Pleace accept the Austrian (2:31) vote

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

br
Helmut

--- FleetStreet 1.27.3.8d
* Origin: DonHelmi's Datendienst (2:313/41)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | | ------------------------------------------------


Vincent
Host 2:25 el al.

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)

Hello Vincent!

28 Feb 22 16:31, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | | ------------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

On behalf of Region 12:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------


Thanks,
Jay Harris, RC12

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/02/15 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)

Hello Jay!

02 Mar 22 11:09, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

On behalf of Region 12:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

On behalf of Region 41:
------------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | | ------------------------------------------------


Petros ARgyrakis RC4

--- D'Bridge 4
* Origin: VM/SP (2:410/9)

Hello Petros!

03 Mar 22 10:06, you wrote to all:

On behalf of Region 41:
------------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | | ------------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

From R57

With thanks, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)

Hello Paul!

08 Mar 22 20:06, you wrote to Election Coordintor:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

From R57

With thanks, Paul

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Fidonet Brasil - R80 Internet Gateway (4:80/1)

Hello Flavio!

10 Mar 22 09:25, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

As a result of polling Region 13 sysops I cast the R13 vote.


----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | x | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | x | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | x | |
----------------------------------------------

Michael Luko
RC13

--- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462
* Origin: Christian Fellowship | cfbbs.no-ip.com 856-933-7096 (1:266/512)

Hello Michael!

11 Mar 22 03:12, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

As a result of polling Region 13 sysops I cast the R13 vote.

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | x | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | x | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | x | |
----------------------------------------------

Michael Luko
RC13

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | x | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

¡Saludos!
-=Momia=-

--- GoldED+/DPMI32 1.1.5-040330
* Origin: Momia BBS - telnet://momiabbs.no-ip.info:2323 (4:90/0)

(For the third time - the first 2 have not been acked)

After polling my region, the R17 vote is:


----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------



Cheers... Dallas
RC17

--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)

(For the third time - the first 2 have not been acked)

After polling my region, the R17 vote is:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | | ----------------------------------------------

Got it here ...

SEEN-BY: 310/31 320/219 335/364 341/234 342/11 396/45 400/2992 410/9

--------

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20220222
* Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)

Got it here ...

SEEN-BY: 310/31 320/219 335/364 341/234 342/11 396/45 400/2992 410/9

Got it here too.

X-JAM-From: Dallas Hinton <1:153/7715>
X-JAM-To: Election Coordinator
X-JAM-MSGID: 1:153/7715.0 22b702f0
X-JAM-FTSKLUDGE: CHRS: IBMPC 2
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 30/0 50/109 154/10 201/0 203/0 2 124 412 221/1 6 230/0 240/12 1120
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 240/1512 1634 1895 8001 8002 8005 280/464 5003 5006 5555 291/111
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 301/1 113 303/0 313/41 320/219 335/364 341/66 371/0 460/58 467/888
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 712/848 2432/390 2448/1021 2452/250 3634/12 5001/100 5005/49 5019/40
X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 5020/545 846 848 1042 2047 2140 4441 5053/51 58 5054/8 5058/104 X-JAM-SEENBY2D: 5064/56 5083/1 444
X-JAM-PATH2D: 153/7715 3634/12 240/1120 301/1 5020/1042 280/5555 203/0 2




..

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
* Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)

Hello Dallas!

Friday March 11 2022 10:50, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

The previous time it did not have subject Vote

Possibly the reason ?

(For the third time - the first 2 have not been acked)

After polling my region, the R17 vote is:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

Cheers... Dallas
RC17

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)

Hey Dallas!

This one (the third) was recieved from 1:320/219 not too long ago. Hope it helps.

11 Mar 22 10:50:25
Election Coordinator
Dallas Hinton
Vote
AREA:FTSC_PUBLIC
@MSGID: 1:153/7715.0 22b702f0
@CHRS: IBMPC 2
(For the third time - the first 2 have not been acked)

After polling my region, the R17 vote is:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

Cheers... Dallas
RC17

--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
SEEN-BY: 1/19 123 16/0 19/37 30/0 50/109 106/201 123/130 132/174 153/7001 7715
SEEN-BY: 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 229/426 240/12 1120 1512 1634 1895 5832 8001
SEEN-BY: 240/8002 8005 261/1 275/100 280/464 5003 5006 5555 291/111 301/1 113
SEEN-BY: 303/0 310/31 313/41 320/119 219 319 322/0 326/101 335/364 341/66 SEEN-BY: 371/0 460/58 467/888 633/509 712/848 2432/390 2448/1021 2452/250 SEEN-BY: 3634/12 5001/100 5005/49 5019/40 5020/545 846 1042 2047 2140 4441 SEEN-BY: 5053/51 58 5054/8 5058/104 5064/56 5083/1 444
@PATH: 153/7715 3634/12 240/1120 301/1 5020/1042 280/5555 320/219

Life is good,
Maurice

... Eaðe wis man mæg witan spell and eac secgan.
Easily may a wise man understand a story, and tell it too.
--- GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)

Hi, Vincent -- on Mar 11 2022 at 20:58, you wrote:

The previous time it did not have subject Vote

Possibly the reason ?

