Schiff would make a good team.

    The difference between Adam Schiff and Alan is that Adam **knows** he is
    ying

    And I think you are giving Alan too much credit... or maybe I am for
    thinking no one could be that dumb.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Thursday, May 25, 2023 17:49:00
    Congress is, or has, tabled a $16,000.000.00 sanction against Schift...
    ven
    if he does get booted out be said he's running for senate in 2024... He'll more than likely get the seat because of his loyalty the Deep State.

    Who tabled that? I haven't heard of this though it sounds like a MTG stunt.

    Good luck with that!

    It is not a MTG stunt. The sanction, as well as removal, have been
    introduced by a Congresswoman from Florida named Luna.

    like... stop leaving $80 BILLION dollars in military equipment to our
    nemy,
    ISIS.

    This is another lie. The military did not leave 80 billion dollars in
    ilitary
    quipment to your enemy, ISIS. I don't care what Steve Bannon or MTG said.

    They did leave plenty of equipment. That was all over the news, including
    CNN and MSNBC, at the time of the botched pull-out. I cannot say it was $80 billion USD worth, but military equipment is expensive and they left behind
    a whole bunch so I would not be surprised.

    This is not about printing money, it is about paying the debt that congress
    a
    already spent.

    Maybe they should stop spending so much so they don't reach the ceiling and then we don't have to go through this nonsense.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thursday, May 25, 2023 17:40:00
    Recent history... recall back in the day when the Democrats lowered the
    hres
    ld for 60 to simple majority to cram through some Obama appointees...
    emember
    and what did we say then... don't do it because someday you won't be in
    owe
    and you might regret it.... and then you changed the rules to appoint federal

    In this case, the "you" in question did not change the rules. Alan is a left-leaner, for sure, but he is not a registered (American) Democrat
    because he is Canadian. He likes to complain about US politics and US Republicans but any attempt to engage him in discussions about the politics
    of his own country will usually be ignored or deflected.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thursday, May 25, 2023 17:51:23
    On 25 May 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    In this case, the "you" in question did not change the rules. Alan is a left-leaner, for sure, but he is not a registered (American) Democrat because he is Canadian. He likes to complain about US politics and US Republicans but any attempt to engage him in discussions about the politics of his own country will usually be ignored or deflected.


    Alan Dershowitz is a constitutional law professor born in New York. Though
    a life long democrat, voted for Biden, was part of one of Trump's impeachments lawyers, he spoke on the constitutionality of the current impeachment. He still claims to be a Democrat.

    Had the Democrats not made those rule changes back in the day. It would not have lead the republicans making similar changes, AKA "The Nuclear Option", during Trump's presidency to place 3 constitutional justices in the supreme court... All the babies that Trump saved being in office will be felt for years to come.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 03:05:48
    Highest rate of companies going bankrupt since the 2008 Recession is not
    "not doing badly," nor is it "same challenges as always." It is an
    indicator that we might be in another recession, or heading for one.

    Things are tough all over. This is not a crisis that Joe Biden created.

    I see you cut my mention of said bankrupcy rate out of your qoutes above.

    This is your talking point, not mine.

    You can post some more if you want but I am not going to partake.

    If congress fails to increase the debt ceiling, my first question will be
    why was the Biden administration giving tons of money to a foreign country, and why, in the middle of this debt ceiling crisis, did the administration also give them planes?

    All good questions, debateable.

    There is no debt ceiling crisis. The bills have arrived and they need to be paid.

    If we are so bad in debt that we have to increase the ceiling (again!),

    I never said you were so bad in debt. The bills have arrived and the GOP doesn't want to pay it.

    where does all the free money and planes for Ukraine come from?

    This is not about the debt ceiling.

    Meanwhile, El Salvador's VP has come forward with a plan he says will fix problems in both of our countries that lead to illegal immigration into
    ours. Our VP, and Biden appointed Border Czar, has ignored him, presumably because his plan would cost money.

    This also is not about the debt ceiling.

    I suppose the border Czar may need to get money for this if they want to take it forward. Is this something congress would like to do?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 03:10:18
    I believe it is a lie. Comer and Jordan are beyond comedy but I'll have a >> >> look and see what this is about.

    So you called it a lie without knowing anything about it?

    It was/is a lie. Where is this document?

    You cut the part out of your quote where you admitted you had not heard anything about it, then turned around and said it was a lie.

    I still have not heard about it but you keep bringing it up.

    It is just another lie.

    Where is this document?

    Is everything you've never heard of a lie?

    Jordan and Comer are both liars.

    I don't know where the document is as I was not the one who brought it up, just like I was not the one of the two of us to call it a "lie" without
    ever hearing about it.

    You keep talking about a document that doesn't seem to exist.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 03:20:54
    It'll be an American first.

