• Prisoner Swap

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Friday, December 09, 2022 02:38:21
    According to the media, the Biden regime negotiated a prisoner swap which took place today. As promised, the regime released convicted arms dealer Viktor
    Bout (who was charged with conspiring to kill Americans) in exchange for Russia's release of anthem-kneeling WNBA star Britney Griner, who unlawfully took drugs to Russia.

    Left out of the deal was Paul Whelan, a retired US marine, who's been held prisoner in Russia since 2018. Apparently the Biden regime attempted to get both Whelan & Griner released in exchange for Bout, but Russian officials forced the Biden regime to choose just one, so they chose to free the anthem-kneeler rather than the US marine veteran. It's more PC.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Friday, December 09, 2022 15:31:00
    According to the media, the Biden regime negotiated a prisoner swap which took
    place today. As promised, the regime released convicted arms dealer Viktor Bout (who was charged with conspiring to kill Americans) in exchange for Russia's release of anthem-kneeling WNBA star Britney Griner, who unlawfully took drugs to Russia.

    Left out of the deal was Paul Whelan, a retired US marine, who's been held prisoner in Russia since 2018. Apparently the Biden regime attempted to get both Whelan & Griner released in exchange for Bout, but Russian officials forced the Biden regime to choose just one, so they chose to free the anthem-kneeler rather than the US marine veteran. It's more PC.

    Regardless of what one thinks about Griner, trading her for an arms dealer
    with a long rap sheet is pretty iffy. But Biden wants the left to be his friend and the left loves Griner so...


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Friday, December 09, 2022 21:04:30
    Regardless of what one thinks about Griner, trading her for an arms
    dealer with a long rap sheet is pretty iffy. But Biden wants the left
    to be his friend and the left loves Griner so...

    It's not a fair trade, that's for sure.

    The Biden Regime has taught us a few things with their prisoner swap:
    1) Elites are more valuable than military vets
    2) Elites can break the laws in other countries, and we'll bring them home
    3) Elites ain't scared of Viktor Bout

    Now let's see if the media summarizes it the same way I just did..

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, December 10, 2022 10:34:00
    Regardless of what one thinks about Griner, trading her for an arms dealer with a long rap sheet is pretty iffy. But Biden wants the left to be his friend and the left loves Griner so...

    It's not a fair trade, that's for sure.

    For sure.

    The Biden Regime has taught us a few things with their prisoner swap:
    1) Elites are more valuable than military vets

    Unfortunately they are. Elites bring D's more votes than veterans do.

    2) Elites can break the laws in other countries, and we'll bring them home

    Yes.

    3) Elites ain't scared of Viktor Bout

    Maybe they are the ones colluding with Russians?

    Now let's see if the media summarizes it the same way I just did..

    Some of them have been skeptical, but not quite this cynical about it.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, December 10, 2022 18:35:14
    Hello Aaron,

    According to the media, the Biden regime negotiated a prisoner swap which took place today.

    The Biden administration successfully negotiated a prisoner release
    from Russia, with a US citizen landing in San Antonio, Texas. That is
    good news for her, as well as her family and loved ones. And also for
    all Americans, many who prayed for her release.

    As promised, the regime released convicted arms dealer Viktor Bout (who was
    charged with conspiring to kill Americans) in exchange for
    Russia's release of anthem-kneeling WNBA star Britney Griner, who unlawfully
    took drugs to Russia.

    President Joe Biden and his administration should be thanked for all
    they have done to obtain the release of a US citizen who was convicted
    and sentenced for a trivial offense.

    The Russian president should be condemned for his actions, picking
    on a lesbian black basketball player to vent his frustrations on rather
    than putting real criminals behind bars.

    Left out of the deal was Paul Whelan, a retired US marine, who's been held prisoner in Russia since 2018.

    That shows how despicable a person Vladimir Putin is. Whelan was
    wrongfully accused and convicted, for a crime that did not happen.
    There was never any reason as to why Putin would want to keep him
    in Russia, other than his own ego.