Could be? It's a mystery! :-)



Cheers... Dallas

--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)

Hello Election,

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20210705
* Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hello Election,

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Regards,
Nick, RC11

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20210705
* Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hello Manuel!

11 Mar 22 14:15, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | x | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

Hello Dallas!

11 Mar 22 10:50, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

(For the third time - the first 2 have not been acked)

This is the first one I have received from you; it appears there is a black hole somewhere in this echo...

After polling my region, the R17 vote is:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

Hello Nicholas!

11 Mar 22 17:44, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

Hello Election,

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Regards,
Nick

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

Hi, Andrew -- on Mar 12 2022 at 01:46, you wrote:

This is the first one I have received from you; it appears there is
a black hole somewhere in this echo...

That's awkward. Anyway, this one got through, thanks!

After polling my region, the R17 vote is:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

___ GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
- Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)
@EEN-BY: 1/19 123 16/0 19/37 106/201 123/130 132/174 134/101
138/146 153/7001
@EEN-BY: 153/7715 154/10 203/0 221/0 229/426 240/5832 261/1 275/100 1000 @EEN-BY: 280/5555 310/31 320/119 219 319 322/0 326/101 342/11 633/509 @EEN-BY: 640/1321 3634/12 5020/545
@ATH: 320/219 153/7715

Cheers... Dallas

--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)

Hello!

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

Regards, Avshalom Donskoi

--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: DVB Station (2:400/2992)

Hello Avshalom!

12 Mar 22 13:45, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

Regards, Avshalom Donskoi

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

As promised, here's the (unanimous) vote from the sysops in region 20, one day before deadline to make sure it gets counted:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------




..

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
* Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)

Björn Felten wrote to Election Coordinator <=-

As promised, here's the (unanimous) vote from the sysops in
region 20, one day before deadline to make sure it gets counted:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

Awwww, isn't that cute!

Do you think anyone actually believes that?


... Some people are born stupid, others work to acquire it.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)

Hello Björn!

19 Mar 22 22:14, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

As promised, here's the (unanimous) vote from the sysops in region 20,
one day before deadline to make sure it gets counted:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

Hello Election!

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Andrew
RC16

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

Hello Andrew!

19 Mar 22 23:59, I wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| | | | |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
| James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
| Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Andrew
RC16

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

Do you think anyone actually believes that?

Of course not. Everyone know how corrupt and undemocratic the Nordic countries are. But can I at least pretend?



..

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* Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)

Awwww, isn't that cute!
Do you think anyone actually believes that?

I'm pretty sure he's the only person in the region.


- Andre
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Radio Mentor BBS - bbs.radiomentor.org (1:154/70)

Awwww, isn't that cute!
Do you think anyone actually believes that?

I'm pretty sure he's the only person in the region.

And *I'm* pretty sure that's the whole point of the joke Dan was making. (^_^)

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)

Andre Robitaille wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Awwww, isn't that cute!
Do you think anyone actually believes that?

I'm pretty sure he's the only person in the region.

The current nodelist shows there are about 20 systems in R20.

So, my statement really becomes: Do you think all 20 of those
sysops decided they wanted to abstain from voting, for all
three candidates, without any "encouragement" from Beorn?

I'm selling a bridge in NYC if anyone's interested.



... Facts cannot prevail against faith, or adamant folly.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)

Awwww, isn't that cute!
Do you think anyone actually believes that?

I'm pretty sure he's the only person in the region.

The current nodelist shows there are about 20 systems in R20.

So, my statement really becomes: Do you think all 20 of those
sysops decided they wanted to abstain from voting, for all
three candidates, without any "encouragement" from Beorn?

I'm selling a bridge in NYC if anyone's interested.

What, no prime real estate in Florida? (o_-)

I'm inclined to agree about this potential 'encouragement', based solely on Bjorn's comments on this subject in various other echos...

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)

The current nodelist shows there are about 20 systems in R20.

Yes, my mistake. Wasn’t paying proper attention.

without any "encouragement"

As the RC, I would think that guiding those sysops is his prerogative. But if he’s voting without their input, that’s not good.


- Andre
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Radio Mentor BBS - bbs.radiomentor.org (1:154/70)

I'm selling a bridge in NYC if anyone's interested.

If it's one of the BMW bridges, that I've crossed over and under many times, I doubt that you can sell it to anyone but an ignorant, US Las Vegas investor.

Maybe some Russian oligarch will still be interested. Just don't expect to be paid though...




..

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
* Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)

Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-

So, my statement really becomes: Do you think all 20 of those
sysops decided they wanted to abstain from voting, for all
three candidates, without any "encouragement" from Beorn?

I'm selling a bridge in NYC if anyone's interested.

What, no prime real estate in Florida? (o_-)

Nope, nobody wants to sell, things are still skyrocketing here.

I'm inclined to agree about this potential 'encouragement', based
solely on Bjorn's comments on this subject in various other
echos...

