on *20.02.22* at *13:23:16* You wrote in area *POLITICS*
to *ALL* about *""Sysop""*.

If you honestly believe that there is no difference between those two,
are you now going to claim that owning a computer is a right?

I am not. Are you going to claim that having a state-issued photo ID is a
right?

That brings up a good point. I think it should a right. In states that
offer one for free, it is close to being one.

Far from it. It costs real money to get the government-issued documents necessary to be able to get a "free" state-issued photo ID. This cost, as well as the means to travel, is too prohibitive for many of the poor, who would not likely vote for conservative politicians.

Therefore, conservative politicians will continue to make voting as difficult as possible for the poor, resulting in more voter suppression rather than less.

You are starting to think proactively about this. Now you need to
suggest
this idea to some of your state legislators.

Since conservative politicians cannot win election without voter suppression, it is unlikely that any of them will be in favor of using taxpayer dollars to help pay the cost for poor folks to get the government-issued documents necessary to obtain "free" state-issued photo IDs.

My son needed a birth certificate and 2 pieces of mail. Where are these onerous burdens you seem to think exist?

And besides, we still are left with the fact that people need a state issued ID to get a job, get welfare, get food stamps, buy cigarettes, get on a train or plane, see a doctor, or cash checks.

Yet you draw the line at voting? It seems like an arbitrary, but political, line in the sand.

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Hello Al,

If you honestly believe that there is no difference between those

two,

are you now going to claim that owning a computer is a right?

I am not. Are you going to claim that having a state-issued photo ID

is a

right?

That brings up a good point. I think it should a right. In states

that

offer one for free, it is close to being one.

Far from it. It costs real money to get the government-issued

documents

necessary to be able to get a "free" state-issued photo ID. This

cost, as

well as the means to travel, is too prohibitive for many of the poor,

who

would not likely vote for conservative politicians.

Therefore, conservative politicians will continue to make voting as
difficult as possible for the poor, resulting in more voter

suppression

rather than less.

You are starting to think proactively about this. Now you need to
suggest
this idea to some of your state legislators.

Since conservative politicians cannot win election without voter
suppression, it is unlikely that any of them will be in favor of

using

taxpayer dollars to help pay the cost for poor folks to get the
government-issued documents necessary to obtain "free" state-issued

photo

IDs.

My son needed a birth certificate and 2 pieces of mail. Where are these onerous burdens you seem to think exist?

It is up to you to find out.

And besides, we still are left with the fact that people need a state issued
ID to get a job, get welfare, get food stamps, buy cigarettes, get on a train or plane, see a doctor, or cash checks.

Why should any of those things require a state-issued photo ID?

Voting is a right, not a privilege.
Getting a job may be difficult, or even impossible, for some.
And really should be a right, as a job is an economic necessity
for most people. Every country has its own form of welfare, as
well as the USA. Cigarettes are cancer sticks that should be
banned from the face of this planet. Access to quality health
care is the first of all human rights. Cashing checks is easy,
but can cause problems if they bounce.

Yet you draw the line at voting?

Voting is a right, not a privilege.
No state-issued photo ID should be required, as none are necessary.
But conservatives want them because it is a form of voter repression
that makes it easier for conservatives to "win" elections.

It seems like an arbitrary, but political, line in the sand.

Everything ought to be free.

--Lee

--
I think they bought a Jeep

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