    Apparently the Biden regime attempted to get both Whelan & Griner released

    It should be obvious to all that President Biden and his administration
    have done, and are doing everything possible to obtain the release of
    all Americans who have been wrongfully accused and convicted, no matter
    where they are in the world.

    in exchange for Bout,

    Were you involved in the negotations to obtain the release of Griner
    and Whelan? And what about others who are being held? You do realize
    Americans travel to many different countries in the world ...

    but Russian officials forced the Biden regime to choose just one,

    Russian officials are yes men for Vladimir Putin. They do what their
    boss wants, or tells them to do. I call them lackeys. Which is exactly
    what they are.

    so they chose to free the anthem-kneeler rather than the US marine veteran.
    It's more PC.

    Ronald Reagan said he would never negoatiate with terrorists.
    But he did trade arms for hostages (Iran-Contra).
    What would you have Joe Biden do to obtain the release of US citizens
    from a madman who controls Russia?

    I suppose Aaron would hire Ollie North to negoatiate with the bastard.
    Just like Ronnie Rayguns.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Saturday, December 10, 2022 17:05:13
    3) Elites ain't scared of Viktor Bout

    Maybe they are the ones colluding with Russians?

    It's only logical to wonder about that. Obama said he is "grateful for Britney's return." Someone should ask him if he's also grateful for Viktor Bout's return.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, December 10, 2022 21:20:23
    President Joe Biden and his administration should be thanked for all
    they have done to obtain the release of a US citizen who was convicted
    and sentenced for a trivial offense.

    It's not a trivial offense.

    There are more than 32,000 American prisoners in American correctional facilities (currently) for marijuana crimes. But 0 of them are elites.

    https://www.lastprisonerproject.org/

    Mark Fogel is a caucasian American school teacher who is currently serving a
    14 year sentence in a Russian prison for marijuana posession. What's the status of his release? Does anyone give a flying one?

    The Russian president should be condemned for his actions, picking
    on a lesbian black basketball player to vent his frustrations on rather than putting real criminals behind bars.

    Sure, we should tell other countries how to punish their criminals and even tell them how to define their crimes.

    That shows how despicable a person Vladimir Putin is. Whelan was wrongfully accused and convicted, for a crime that did not happen.
    There was never any reason as to why Putin would want to keep him
    in Russia, other than his own ego.

    Ok, but Griner was *rightfully convicted* and she even pled guilty to the crime.

    It should be obvious to all that President Biden and his administration have done, and are doing everything possible to obtain the release of

    Yes, Biden's actions SHOULD be obvious, but the media isn't going to let their pupae escape before before they reach adult stage.

    Were you involved in the negotations to obtain the release of Griner
    and Whelan? And what about others who are being held? You do realize Americans travel to many different countries in the world ...

    No, I called in sick that day. Someone else filled in for me.

    What would you have Joe Biden do to obtain the release of US citizens
    from a madman who controls Russia?

    Nope! When Americans visit other countries, they need to learn and obey the laws, or pay the price. And I'm sure that they do just that when they don't have elite status back home in the states.

    I suppose Aaron would hire Ollie North to negoatiate with the bastard. Just like Ronnie Rayguns.

    I like Ollie. He would have opted to bring the veteran home first, since he's also a veteran, and since he's not a Soros employee.

    In order to truly build back better, we must get Britney on the next flight back to Russia.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, December 11, 2022 16:40:51
    Hello Aaron,

    President Joe Biden and his administration should be thanked for all
    they have done to obtain the release of a US citizen who was convicted
    and sentenced for a trivial offense.

    It's not a trivial offense.

    What did President Donald J. Trump do to free Paul Whelon?
    Nothing. Absolutely nothing. For three years, as Paul Whelon
    sat in a Russian jail cell, Donald J. Trump did absolutely
    nothing to even try to convince his pal Vladimir Putin to
    free Paul Whelon.

    There are more than 32,000 American prisoners in American correctional facilities (currently) for marijuana crimes. But 0 of them are elites.

    You made the claim that President Joe Biden has made no effort to
    obtain the release of Paul Whelon, who is still sitting in a Russian
    jail cell on trumped up charges.

    Brittney Griner was held in a Russian jail cell for months, then
    convicted and sentenced to 9 years at hard labor in a Russian gulag,
    on trumped up charges for what amounts to a minor offense.