Honestly I don't think there's ANY chance that all of them wanted to
abstain. Just wouldn't make any sense. The only other answer is that
he voted without any input from them, which is actually allowed, but
the bold-faced lie is the issue here. Oh well. Who's surprised?



... Pros are those who do their jobs well, even when they don't feel like it. === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)

Andre Robitaille wrote to Dan Clough <=-

The current nodelist shows there are about 20 systems in R20.

Yes, my mistake. Wasn't paying proper attention.

No worries.

without any "encouragement"

As the RC, I would think that guiding those sysops is his
prerogative.

Guiding, perhaps. Convincing them of what they should choose due
to his personal agenda, is not.

The more likely answer is that there was no consultation done.

But if he's voting without their input, that's not good.

It's certainly "legal" as per P4, but not a good practice, in.....
practice.


... All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)

Honestly I don't think there's ANY chance that all of them wanted to abstain. Just wouldn't make any sense. The only other answer is that
he voted without any input from them, which is actually allowed, but
the bold-faced lie is the issue here. Oh well. Who's surprised?

Damn it, Dan! Stop making me agree with you! (o_-)
(So glad we're both done with that initial bs, btw. It's far more fun when we get along.)

I will first say that neither of us were part of R20's internal deliberations, and we cannot be certain what went on 'behind closed doors'. Having said
that, you're correct in saying that lying about it would be a pretty big
issue, and also pointless.

I choose to give Bjorn the benefit of the doubt here, though. I have not seen him lie in the past, so I have no reason to suspect it here. But, (as you were quick to point out on Day One) I am very new here! I have not had the chance
to experience the full gamut of every participant's personality.

I begin to wonder if this is, perhaps, a good thing. Surely, not everyone is
as evil as his opponents would say? (o_O)

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
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Awwww, isn't that cute!
Do you think anyone actually believes that?

I'm pretty sure he's the only person in the region.

In Z1 it's quite easy and straightforward to consider another region within the same zone because up to a high degree it is the same playing field ... culturally, linguistically, historicaly. Yeah yeah yeah Canada, Texas, ...

Move to another zone such as Z2 and every region is a different country or set of countries, most likely there are different languages all over the place, different cultures and they were eachother's foes to the death not really that long ago. It's very diffult to judge what goes on in a different region, even if you display the knowitall-attitude as you do .... and Dan .... and Shaun.... I would even say 'especially' with that knowitall-attitude...

My own region R29 Belgium has Dutch/Flemish as its language and 22km from here (13.7 miles) is the Netherlands, also speaking Dutch and while technically it should be easy, both sides agree that that's already enough to create confusion. So you and those other 2 dudes claim you know what goes on in Scandinavia?

For the record, R20 consists of 3 countries with different languages and cultures .... If you want to get on Bjorn's back because you doubt he polled his region, then try to answer this question ... how many RCs do you think did poll their region one way or the other?

I even know about RCs who did not poll their region and do not vote either ... Plenty reasons to get upset if that's what you intend to become ...

\%/@rd

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In Z1 it's quite easy and straightforward to consider another region within the same zone because up to a high degree it is the same playing field ... culturally, linguistically, historicaly. Yeah yeah yeah
Canada, Texas, ...

I was about to say...but you beat me to it...(o_-)

Move to another zone such as Z2 and every region is a different country
or set of countries, most likely there are different languages all over the place, different cultures and they were eachother's foes to the
death not really that long ago. It's very diffult to judge what goes on
in a different region, even if you display the knowitall-attitude as you do .... and Dan .... and Shaun.... I would even say 'especially' with
that knowitall-attitude...

Hey, Ward? Feel free to go fu--um...'have sex with'...yourself at any time!
You can't call it attitude if I really *do* know it all! (^_^)

My own region R29 Belgium has Dutch/Flemish as its language and 22km
from here (13.7 miles) is the Netherlands, also speaking Dutch and while technically it should be easy, both sides agree that that's already
enough to create confusion. So you and those other 2 dudes claim you
know what goes on in Scandinavia?

I have always claimed the opposite! (@_@) More than once, I've said 'I don't really know what it's like in Europe.'

However, here in Z1, we are divided into regions by border, just like it's
done in Z2, as far as I'm aware. Not *our* fault that there's only one
computer in all of Whogivzafukistan...

For the record, R20 consists of 3 countries with different languages and cultures .... If you want to get on Bjorn's back because you doubt he polled his region

In a previous message, I actually defended Bjorn; I'm a little surprised that you ignored that. It does no good at all to pick and choose which facts
to ignore.

then try to answer this question ... how many RCs do
you think did poll their region one way or the other?

I definitely don't know the answer to that question, and neither do you. I do know that my RC asked me and everyone else in my region for opinions. And
you know the same (or opposite) for *only* yours. I cannot speak for R20 any more than you can.

It's not 'knowitall attitude' if everyone knows it.

I even know about RCs who did not poll their region and do not vote
either ... Plenty reasons to get upset if that's what you intend to
become ...

That's a different topic entirely, and not one I wish to get into.

Your friendly neighbourhood 'knowitall',

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
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different region, even if you display the knowitall-attitude as you do

Ah, no. Me thinking that a representative should check with their sysops isn't being a know it all. They can literally just email or netmail with each other. It's really not complicated.