    Just to be sure I understand... it is one side's fault for not wanting to
    go along with it because they want cuts, but NOT the other sides fault if they will not agree to ANY cuts?

    This is not about sides. This money has already been spent, the bills have arrived and it's due now.

    Does it matter which side is which? For you, I am sure it does.

    Does America only pay it's bills if the Democarts are in power?

    Does America only pay it's bills if the Republicans are in power?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 03:24:06
    Maybe they should stop spending so much so they don't reach the ceiling and then we don't have to go through this nonsense.

    Who is they?

    This is old debt that simply needs to be paid.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 07:26:21
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    You and Adam Schiff would make a good team.

    The difference between Adam Schiff and Alan is that Adam **knows** he is lying

    And I think you are giving Alan too much credit... or maybe I am for thinking no one could be that dumb.

    The Ignorant Elitists willfully ignore any facts that counter their Narrative. So, ya, he could be that dumb.

    I like to think that, deep inside, he knows that he is wrong. But since people like Alan can never admit that, least of all to themselves, they will always come across as dumb.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Friday, May 26, 2023 07:26:21
    IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    The constitution is clear who sets the bar on debt and budget...

    But the Elitists don't belive that the Constitution restrains them. They think that they above all that.

    Keep it up!!!! Someday you won't be in power...

    And it's already happening.

    The problem is that we are not in a fight between the good guys and the bad guys. We are in a fight between a bunch of groups who believe that they are fit to rule over us all. And we, the people, are caught in the middle.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Friday, May 26, 2023 08:57:12
    On 26 May 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    The constitution is clear who sets the bar on debt and budget...

    But the Elitists don't belive that the Constitution restrains them.
    They think that they above all that.


    This was why the constitution was written in the way it was... to restrain the ones in power and give it to the people.


    The problem is that we are not in a fight between the good guys and the bad guys. We are in a fight between a bunch of groups who believe that they are fit to rule over us all. And we, the people, are caught in the middle.


    This is right... I know that my Youtube feed's algorithm my be sending me stuff I want to see... But it does look that some of the people who voted for the Democrats in the past are waking, not woke, waking up and are buying the brand of bull shit any longer.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Friday, May 26, 2023 10:25:00
    I see you cut my mention of said bankrupcy rate out of your qoutes above.

    This is your talking point, not mine.

    You can post some more if you want but I am not going to partake.

    Things are tough all over. This is not a crisis that Joe Biden created.

    It wouldn't be your talking point because you don't like facts, especially
    ones quote from the news that paint the current administration in a bad
    light. You also don't like facts because they have to be ignored in order to say "The US is doing well" under Biden.

    It is a good talking point because the point in history it references back
    to is the 2008 Recession, you know, back when we were all told it was 100%
    the (Republican) President's fault.

    There is also daily mainstream media news about tent cities springing up in urban areas all over the country. Locally, Louisville has had issues,
    going through and moving these homeless encampments out of one area just to have them show up somewhere else. In places like Portland (near you), and San Fransiso, the issue is much worse.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Friday, May 26, 2023 09:25:00
    I believe it is a lie. Comer and Jordan are beyond comedy but I'll have >> >> look and see what this is about.

    So you called it a lie without knowing anything about it?

    It was/is a lie. Where is this document?

    You cut the part out of your quote where you admitted you had not heard anything about it, then turned around and said it was a lie.

    I still have not heard about it but you keep bringing it up.

    It is just another lie.

    I am not the one who brought it up. I brought up that you called something
    a lie immediately after admitting you knew nothing about it just because
    you don't like the source.

    Then you want someone else to disprove something you called a "lie" that
    you admitted you know nothing about.

    And you have done it again right above.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Friday, May 26, 2023 10:07:00
    Just to be sure I understand... it is one side's fault for not wanting to go along with it because they want cuts, but NOT the other sides fault if they will not agree to ANY cuts?

    This is not about sides. This money has already been spent, the bills have
    rr
    ed and it's due now.

    Again, why did they spend money they didn't have?

    Why is it an illegitimate request to ask for future spending to be cut
    before raising a debt ceiling to pay for bills with money they don't have (hence, "hitting the debt ceiling")?


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 12:17:40
    You can post some more if you want but I am not going to partake.

    Things are tough all over. This is not a crisis that Joe Biden created.

    It wouldn't be your talking point because you don't like facts, especially ones quote from the news that paint the current administration in a bad light. You also don't like facts because they have to be ignored in order to say "The US is doing well" under Biden.

    Things are tough all over with inflation caused largely by covid and the war in Ukraine.

    Neither of those things were caused by Biden.