    As per your cite concerning American correctional facilities -
    Most of the residents in those correctional facilities are convicted
    drug dealers. Not for mere possession of small amounts of marijuana.
    IOW, your cite is about folks who are convicted drug dealers - those
    with an intent to distribute.

    Please tell me again what your dear orange clown did for Paul Whelon
    when he pretended to act as POTUS. What did he do for Whelon in 2018?
    What did he do for Whelon in 2019? What did he do for Whelon in 2020?

    I already gave you the answer. So this should be an easy one for you.

    Mark Fogel is a caucasian American school teacher who is currently serving a
    14 year sentence in a Russian prison for marijuana posession.
    What's the status of his release? Does anyone give a flying one?

    I am sure Russian President Vladimir Putin can tell you.
    But only if he gives a shit. Which I doubt he does.

    The Russian president should be condemned for his actions, picking
    on a lesbian black basketball player to vent his frustrations on rather
    than putting real criminals behind bars.

    Sure, we should tell other countries how to punish their criminals and even
    tell them how to define their crimes.

    You are damned right! Both the USA and Russia (as the USSR) signed
    the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights. We should
    hold Russia to it!

    That shows how despicable a person Vladimir Putin is. Whelan was
    wrongfully accused and convicted, for a crime that did not happen.
    There was never any reason as to why Putin would want to keep him
    in Russia, other than his own ego.

    Ok, but Griner was *rightfully convicted* and she even pled guilty to the crime.

    The "punishment" given to Griner was not commiserate with her "crime".
    This is akin to sentencing someone to 9 years at hard labor for
    jaywalking. Even Iran got rid of its "morality police". But Russia
    still has its own - in the form of Vladimir Putin himself.

    What did Aaron T. do to protest this action? He condemned Brittney
    Griner, because she took a knee when the national anthem was being
    played just prior to a basketball game. Better for Biden to have
    done what Trump did - let her rot in a Russian gulag rather than
    bring her home.

    It should be obvious to all that President Biden and his administration
    have done, and are doing everything possible to obtain the release of

    Yes, Biden's actions SHOULD be obvious, but the media isn't going to let their pupae escape before before they reach adult stage.

    Your fascist friends in Congress will always condemn President Biden,
    no matter what he does. Even if he saves this country from doom and
    gloom. But that's okay. That is what freedom is all about. Allowing
    fascists to have their own say. No matter how wrong they are. About
    everything.

    Were you involved in the negotations to obtain the release of Griner
    and Whelan? And what about others who are being held? You do realize
    Americans travel to many different countries in the world ...

    No, I called in sick that day. Someone else filled in for me.

    Was Donald J. Trump sick for three whole years as Paul Whelon sat
    in a Russian jail cell? Could that explain why Trump chose to do
    nothing, absolutely nothing, to obtain his release? After all, he
    did find time to meet with Vladimir Putin. Live, in person. In
    Helsinki. But nobody else was allowed inside the room as they
    held their discussions. Presumably in Russian.

    What would you have Joe Biden do to obtain the release of US citizens
    from a madman who controls Russia?

    Nope! When Americans visit other countries, they need to learn and obey the
    laws, or pay the price. And I'm sure that they do just that when they don't
    have elite status back home in the states.

    Other WNBA players continue to play basketball in countries outside
    the USA. But not Brittney Griner. She is taking time off from the tour
    to be with family. And relatives. And friends. And saying thank you to President Joe Biden.

    I suppose Aaron would hire Ollie North to negoatiate with the bastard.
    Just like Ronnie Rayguns.

    I like Ollie.

    Ollie was "just following orders" from his boss in that Iran-Contra
    affair. But just as guilty as Ronnie Rayguns, who ordered him to do it.
    Too bad George H.W. Bush never granted him a pardon. Not that it would
    have done him any good, given his advanced age and alzheimer's.

    Anyway, after testifying before Congress by telling them the same
    thing he had told everybody else (I was just following orders), Ollie
    decided he wanted to become a US Senator himself. So he ran for the
    office, and lost his shirt.

    In which case he moved on. To become a contributor to FoxNews.

    He would have opted to bring the veteran home first, since he's
    also a veteran, and since he's not a Soros employee.