- Andre
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Ward Dossche wrote to Andre Robitaille <=-

<SNIP> (Ward's points about the multinational/multilingual nature of
some regions in Z2)

This all makes good sense and are good points by you. Definitely more complicated than in Z1.

I even know about RCs who did not poll their region and do not
vote either ... Plenty reasons to get upset if that's what you
intend to become ...

I have ZERO doubt that many (most?) RCs did not poll their region and
submitted their vote. Some did, probably. Many don't even vote,
obviously, so therefore wouldn't bother polling their sysops.

The main point that I made earlier was that I think Bjorn *LIED* about
his vote. He said that his R20 sysops *UNANIMOUSLY* voted to *ABSTAIN*
on *ALL* *THREE* candidates.

Now seriously, do you actually believe that claim? Put aside your old crony-ism and the fact that he's your buddy, and give me your HONEST
opinion on that claim. Do you REALLY believe he polled his 20 or so
sysops, and they ALL independently came up with the idea of abstaining
on ALL THREE candidates?

Come on man, let's try to at least be HONEST once in a while, eh?


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Dan,

Now seriously, do you actually believe that claim?

Absolutely ... Those Swedes, these Finns and the fearsome Dane are a constituency to behold.

Put aside your old crony-ism and the fact that he's your buddy, ...

Bjorn my buddy? Under which flat stone have you been hiding ... after all the names that I called him?

You rwally believe that Khrap?

Do you REALLY believe he polled his 20 or so sysops, ...

Yups ... perhaps you need to clarify what "polling" is ... If an RC writes in a sysop-echo "This is happening and this will be my intended vote" and nobody responds while they all are "Live", then that is pretty unanymous to me ...

\%/@rd

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Come on man, let's try to at least be HONEST once in a while, eh?

'Honestly', I'm surprised you didn't blast him for the 'knowitall' remark, as
I did, and another...

In this case, *and this alone(o_O)*, you are better than I, sir. You set an example that I should have followed.

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
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The main point that I made earlier was that I think Bjorn *LIED* about
his vote. He said that his R20 sysops *UNANIMOUSLY* voted to *ABSTAIN*
on *ALL* *THREE* candidates.

This does seem doubtful, to an outside observer. And any defense of this, that doesn't also come from Bjorn himself, should also be doubted.

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
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Yups ... perhaps you need to clarify what "polling" is ... If an RC
writes in a sysop-echo "This is happening and this will be my intended vote" and nobody responds while they all are "Live", then that is pretty unanymous to me ...

"unanimous"...sorry...I truly am a 'grammar Nazi', at least in english...

Also, abstentions don't count, remember? Perhaps these SysOps are
simply abstaining? (o_O)

Wait, isn't that exactly what Bjorn just did?

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Do you REALLY believe he polled his 20 or so sysops, ...

Yups ... perhaps you need to clarify what "polling" is ... If an
RC writes in a sysop-echo "This is happening and this will be my
intended vote" and nobody responds while they all are "Live",
then that is pretty unanymous to me ...

Yeah, I figured you'd come up with that kind of "logic" as an explanation.

I'm not sure why I even bother trying to talk to you two. I'm about
done wasting my time.



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Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-

The main point that I made earlier was that I think Bjorn *LIED* about
his vote. He said that his R20 sysops *UNANIMOUSLY* voted to *ABSTAIN*
on *ALL* *THREE* candidates.

This does seem doubtful, to an outside observer. And any defense
of this, that doesn't also come from Bjorn himself, should also
be doubted.

It's more than doubtful, it's VERY likely to be true. Nearly 100%
probability that it's true.

Yes, any defense other than from Bjorn is completely useless. Especially
from his decades-long cronies. To be completely truthful, I would have
ZERO confidence in anything further that Bjorn would say about it. Pretty
sure we won't hear another word from him about it, anyway.

Not much I dislike more than a liar.



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Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Come on man, let's try to at least be HONEST once in a while, eh?

'Honestly', I'm surprised you didn't blast him for the
'knowitall' remark, as I did, and another...

I didn't bother, because I saw those comments for what they were:
A diversion tactic to shift focus away from the point I was trying
to make (that Bjorn lied about his vote). Pretty standard practice
from both of these guys, that I've learned to easily pick up on.

In this case, *and this alone(o_O)*, you are better than I, sir.
You set an example that I should have followed.

Well, maybe. Perhaps just more experience with these folks who will
generally not answer a direct question, and will instead try to divert attention and start a new flamefest so that the original point of the conversation is lost and forgotten.



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Come on man, let's try to at least be HONEST once in a while, eh?

Well, since we're being honest and all...(o_O)

I really tried my best to disagree with you. I did not like the tone at all. But...

Perhaps just more experience with these folks who will
generally not answer a direct question, and will instead try to divert attention and start a new flamefest so that the original point of the conversation is lost and forgotten.