    There is also daily mainstream media news about tent cities springing up in urban areas all over the country. Locally, Louisville has had issues,
    going through and moving these homeless encampments out of one area just to have them show up somewhere else. In places like Portland (near you), and San Fransiso, the issue is much worse.

    Homelessness is an issue, it's not new or something that Biden caused.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 12:19:36
    Then you want someone else to disprove something you called a "lie" that
    you admitted you know nothing about.

    I never asked anyone for proof. I simply stated it was a lie. It was.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Friday, May 26, 2023 12:30:16
    This is not about sides. This money has already been spent, the bills have >> arrived and it's due now.

    Again, why did they spend money they didn't have?

    That's what govt's do. The collect revenue and they spend it on the nations interests.

    At the end of the month the bills arrive and they need to be paid.

    Why is it an illegitimate request to ask for future spending to be cut
    before raising a debt ceiling to pay for bills with money they don't have (hence, "hitting the debt ceiling")?

    Congress is free to decide how they spend and on what. They do that all the time, as they should. When the bills arrive they need to be paid if you care about the credit rating, 401k's and such.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron L. on Saturday, May 27, 2023 02:35:20
    Hello Ron,

    The constitution is clear who sets the bar on debt and budget...

    But the Elitists don't belive that the Constitution restrains them. They think that they above all that.

    The "validity of the public debt" of the US "authorized by law ...
    shall not be questioned." ~XIV Amendment, Section 4

    'Nuff said.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Monday, May 29, 2023 09:44:00
    You can post some more if you want but I am not going to partake.

    Things are tough all over. This is not a crisis that Joe Biden created.

    It wouldn't be your talking point because you don't like facts, especially ones quote from the news that paint the current administration in a bad light. You also don't like facts because they have to be ignored in order to
    say "The US is doing well" under Biden.

    Things are tough all over with inflation caused largely by covid and the war i
    Ukraine.

    Neither of those things were caused by Biden.

    (1) the inflation rate has been higher in the USA than in other "advanced" countries
    (2) it would not be as bad if we were not involved in supporting Ukraine financially, which is something that the other "advanced" countries with
    lower inflation rates are not doing, or not doing to the extent that we are because, unlike those other countries, the USA is fighting a proxy war with Russia
    (3) we are experiencing additional financial issues because the current administration decided to move us off the path of energy independence and
    back onto the path of dependence

    Homelessness is an issue, it's not new or something that Biden caused.

    It is not new but is worse now than it has been in recent past.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Monday, May 29, 2023 09:45:00
    Then you want someone else to disprove something you called a "lie" that you admitted you know nothing about.

    I never asked anyone for proof. I simply stated it was a lie. It was.

    That has not been proven. The only proof you offer that it is a lie is "I
    said so" which holds zero weight with me.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Monday, May 29, 2023 10:13:00
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyyKM9WMQiw&list=WL&index=2&t=293s

    Sponsored by Mike (the pillow guy) Lindell.

    That explains why it's not in the news!

    It has made our local TV news.

    If you do a simple DuckDuckGo search, on "Luna Schiff," you will very easily find severl references to this. Here is one from The Floridian in Luna's
    home state:

    https://floridianpress.com/2023/05/luna-seeks-fine-adam-schiff-16-million-russia
    -hoax/

    https://tinyurl.com/mr2ewm7h

    "The Durham report refuted the narrative of former President Donald Trump colluding with Russia to win the 2016 Election for good. Now, Representative Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) seeks to charge former House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-CA) a $16 million fine for continuing to propagate the narrative.

    "Why $16 million? Rep. Luna stated this was approximately half the cost of the federal investigation, therefore suggesting Rep. Schiff owes much culpability in pushing the Trump-Russia collusion story."


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Monday, May 29, 2023 10:16:00
    It's important to know that this is not news, it's sponsored (engineered) by M
    e (the pillow guy) Lindell.

    That particular link may have been, but it can be found in several places.
    A representative from Florida has indeed introduced a bill to fine Schiff, and another to expel him. They likely won't make it through Congress, but it
    is not a lie that both have been introduced and both will likely be
    discussed.

    I posted a link for you in a previous message, and also told you how to
    search for it yourself.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Monday, May 29, 2023 11:27:22
    Things are tough all over with inflation caused largely by covid and the war >> in Ukraine.

    Neither of those things were caused by Biden.

    (1) the inflation rate has been higher in the USA than in other "advanced" countries

    There is a constant fight against inflation.

    (2) it would not be as bad if we were not involved in supporting Ukraine financially, which is something that the other "advanced" countries with lower inflation rates are not doing, or not doing to the extent that we are because, unlike those other countries, the USA is fighting a proxy war with Russia

    You are not in a war currently, not even a proxy war. The US is not fighting a war against Russia since the US has not been invaded. I hope that doesn't change.