    Ollie did nothing of the sort. After losing his own bid for public
    office, he became a contributor for FoxNews. And then lost interest
    completely, moving on to total oblivion.

    In order to truly build back better, we must get Britney on the next flight
    back to Russia.

    Her world is basketball. Not politics of any kind. Yes, she did take
    a knee. For justice. As should we all. You got a problem with that?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, December 12, 2022 02:25:37
    Brittney Griner was held in a Russian jail cell for months, then
    convicted and sentenced to 9 years at hard labor in a Russian gulag,
    on trumped up charges for what amounts to a minor offense.

    Shrooms are legal in Denver, but can get you 15 years in NYC. Does that mean that tourists from Denver should get away with shroom possession in NYC? Only under idiotic leftist logic!

    As per your cite concerning American correctional facilities -
    Most of the residents in those correctional facilities are convicted
    drug dealers. Not for mere possession of small amounts of marijuana.

    Like Britney, I too have a medical marijuana card. But unlike Britney, I know that a piece of plastic issued by NY doesn't give me the right to take weed to other countries. I can't even take it to Pennsylvania without breaking the law.

    Mark Fogel is a caucasian American school teacher who is currently se a
    14 year sentence in a Russian prison for marijuana posession.
    What's the status of his release? Does anyone give a flying one?

    I am sure Russian President Vladimir Putin can tell you.
    But only if he gives a shit. Which I doubt he does.

    No I'm sure that Putin doesn't care about Mark Fogel, because Fogel's not an elite, so therefore he's not tradable for an illicit arms dealer.

    You are damned right! Both the USA and Russia (as the USSR) signed
    the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights. We should
    hold Russia to it!

    There's no clause for excusing Americans for crimes committed in Russia. Britney's sentence was handed to her in accordance to Russian law. They
    weren't "picking on her." Homosexuality is legal in Russia. She wasn't abused while in custody (or else we'd have heard about it.)

    The "punishment" given to Griner was not commiserate with her "crime".

    From Wikipedia:

    "Possession of up to 6 g is considered an administrative crime, whereas more than 7 g is considered a serious criminal offense, as regulated by Russian criminal code article 228."

    Britney took approximately 1 gram of hash to Russia, and it takes about 10 grams of bud to make 1 gram of hash, so she's over the limit for "15 days in jail."

    Your fascist friends in Congress will always condemn President Biden,
    no matter what he does. Even if he saves this country from doom and
    gloom. But that's okay. That is what freedom is all about. Allowing

    Congress members are swamp monsters. The day that Joe does something positive for this country, I'll commend him for it. So far, he's a thief, a liar, and a coward, but sometimes bad people turn their lives around.

    He would have opted to bring the veteran home first, since he's
    also a veteran, and since he's not a Soros employee.

    Ollie did nothing of the sort. After losing his own bid for public

    He has never had the power to negotiate int'l prisoner swapping.

    Her world is basketball. Not politics of any kind. Yes, she did take
    a knee. For justice. As should we all. You got a problem with that?

    You take 2 knees for Biden every day. I don't have a problem with that. That sort of thing is legal here. I like when people obey laws; I'm a conservative.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 22:38:10
    Hello Aaron,

    Brittney Griner was held in a Russian jail cell for months, then
    convicted and sentenced to 9 years at hard labor in a Russian gulag,
    on trumped up charges for what amounts to a minor offense.

    Shrooms are legal in Denver, but can get you 15 years in NYC. Does that mean
    that tourists from Denver should get away with shroom possession in NYC? Only under idiotic leftist logic!

    Drug dealing is not legal anywhere in the world. Not even in
    Afghanistan. And you are saying, or suggesting, that people who
    are convicted of minor offenses in the USA can be sentenced and
    convicted in this country as if they were guilty of having
    committed heinous crimes? If so, your thinking is truly warped.

    As per your cite concerning American correctional facilities -
    Most of the residents in those correctional facilities are convicted
    drug dealers. Not for mere possession of small amounts of marijuana.

    Like Britney, I too have a medical marijuana card.