I find that very long description slash run on sentence with not nearly enough punctuation, oh my god who writes like this certainly not me wait im actually doing it right now.

to be a little too accurate... -_-'

Couldn't find anything else to pick at, so I went with grammar. ~\(^_^)/~

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
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Shaun,

Couldn't find anything else to pick at, so I went with grammar. ~\(^_^)/~

We stopped doing that when the one whose name we're not supposed to mention, kicked the bucket.

If you want to go with grammar, spelling, puntuation for one, then you should do it for "all" and then that's what you'll do during your Fido-days for the rest of your life.

\%/@rd

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Couldn't find anything else to pick at, so I went with grammar. ~\(^_^)/~

If you want to go with grammar, spelling, puntuation for one, then you should do it for "all" and then that's what you'll do during your Fido-days for the rest of your life.

Or...I could do it as a joke once in a while, like I just did? (o_O)

Live a little, Ward! Jeez!

McDoob
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Re: Re: Vote
By: Ward Dossche to Dan Clough on Sun Mar 20 2022 11:16 pm

Dan,

Now seriously, do you actually believe that claim?

Absolutely ... Those Swedes, these Finns and the fearsome Dane are a constituency to behold.

Put aside your old crony-ism and the fact that he's your buddy, ...

Bjorn my buddy? Under which flat stone have you been hiding ... after all th names that I called him?

You rwally believe that Khrap?

Do you REALLY believe he polled his 20 or so sysops, ...

Yups ... perhaps you need to clarify what "polling" is ... If an RC writes i sysop-echo "This is happening and this will be my intended vote" and nobody responds while they all are "Live", then that is pretty unanymous to me ...

\%/@rd

Yeah, I was laughing too at you and Bjorn being 'buddies'. Ah well, too off topic here.
xxcarol
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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
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Hello Fabio!

27 Feb 23 08:33, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230214
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | X |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | X |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

Bye/2 Torsten, RC24

... MAILBOX01: up 8d 6h 48m load: 39 proc, 188 threads (tbup1.1)
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Hello Election!

Monday February 27 2023 08:33, Fabio Bizzi wrote to you:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------


Vincent

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Hello Torsten!

27 Feb 23 23:09, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | X |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | X |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

Bye/2 Torsten, RC24

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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Hello Vincent!

27 Feb 23 22:33, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230214
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After carefully evaluating the feedback from the sysops in, as well as outside of, Region 20, here's the vote from RC20 (Bjorn Felten in the nodelist, thanks to a badly configured MakeNl higher up in the food chain):


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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | X |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | X |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
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--
United we are strong, we win. Divided we are weak, we lose.

..

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Here is the vote from Region 28


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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | x |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | x |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | x |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | x |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | x |
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Michiel van der Vlist
RC28


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Hello Bj�rn!

01 Mar 23 15:57, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

After carefully evaluating the feedback from the sysops in, as well as outside of, Region 20, here's the vote from RC20 (Bjorn Felten in the nodelist, thanks to a badly configured MakeNl higher up in the food chain):

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | X |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | X |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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Hello Michiel!

01 Mar 23 15:43, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

Here is the vote from Region 28

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | x |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | x |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | x |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | x |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | x |
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Michiel van der Vlist
RC28

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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Hi,

Here is the vote from R29:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
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Tom

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Hello Tom!

03 Mar 23 19:33, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

Hi,

Here is the vote from R29:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230214
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After carefully evaluating the feedback from the sysops in, as well as outside of, Region 20, here's the vote from RC20 (Bjorn Felten in the nodelist, thanks to a badly configured MakeNl higher up in the food
chain):

If there's an issue, please let it be known to the person running the higher up makenl in the nodelist.

As you write yourself ...

"United we are strong, we win. Divided we are weak, we lose."

... then act like it, or as they say in French ...

"Do not just talk the talk, but walk the walk".

\%/@rd

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Hey Ward!

... then act like it, or as they say in French ...
"Do not just talk the talk, but walk the walk".

... or as they say in Swedish ...

"Stark som tjur, smart som traktor."

Life is good,
Maurice

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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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Vote from RG54.

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Terry

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Hello Terry!

12 Mar 23 11:14, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

Vote from RG54.

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Terry

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | x | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | x | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | x | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | x | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | x | |
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Hello Kurt!

12 Mar 23 12:17, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | x | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | x | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | x | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | x | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | x | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
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Hello Election.

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | x | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | x | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | x | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | x | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | x | |
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Best regards,
Marc Lewis
R19C

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Hello Election!

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | X |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | X |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

Best regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40 .

--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20230214
* Origin: DVB Station (2:40/0)

Hello Marc!

13 Mar 23 11:40, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | x | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | x | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | x | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | x | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | x | |
----------------------------------------------
Best regards,
Marc Lewis
R19C

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Avshalom!

13 Mar 23 22:07, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | | X |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | | X |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

Best regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40 .

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

=============================================================================
* Forwarded by Ulrich Schroeter (2:240/1120)
* Area : NETMAIL2 (Netmail2)
* From : Andrew Leary, 1:1/19 (12 Mar 23 14:58)
* To : Ulrich Schroeter
* Subj : SECOND REMINDER: 2023 FTSC Standing Member Election - Call for Votes =============================================================================

=== Cut ===
2023 FTSC standing member election, call for votes
==================================================

...
Voting ends on Sunday, 19 March 2023, 20:00 UTC.


