As a counter to all of the heated discussion over the number of migrants/refugees/illegal aliens coming into the USA over the last
decade over the Southern border: Consider the mid 19th century and
Ireland. If you take a look, one can find various numbers for different periods, with many of the estimates overlapping in time. Here are some
of those numbers:

4.5 million from 1841 to WWII
~1 million from 1851 to 1860
~2 million from 1845 to 1852
~3 million from 1820 to 1880

Whichever set of numbers one uses, it is clear that there were hundreds
of thousands of migrants each year for more than a decade after the
potato famine.

These people were not deported. For the most part, they established
themselves as productive members of society. Another estimate is that
1/3 of the USA population claims Irish heritage.

SO -- why is the current influx from the Southern border such a
political hot potato?

Dale Shipp
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On 23 Oct 2022, Dale Shipp said the following...

Whichever set of numbers one uses, it is clear that there were hundreds
of thousands of migrants each year for more than a decade after the
potato famine.
These people were not deported. For the most part, they established themselves as productive members of society. Another estimate is that
1/3 of the USA population claims Irish heritage.
SO -- why is the current influx from the Southern border such a
political hot potato?

Irish immigration was a political hot potato, too, with the added stigma that they were Catholics coming into a largely Protestant country (apparently that meant a lot more back then).

Jeff.

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SO -- why is the current influx from the Southern border such a
political hot potato?

Easy, the US Christians are the amongst worst religious hypocrites in the world. They claim to be Christian, i.e. living by the teachings by their prophet Jesus, yet renounce everything he is telling them in their Holy Bible, in effect the entire second half of their Bible.

Jesus said: "Love your neighbour."
Never said: "... but only if they look like you."

The way they picture Jesus is a North European white male, blond hair and beard and with a straight nose, nothing like the Jewish, brown Arab looking person with a curved nose he really must have been.



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Catholics coming into a largely Protestant country (apparently that
meant a lot more back then).

So, being Christian isn't enough, you must be of a certain Christian branch, decided by the rulers at the time? That fight has caused more wars than anything else in human history.

I wonder what Jesus would have to say about that. "Watch out for all those false prophets!" maybe...?

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Irish immigration was a political hot potato, too, with the added stigma that they were Catholics coming into a largely Protestant country (apparently that meant a lot more back then).

+1

I am guessing that having social media and 24hr TV news stations would have made it even worse for them than it was.


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Hello Björn,

SO -- why is the current influx from the Southern border such a
political hot potato?

Easy, the US Christians are the amongst worst religious hypocrites in the world. They claim to be Christian, i.e. living by the teachings by their prophet Jesus, yet renounce everything he is telling them in their Holy Bible, in effect the entire second half of their Bible.

Jesus said: "Love your neighbour."
Never said: "... but only if they look like you."

Looks can be deceiving.

The way they picture Jesus is a North European white male, blond hair and beard and with a straight nose, nothing like the Jewish, brown Arab looking
person with a curved nose he really must have been.

What most people view as Jesus is a reproduction of a painting
by Warner Sallman called "Head of Jesus".

The picture of Jesus is taken from an actual painting of Jesus,
which is still on display, at Anderson University in Indiana (USA),
by an artist from Chicago, Illinois (USA). The only difference being
the original painting is of a Jesus with
brown eyes, not blue.

https://tinyurl.com/yckabu8e


Based on gospel accounts, Jesus was a black man. Would you like
me to cite chapter and verse? Definintely not the same picture as
depicted in the famous painting, or reproductions of that painting.
In the same article noted above, a more scientific portrait of
Jesus is described.

Point is, Jesus is thought to be the same color as the people in
the area who claim to be Christians. To Asians, Jesus is yellow. To
Africans, Jesus is black. To Mexicans, Jesus is brown (as well as
the Lady of Guadalupe).

It really should come as no surprise the Jesus is white for those
who are Swedish, Russian, English, German, etc. But not for Italians.
They know Jesus was green, the same color as their own olive skin.

I know. The painting on the alb of a church where I am is that of
Dago Jesus. The guy who painted it was Dutch. It caused quite a stir
when he finished it, with everyone talking about what they had seen.

Except fot the bishop, who was left totally speechless at the sight.


For Life,
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Hello Dale,

As a counter to all of the heated discussion over the number of migrants/refugees/illegal aliens coming into the USA over the last
decade over the Southern border: Consider the mid 19th century and Ireland. If you take a look, one can find various numbers for different periods, with many of the estimates overlapping in time. Here are some
of those numbers:

4.5 million from 1841 to WWII
~1 million from 1851 to 1860
~2 million from 1845 to 1852
~3 million from 1820 to 1880

Whichever set of numbers one uses, it is clear that there were hundreds
of thousands of migrants each year for more than a decade after the
potato famine.

And all of them were white. Each and every one of them.
But nobody wants to let all them Ukrainians in. Even though
all of them are white. And nobody wants to let all them
Russians trying to flee a madman who wants to send them to
Ukraine.

These people were not deported.

The USA does not deport its own kind.
Especially those who sneak in from the northern border.

For the most part, they established themselves as productive members of society.

Irish worked the streets as policemen, security detail, and made
for great boxers. But it was not just Irish who made up America.

Italian and Sicilians who made their way to New Orleans built the
world's largest macaroni factory and made noodles (and spaghetti) for
the entire country ...

Another estimate is that 1/3 of the USA population claims Irish heritage.

And what is the population of white folks in this country?
Far more than 1/3. Used to be more like 2/3. Still over half
today, but by 2050 will be a minority.

SO -- why is the current influx from the Southern border such a
political hot potato?

We cannot build wall fast enough. Brown folks are already a majority
of the population in New Mexico. And growing fast in Arizona and Nevada.
And continuing to grow in California, especially in East LA.

But no wall on our northern border. We need more white folks to keep
the majority from losing control ...

For Life,
Lee

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On 10-23-22 08:59, Björn Felten <=-
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The way they picture Jesus is a North European white
male, blond hair and beard and with a straight nose,
nothing like the Jewish, brown Arab looking person with a
curved nose he really must have been.

Very true and to the point.

Dale Shipp
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Hello Dale,

The way they picture Jesus is a North European white
male, blond hair and beard and with a straight nose,
nothing like the Jewish, brown Arab looking person with a
curved nose he really must have been.

Very true and to the point.

He did live in Egypt for a time. A spitting image of Anwar Sadat.
Not even the Romans could recognize him.

For Life,
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