    Griner was convincted and sentenced for having committed a minor
    offense. She should have been fined and released, or fined and
    sentenced to no more than a few days in jail, then released. And
    yet she was tried in a kangaroo court, on trumped up charges,
    sentenced and convicted of a minor offense, and sent away to
    spend 9 years at hard labor in a Russian gulag. All because she
    is a lesbian, and an American.

    But unlike Britney, I know that a piece of plastic issued by NY doesn't give
    me the right to take weed to other countries. I can't even take it to Pennsylvania without breaking the law.

    Vladimir Putin did not give a rat's cccktail about the law of any
    kind. Not Russian law, US law, New York law, or law of any other kind.
    All Vladimir Putin wanted was his arms dealer pal who was convicted
    and sentenced to 25 years at hard labor in the US to be sent back
    to Russia. That's what this whole thing was about.

    Mark Fogel is a caucasian American school teacher who is
    currently se
    a
    14 year sentence in a Russian prison for marijuana posession.
    What's the status of his release? Does anyone give a flying one?

    I am sure Russian President Vladimir Putin can tell you.
    But only if he gives a shit. Which I doubt he does.

    No I'm sure that Putin doesn't care about Mark Fogel, because Fogel's not an
    elite, so therefore he's not tradable for an illicit arms dealer.

    We all know Donald Trump did not give a fuck about Paul Whelon.
    Trump let Whelon rot in a Russian jail for three years, doing nothing
    to help get him out, while he was prez. Whelon was falsely accused,
    and then sentenced and convicted, in a Russian kangaroo court. Why
    did Trump choose to do nothing on his behalf? Why did your fine
    president choose to suck Putin's dick for so long, pretending that
    Putin is his friend? Or maybe Trump wasn't pretending ...

    You are damned right! Both the USA and Russia (as the USSR) signed
    the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights. We should
    hold Russia to it!

    There's no clause for excusing Americans for crimes committed in Russia.

    Iran also has a habit of making false accusations, then sentencing
    those convicted to harsh penalties - such as death by stoning. In
    Saudi Arabia those convicted can literally have their heads chopped
    off.

    So maybe Griner was lucky. I mean, Putin could have reinstated the
    death penalty in Russia and done what Iran does to lesbians ...

    Britney's sentence was handed to her in accordance to Russian law.

    Putin's law. There is a difference.

    They weren't "picking on her."

    Griner is a lesbian.
    Griner is also an American.
    She was clearly targeted.
    By Putin himself.

    Homosexuality is legal in Russia.

    I wouldn't know.
    And I wouldn't want to find out, either.

    She wasn't abused while in custody (or else we'd have heard about it.)

    How do you know? Were you there? Spending time in a Russian gulag?
    Having your braids chopped off by other inmates (or prison guards)?
    Please tell us what it was really like, during your confinement.

    The "punishment" given to Griner was not commiserate with her "crime".

    From Wikipedia:

    "Possession of up to 6 g is considered an administrative crime, whereas more
    than 7 g is considered a serious criminal offense, as regulated by Russian criminal code article 228."

    Britney took approximately 1 gram of hash to Russia, and it takes about 10 grams of bud to make 1 gram of hash, so she's over the limit for "15 days in
    jail."

    Griner was guilty of whatever the fuck Putin said she was guilty of.
    And she was sentenced and convicted in due accordance to Putin's wishes.
    That is all that counts. Regardless of what your beloved Wikipedia had
    to say.

    Your fascist friends in Congress will always condemn President Biden,
    no matter what he does. Even if he saves this country from doom and
    gloom. But that's okay. That is what freedom is all about. Allowing

    Congress members are swamp monsters.

    Thank god it was the Biden administration that negotiated for the
    release of Brittney Griner. Otherwise, she was still be sitting in
    a Russian gulag (or in some unmarked grave).

    The day that Joe does something positive for this country, I'll commend him
    for it.

    Brittney Griner, her spouse, her family, her relatives, her friends,
    the entire country, are commending Joe Biden for having successfully
    brought her home from Russia. Time for you to do the same.

    So far, he's a thief, a liar, and a coward, but sometimes bad people turn their lives around.

    When did your hero, Donald Trump, ever do anything positive for
    former Marine Paul Whelon?