...

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------



=============================================================================


regards, uli ;-)

RC56

--- GoldED-NSF/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-20090710
* Origin: AMBROSIA - Bad Ueberkingen - Germany (2:240/1120)

Hello Ulrich!

15 Mar 23 07:36, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

regards, uli ;-)

RC56

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

WBR,Alex
RC2:50

--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Alex at Home (2:5020/5452)

Hello Alex!

16 Mar 23 19:05, you wrote to all:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | | X |
----------------------------------------------

WBR,Alex
RC2:50

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Thanks,
Jay Harris, RC12

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/03/14 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)

Hello Jay!

17 Mar 23 07:23, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Thanks,
Jay Harris, RC12

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Cheers... Dallas Hinton, RC17

--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)

The Region 13 Ballot submitted below is based on feedback
by Region 13 sysops that participated in a poll.

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | x | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | x | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | x | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | x | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | x | |
----------------------------------------------

Respectfully submitted representing Region 13,

Region 13 Coordinator - Michael Luko

--- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462
* Origin: Christian Fellowship | cfbbs.no-ip.com 856-933-7096 (1:266/512)

Hello Michael!

17 Mar 23 15:57, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

The Region 13 Ballot submitted below is based on feedback
by Region 13 sysops that participated in a poll.

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | x | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | x | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | x | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | x | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | x | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | x | |
----------------------------------------------

Respectfully submitted representing Region 13,

Region 13 Coordinator - Michael Luko

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | | ----------------------------------------------

Cheers... Dallas Hinton, RC17

I got this message in here from Dallas Hinton Yesterday. Maybe you didn't recieve it? These are the kludges..

@SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 103/705 123/0 10 25 115 170 180 200 755 3001 124/5016 @SEEN-BY: 129/215 134/101 135/300 138/146 153/757 7001 7715 154/10 30 40 50 700 @SEEN-BY: 203/0 220/90 221/0 6 222/2 226/18 227/201 229/310 426 240/1120 5832 @SEEN-BY: 250/1 261/38 1466 275/100 1000 280/464 5003 5006 5555 292/854 8125 @SEEN-BY: 299/6 301/1 310/31 320/219 341/66 234 342/11 396/45 423/120 460/58 @SEEN-BY: 633/280 712/848 1321 770/1 2320/105 3634/0 12 24 27 56 57 119 @SEEN-BY: 5020/545
@PATH: 153/7715 3634/12 154/10 280/464 153/757
@MSGID: 1:153/7715.0 41481b70
@REPLY: 1:1/19 6402e9e3
@CHRS: IBMPC 2

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

Hi, Alan -- on Mar 18 2023 at 01:13, you wrote:

I got this message in here from Dallas Hinton Yesterday. Maybe you
didn't recieve it? These are the kludges..

Thanks, Alan -- I hope he got it!


Cheers... Dallas

--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)

I got this message in here from Dallas Hinton Yesterday. Maybe you
didn't recieve it? These are the kludges..

Thanks, Alan -- I hope he got it!

I hope so too.. 320/219 is listed in the seen bys so I would think so.

We'll see.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | X | |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | | ----------------------------------------------

Cheers... Dallas Hinton, RC17

I got this message in here from Dallas Hinton Yesterday. Maybe you didn't recieve it? These are the kludges..

I confirm that, I also saw it.

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20230201
* Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)

Hola Election!

After discussing it with the R34 nodes we have reached the following vote:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Un saludo,
Angel Ripoll
aripoll @ zruspas.org

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230221 + HPT 1.9 + Binkd 1.1 en Debian
* Origin: Synchronet - bbs.zruspas.org - Zruspa's BBS - (2:34/0)

Hello Election,

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------


Regards,
Nick - Region 11

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230205
* Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hello Dallas!

18 Mar 23 02:30, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

I got this message in here from Dallas Hinton Yesterday. Maybe
you didn't recieve it? These are the kludges..

Thanks, Alan -- I hope he got it!

See my NetMail. We'll get to the bottom of it.

Andrew

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Angel!

18 Mar 23 11:23, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

After discussing it with the R34 nodes we have reached the
following vote:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | | X |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Nicholas!

18 Mar 23 06:31, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Andrew Leary | 1:320/219 | X | |
| Carol Shenkenberger | 1:275/100 | | X |
| Nick Andre | 1:229/426 | X | |
| Deon George | 3:633/509 | X | |
| Maurice Kinal | 1:153/7001 | X | |
| mark lewis | 1:3634/12 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Regards,
Nick - Region 11

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20230304
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello.

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------


Best regards,
Marc

--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Sursum Corda! BBS-Huntsville,AL-bbs.sursum-corda.com (1:396/45)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------


Previous sent to wrong address, der.


Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.5/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)

Hello!

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Ciao!
Fabio

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
* Origin: ]\/[imac Rebirth Boss Point (2:335/364.1)

Hello Marc!