    Ukraine has been invaded and is fighting a war against Russia. The US supports Ukraine and is an ally along with most Nato and many other countries but is not involved in the fighting.

    This is likely a factor in inflation.

    (3) we are experiencing additional financial issues because the current administration decided to move us off the path of energy independence and back onto the path of dependence

    How are you less energy independent now, under Biden?

    Homelessness is an issue, it's not new or something that Biden caused.

    It is not new but is worse now than it has been in recent past.

    The homeless issue is an old one, it happens here too. Some choose to be homeless and others are homeless by circumstance. The old guard hasn't been able to make a dent in it. I hope there is some new blood coming up that can work toward a solution.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Monday, May 29, 2023 11:43:00
    That explains why it's not in the news!

    It has made our local TV news.

    I've seen it from the link IB provided.

    I still haven't seen it on the news.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Monday, May 29, 2023 11:43:40
    I posted a link for you in a previous message, and also told you how to search for it yourself.

    Yeah, thanks!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 02:18:35
    The entity known as Mike Powell was overheard to utter these
    words of nonsense to a genius from Canada who needs no lecture -

    Neither of those things were caused by Biden.

    (1) the inflation rate has been higher in the USA than in other "advanced" countries

    Completely false, no explanation needed as the facts speak for
    themselves.

    (2) it would not be as bad if we were not involved in supporting Ukraine financially, which is something that the other "advanced" countries with lower inflation rates are not doing, or not doing to the extent that we are
    because, unlike those other countries, the USA is fighting a proxy war with
    Russia

    Another false claim, as many countries are involved in supporting
    Ukraine - both financially and militarily. This is not a "proxy" war
    between Russia and the USA, but a real war between Russia and Ukraine.
    Using real guns and missiles and other arms of warfare. Along with
    real soldiers from each country.

    (3) we are experiencing additional financial issues because the current administration decided to move us off the path of energy independence and back onto the path of dependence

    Total nonsense. The total cost of helping Ukraine defend itself is
    minimal relative to the total economy of the USA.

    Homelessness is an issue, it's not new or something that Biden caused.

    It is not new but is worse now than it has been in recent past.

    With full employment and higher wages there is less homelessness,
    not more.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 02:18:52
    Sponsored by Mike (the pillow guy) Lindell.

    That explains why it's not in the news!

    It has made our local TV news.

    Who the fuck cares?

    If you do a simple DuckDuckGo search, on "Luna Schiff," you will very easily
    find severl references to this. Here is one from The Floridian in Luna's home state:

    It doesn't take much of a search to find nonsense on the internet.

    https://floridianpress.com/2023/05/luna-seeks-fine-adam-schiff-16-million-russia
    -hoax/

    https://tinyurl.com/mr2ewm7h

    "The Durham report refuted the narrative of former President Donald Trump colluding with Russia to win the 2016 Election for good.

    That is a false claim. Whether Mike P. realizes or not, such claims
    based on thin air do not make it true. But he does retain the right
    to keep trying. No matter how futile.

    Now, Representative Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) seeks to charge former House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-CA) a $16 million fine for continuing to propagate the narrative.

    With no evidence to back up her outlandish claims, it is all talk and
    no action. Kind of like the loons who chant "Lock her up" in regards
    to Hillary Clinton).

    So keep trying, Mike P. We all enjoy your rants.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 15:23:00
    Neither of those things were caused by Biden.

    (1) the inflation rate has been higher in the USA than in other "advanced" countries

    There is a constant fight against inflation.

    Indeed, but it becomes noteworthy when it takes off like it did.

    (2) it would not be as bad if we were not involved in supporting Ukraine financially, which is something that the other "advanced" countries with lower inflation rates are not doing, or not doing to the extent that we are because, unlike those other countries, the USA is fighting a proxy war with Russia

    You are not in a war currently, not even a proxy war. The US is not fighting

    ar against Russia since the US has not been invaded. I hope that doesn't
    hang

    Ukraine has been invaded and is fighting a war against Russia. The US
    upports
    kraine and is an ally along with most Nato and many other countries but is
    ot
    nvolved in the fighting.

    This is likely a factor in inflation.

    You need to look up the definition of "proxy war." Also, Biden has blamed inflation on that war, but it started before that war.

    The old guard hasn't been able to mak
    e a dent in it. I hope there is some new blood coming up that can work toward solution.

    I cannot disagree with this statement regarding homelessness, and it could probably be applied to other issues as well.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, May 30, 2023 15:24:16
    You need to look up the definition of "proxy war." Also, Biden has blamed inflation on that war, but it started before that war.

    I know what a proxy war is and that is not what is happening.

    Ukraine has been invaded and Russia contunues it's attacks.

    The USA is not fighting this war. They do provide aid but they are not fighting a war, proxy or otherwise.

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