    He would have opted to bring the veteran home first, since he's
    also a veteran, and since he's not a Soros employee.

    Ollie did nothing of the sort. After losing his own bid for public

    He has never had the power to negotiate int'l prisoner swapping.

    President Ronald Reagan gave him the power to negoatiate with
    terrorists. Ollie North testified before the Congress, and told
    them he was "only following orders" from his boss ...

    Imagine that. Trading arms for hostages. On orders from his boss,
    Ronald Reagan. What a guy.

    Her world is basketball. Not politics of any kind. Yes, she did take
    a knee. For justice. As should we all. You got a problem with that?

    You take 2 knees for Biden every day.

    We should all do like Griner, protest for justice wherever we find
    it necessary. Not limited to police brutality or any other single
    issue. And certainly not limited to whoever the fuck happens to be
    POTUS at any given time.

    I don't have a problem with that.

    Yes, you do. Otherwise, you would not have made the absurd comment
    "You take 2 knnes for Biden every day."

    That sort of thing is legal here.

    Yes, it is legal for you to be stupid here.
    I can also be stupid.
    As well as anybody else.
    But that does not mean I have to be stupid.

    I like when people obey laws; I'm a conservative.

    That is a contradiction in terms.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, December 14, 2022 02:23:27
    Drug dealing is not legal anywhere in the world. Not even in
    Afghanistan. And you are saying, or suggesting, that people who
    are convicted of minor offenses in the USA can be sentenced and
    convicted in this country as if they were guilty of having
    committed heinous crimes? If so, your thinking is truly warped.

    Yes sir, she could have been bunking with murderers, right here in what's left of the USA.

    spend 9 years at hard labor in a Russian gulag. All because she
    is a lesbian, and an American.

    Anything is "hard labor" when you're accustomed to smoking hash all day and playing basketball all night.

    Vladimir Putin did not give a rat's cccktail about the law of any

    Putin isn't a magistrate court judge; he's actually the president of Russia.

    We all know Donald Trump did not give a fuck about Paul Whelon.
    Trump let Whelon rot in a Russian jail for three years, doing nothing
    to help get him out, while he was prez. Whelon was falsely accused,

    Trump said he "refused to trade Viktor Bout for Paul Whelen." He made a good choice. Paul Whelan's not worth that much trouble.

    did Trump choose to do nothing on his behalf? Why did your fine
    president choose to suck Putin's dick for so long, pretending that

    What did Trump do for Putin? Acknowledge him? BFD!!

    Iran also has a habit of making false accusations, then sentencing
    those convicted to harsh penalties - such as death by stoning. In
    Saudi Arabia those convicted can literally have their heads chopped
    off.

    So would it be smart for us to go to these countries and F around as if we
    were in San Diego?

    She wasn't abused while in custody (or else we'd have heard about it.

    How do you know? Were you there? Spending time in a Russian gulag?
    Having your braids chopped off by other inmates (or prison guards)?
    Please tell us what it was really like, during your confinement.

    So if there's no obvious signs of human rights treaty violations, then we should just assume that there were human rights treaty violations??

    Griner was guilty of whatever the fuck Putin said she was guilty of.
    And she was sentenced and convicted in due accordance to Putin's wishes. That is all that counts. Regardless of what your beloved Wikipedia had
    to say.

    You have sick fantasies about Trump, Putin, and now Griner. You need some sort of bisexual/biracial/transgender love doll.

    Thank god it was the Biden administration that negotiated for the
    release of Brittney Griner. Otherwise, she was still be sitting in
    a Russian gulag (or in some unmarked grave).

    I don't care about Britney. She should do that type of work that Kid Rock suggested Oprah do. I care more about the rest of the American people whose lives are now in danger all thanks to your idiot basketball stoner.

    Brittney Griner, her spouse, her family, her relatives, her friends,
    the entire country, are commending Joe Biden for having successfully brought her home from Russia. Time for you to do the same.

    The "entire country" isn't commending him for it. I want to send her back to Russia.

    When did your hero, Donald Trump, ever do anything positive for
    former Marine Paul Whelon?

    Whelan is dumb for visiting Russia in the first place. Why fight for American freedom if you ain't gonna stick around to enjoy it? But at least he didn't take drugs with him (he's not a COMPLETE idiot.)