11 Mar 24 10:19, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Vincent!

12 Mar 24 00:10, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Previous sent to wrong address, der.

Vincent

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Fabio!

12 Mar 24 08:32, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello all,

------------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | | ------------------------------------------------

Best regards,
Niels
(aka 2:29/0)

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: The Millennium BBS - fido.joncheere.be (2:292/789)

Hello Niels!

17 Mar 24 11:34, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

------------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----| | Rob Swindell
| 1:103/705 | X | |
------------------------------------------------

Best regards,
Niels
(aka 2:29/0)

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Alex Barinov
RC2:50

E-Mail: aleksey.v.barinov AT gmail.com Skype: huba-huba Telegram: @huba715 [Team ü«α«ñáΓδÑ] [F09F87BAF09F87A6]
... éß∩ ó½áßΓ∞ æ«óÑΓá¼!
--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Alex at Home (2:5020/5452)

Hey Alex!

Вся власть Советам!

Російський Sysop, іди до біса!

Life is good,
Maurice

-o o- o- o- -o -o o- o- -o -o -o o- -o o- o- -o
(\ /) /) /) (\ (\ /) /) (\ (\ (\ /) (\ /) /) (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Sorh cymeð manig ond mislic in manna dream.
Sorrow comes in many and various ways amid the joys of men.
--- GNU bash, version 5.2.26(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)

Hello Alex!

18 Mar 24 13:12, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----| | Rob Swindell
| 1:103/705 | X |
| ----------------------------------------------

Alex Barinov
RC2:50

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Election!

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
----------------------------------------------

I don't know him, and I don't know about him. so I can't vote either up or down.

Regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40

--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20240306
* Origin: DVB Station (2:400/2992)

Hello Avshalom!

20 Mar 24 23:10, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
----------------------------------------------

I don't know him, and I don't know about him. so I can't vote either
up or down.

Regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Re: Vote
By: Avshalom Donskoi to Election Coordinator on Wed Mar 20 2024 11:10 pm

Hello Election!

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
----------------------------------------------

I don't know him, and I don't know about him. so I can't vote either up or down.

Regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40

He's the author of SBBS
xxcarol
--- SBBSecho 2.11-Win32
* Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS telnet://shenks.synchro.net (1:275/100)

Hello Carol!

Thursday March 21 2024, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Avshalom Donskoi:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
----------------------------------------------

I don't know him, and I don't know about him. so I can't vote
either up or down.

Regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40

He's the author of SBBS

This is good! The author of the FIDO programs may be in the FTSC.

But I don't know if it's possible to change my voice? If yes, then I vote "yes"!

Regards, Avshalom Donskoi

--- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20240306
* Origin: DVB Station (2:400/2992)

Hello Avshalom!

22 Mar 24 00:10, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

He's the author of SBBS

This is good! The author of the FIDO programs may be in the FTSC.

But I don't know if it's possible to change my voice? If yes, then I
vote "yes"!

The rules do not allow revising your ballot once it is submitted. However, it appears likely that Rob will be easily elected, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Regards,

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Re: Re: Vote
By: Avshalom Donskoi to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Mar 22 2024 12:10 am

Hello Carol!

Thursday March 21 2024, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Avshalom Donskoi:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
----------------------------------------------

I don't know him, and I don't know about him. so I can't vote
either up or down.

Regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40

He's the author of SBBS

This is good! The author of the FIDO programs may be in the FTSC.

But I don't know if it's possible to change my voice? If yes, then I vote "yes"!

Regards, Avshalom Donskoi

Up to the vote taker! My impression was all you did was ask for information.

xxcarol
--- SBBSecho 2.11-Win32
* Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS telnet://shenks.synchro.net (1:275/100)

Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Avshalom Donskoi <=-

Re: Re: Vote
By: Avshalom Donskoi to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Mar 22 2024
12:10 am

Hello Carol!

Thursday March 21 2024, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Avshalom Donskoi:

----------------------------------------------
| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
----------------------------------------------

I don't know him, and I don't know about him. so I can't vote
either up or down.

Regards,
Avshalom Donskoi, RC 2:40

He's the author of SBBS

This is good! The author of the FIDO programs may be in the FTSC.

But I don't know if it's possible to change my voice? If yes, then I vote "yes"!

Regards, Avshalom Donskoi

Up to the vote taker! My impression was all you did was ask for information.

The posted election rules specifically stated that a vote could not be
changed once it was cast.

Seems to me that the OP could/should have done a little research before
he decided he "can't vote either up or down".

<SHRUG>



... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:135/115)

Hello, Dan!

Friday March 22 2024 20:06, from Dan Clough -> Carol Shenkenberger:

| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | | |
I don't know him, and I don't know about him. so I can't vote
either up or down.

I can see an issue here is that the vote is just a Boolean, but someone might prefer the 3rd choice.

This is good! The author of the FIDO programs may be in the FTSC.
But I don't know if it's possible to change my voice? If yes, then
I vote "yes"!

Ah, this gentleman knows how to write code to deal with the @CHRS kludge, where the other popular BBS software namely Mystic BBS has no ideas that there could be life outside of cp437 realm.