    Imagine that. Trading arms for hostages. On orders from his boss,
    Ronald Reagan. What a guy.

    That sounds similar to what Biden did.

    We should all do like Griner, protest for justice wherever we find
    it necessary. Not limited to police brutality or any other single

    Gettin stoned? Count me in! Smuggling drugs into Russia? Count me out!

    Yes, you do. Otherwise, you would not have made the absurd comment
    "You take 2 knnes for Biden every day."

    That's not a reference to gay sex. It's a metaphor that describes your relationship with Biden.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, December 15, 2022 00:44:29
    Hello Aaron,

    Drug dealing is not legal anywhere in the world. Not even in
    Afghanistan. And you are saying, or suggesting, that people who
    are convicted of minor offenses in the USA can be sentenced and
    convicted in this country as if they were guilty of having
    committed heinous crimes? If so, your thinking is truly warped.

    Yes sir, she could have been bunking with murderers, right here in what's left of the USA.

    Russia is a terror state. With an autocrat who hates America and its
    people. Griner was targeted because she is a lesbian, and an American.
    Not that she had done anything horrible or despicable, but simply due
    to the fact that a Russian madman did not like her and chose to make
    an example of her. And also get something in return.

    spend 9 years at hard labor in a Russian gulag. All because she
    is a lesbian, and an American.

    Anything is "hard labor" when you're accustomed to smoking hash all day and
    playing basketball all night.

    An unjust law is no law at all.

    This has been a standard legal maxim throughout the world.

    But Vladimir Putin has no respect for law.
    No law of any kind. Except his own.

    President Joe Biden made every effort to bring her home. And he
    succeeded. And yet you, Aaron T., would have chosen to let her rot
    in a Russian gulag forever, not doing a thing to obtain her release.

    President Joe Biden is still making every effort to bring Paul Whelon
    home. Quite unlike Donald Trump, who chose to do absolutely nothing -
    for three years when he was president.

    What kind of despicable person would do that? Choosing to do nothing
    to have a former Marine released, who was falsely accused and convicted
    in a terror state run by a madman?

    Vladimir Putin did not give a rat's cccktail about the law of any

    Putin isn't a magistrate court judge; he's actually the president of Russia.

    Elections in Russia are a joke. Whenever Putin is up for re-election,
    his main opponents are either taken off the ballot due to some
    technicaity, put in a gulag, poisoned, or fall off a tall building.

    I would not put too much faith in Russian "democracy" ...

    We all know Donald Trump did not give a fuck about Paul Whelon.
    Trump let Whelon rot in a Russian jail for three years, doing nothing
    to help get him out, while he was prez. Whelon was falsely accused,

    Trump said he "refused to trade Viktor Bout for Paul Whelen."

    Bull fucking shit. Trump made no such comment at any time during
    his entire stint as president. In fact, Donald Trump did nothing at
    all to even try to obtain the release of the former Marine. Wny not?
    Because Donald J. Trump did not give a rat's cocktail about Whelon.
    Just like he does not give a rat's cocktail about America.

    He made a good choice. Paul Whelan's not worth that much trouble.

    A US Marine. Who served his country with honor and distinction.
    That is who you would have left behind. To rot in a Russian gulag.
    Without even lifting a finger to try to bring him home.

    Donald J. Trump did just that. Left one of our nation's finest
    to rot in hell in the terror state known as Russia.

    The same rotten former president who publicly stated his own
    disdain for the US Constitution.

    did Trump choose to do nothing on his behalf? Why did your fine
    president choose to suck Putin's dick for so long, pretending that

    What did Trump do for Putin? Acknowledge him? BFD!!

    Trump did everything he could for his buddy in Moscow.
    Including meeting with him, behind closed doors, in Helsinki.
    As well as attempting to blackmail the president of Ukraine.

    Iran also has a habit of making false accusations, then sentencing
    those convicted to harsh penalties - such as death by stoning. In
    Saudi Arabia those convicted can literally have their heads chopped
    off.

    So would it be smart for us to go to these countries and F around as if we were in San Diego?

    San Diego does not have any kangaroo courts. Governor Newsom would
    never allow any city in California to do that.

    She wasn't abused while in custody (or else we'd have heard about
    it.

    How do you know? Were you there? Spending time in a Russian gulag?
    Having your braids chopped off by other inmates (or prison guards)?
    Please tell us what it was really like, during your confinement.

    So if there's no obvious signs of human rights treaty violations, then we should just assume that there were human rights treaty violations??

    Griner's braids where chopped off. That was a physical act that was
    done to her. Whether by her own hand or by someone else. If done by
    her own hand, was she forced to do so? Did she even have a choice?
    We do not know what happened to her during her captivity in Russia.
    Putin won't tell us. Nor will her jailers.

    And yet Aaron T. would have let her rot in a Russian gulag. For the
    rest of her natural life, or shortened due to harsh conditions or foul
    play.

    Just like he would let a former Marine rot in a Russian gulag.

    Griner was guilty of whatever the fuck Putin said she was guilty of.
    And she was sentenced and convicted in due accordance to Putin's
    wishes.
    That is all that counts. Regardless of what your beloved Wikipedia
    had
    to say.

    You have sick fantasies about Trump, Putin, and now Griner.

    Donald Trump is a bad man.
    Vladimir Putin is an evil man.
    Brittney Griner is an American hero.

    You need some sort of bisexual/biracial/transgender love doll.

    Sex toys are a lot of fun.
    But you really do have to know how to handle them.

    Thank god it was the Biden administration that negotiated for the
    release of Brittney Griner. Otherwise, she was still be sitting in
    a Russian gulag (or in some unmarked grave).

    I don't care about Britney.

    You should care about all Americans.
    Hating Griner because she is lesbian is inhuman.
    Hating Whelon because he is a former Marine is also inhuman.

    She should do that type of work that Kid Rock suggested Oprah do.

    Griner is a professional basketball player. One of the best in the
    world, in the WNBA. Kid Rock would have a hard time just making a
    basket in a high school gym. And I doubt Oprah could even hit the
    rim, much less make a lay-up.

    I care more about the rest of the American people whose lives are now in danger all thanks to your idiot basketball stoner.

    Chill out, dude! Have a toke! You'll enjoy it!

    Brittney Griner, her spouse, her family, her relatives, her friends,
    the entire country, are commending Joe Biden for having successfully
    brought her home from Russia. Time for you to do the same.

    The "entire country" isn't commending him for it.

    They greeted her with open arms when her plane landed in San Antonio.

    I want to send her back to Russia.

    Only in your dreams.

    When did your hero, Donald Trump, ever do anything positive for
    former Marine Paul Whelon?

    Whelan is dumb for visiting Russia in the first place. Why fight for American freedom if you ain't gonna stick around to enjoy it? But at least he didn't take drugs with him (he's not a COMPLETE idiot.)

    You are saying a Russian madman in charge of a terror state has
    absolute right to kidnap citizens of other countries and have them
    convicted of crimes they did not commit and sentence them to years
    at hard labor in Russian gulags.

    And that no American president should do a damn thing to bring
    our citizens home. Regardless of having been wrongfully accused and
    convicted.

    Shame, shame on Donald Trump. And those who continue to support his
    sorry ass.

    Imagine that. Trading arms for hostages. On orders from his boss,
    Ronald Reagan. What a guy.

    That sounds similar to what Biden did.

    When did Joe Biden (or his son) ever trade arms for hostages?

    We should all do like Griner, protest for justice wherever we find
    it necessary. Not limited to police brutality or any other single

    Gettin stoned? Count me in! Smuggling drugs into Russia? Count me out!

    There was never any intent to distribute. This was a case of simple
    possession - of a small amount of hash oil - for personal use.
    For Russians, a small fine, with no jail time. For lesbians and
    Americans - up to ten years at hard labor in a Russian gulag.

    An unjust law is no law at all.

    lex injusta non est lex

    Yes, you do. Otherwise, you would not have made the absurd comment
    "You take 2 knnes for Biden every day."

    That's not a reference to gay sex. It's a metaphor that describes your relationship with Biden.

    No matter how you cut it, unjust laws are not laws.
    And that is no metaphor.

    For Life,
    Lee

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