Up to the vote taker! My impression was all you did was ask for
information.

Ballot.. My bet is that the new term will ever scratch the surface but just update that fakken fta-1003.

Best Regards, Nil
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240306
* Origin: FidoNet member since 1995 (1:16/101)

Hey Nil!

Mystic BBS has no ideas that there could be life outside of cp437
realm.

Not too much different than the cp866 crowd. Speaking of which, what does the cp866 crowd think about your "KOI8-R 2"?

just update that fakken fta-1003

:-) It is pretty sad that is for sure. How come you're not running for ftsc meembership?

Life is good,
Maurice

o- -o o- o- -o -o -o o- o- o- o- o- o- -o o- o- /) (\ /) /) (\ (\ (\ /) /) /) /) /) /) (\ /) /) ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
--- GNU bash, version 5.2.26(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)

Hello, Maurice!

Saturday March 23 2024 03:35, from Maurice Kinal -> Nil Alexandrov:

Mystic BBS has no ideas that there could be life outside of cp437
realm.

Not too much different than the cp866 crowd.

Oops... my latest patch to GoldED source code has done the thing and deanonymized my $LANG/$LC_ALL environment variable.

FWIW, my recent tests with "KOI8-R 2" vs "CP866 2" revealed, that Z2:R50 folks are not ready to read any Cyrillic outside of DOS encoding back in 90th which is CP866.

Speaking of which, what does the cp866 crowd think about your "KOI8-R
2"?

Well, if you stay within the true ASCII range, which is <127, you can claim any, and I repeat ANY charset aka @CHRS, including utf-8.
I'm writing in 'CP866 2' now and you are reading me well, just as an example.

just update that fakken fta-1003

:-) It is pretty sad that is for sure. How come you're not running
for ftsc meembership?

The "bottle neck" is the Randy Bush's copyright on FTS-0000000000000000001 document, which is the essential onboarding material for those who are looking for the specs to write their FTN comparable s/w and it sux.

Best Regards, Nil
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Hey Nil!

my latest patch to GoldED source code has done the thing

It could work for me but first you need to get utf-8 working before I'd get excighted about it. I have a couple points that can convert utf-8 to whatever REAL 8-bit character set including koi8-{r|u}. It doesn't scare me.

Z2:R50 folks are not ready to read any Cyrillic outside of DOS
encoding back in 90th which is CP866.

The heathen bastards! ;-)

Это для меня китайская грамота.

The "bottle neck" is the Randy Bush's copyright on
FTS-0000000000000000001 document

I could live without it. For sure all the binary crap *should* get the heave-ho. As for encoding utf-8 is the way to go but I don't see it happening soon and I fully plan to exploit it as-is (fts-5003.001). As for fts-0001.016, there are very few hubs that actually support it and haven't for a couple decades now. The document they wish to replace it with isn't any better methinks.

Life is good,
Maurice

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This day, have patience in every affliction.
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Nil,

The "bottle neck" is the Randy Bush's copyright on
FTS-0000000000000000001 document, ...

I haven't researched it but I'm pretty sure copyrights are being broken in Fidonet at different levels .... that's the anarchistic beauty of it.

Without producing something entirely new or breaking copyrights, advancement is a challenge.

So, in this case the copyright-thing is merely an excuse to not do anything.

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20230201
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Hey Ward!

I haven't researched it but I'm pretty sure copyrights are being
broken in Fidonet at different levels

Which documents have copyrights belonging to third parties? It should be the ftsc that holds any copyrights. No?

So, in this case the copyright-thing is merely an excuse to not
do anything.

For who? I would hope that any document standing in the way would be properly addressed so that these people have only their lack of knowledge to use as an excuse for doing nothing.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o -o -o o- o- o- o- o- o- o- -o -o -o -o o- -o
(\ (\ (\ /) /) /) /) /) /) /) (\ (\ (\ (\ /) (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Leorna lare lærgedefe, wene þec in wisdom.
Learn lessons fit for learning, train yourself in wisdom.
--- GNU bash, version 5.2.26(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)

Maurice,

Which documents have copyrights belonging to third parties? It should be the ftsc that holds any copyrights. No?

1) The FTSC is not a legal entity, it cannot own anything;
2) Every time someone writes something, there's a copyright on it. I wrote something in this echo, you responded to my copyrighted message without formally asking me permission to quote from it ... violation ...

A lot of people have their mouths full of doing something useful, contribute to the cause ... in my case that would mean come on over and give my living room a fresh coat of paint ... not the Mr.Bean style. There will be beer, the best beer.

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20230201
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Hej Ward!

I like the no quoting thing you propose. That simplifies everything. You can quote me on that.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

o- -o o- o-
/) (\ /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Fidonet 1080p - De vier pinguïns van de Apocalyps
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Maurice,




I really like this ...

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20230201
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Hey Ward!

I am left wondering about the REPLY kludge given it is stripped from your MSGID not unlike quoting which by your proposal looks to be a violation. For the record I could easily live without it.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o o- -o -o o- -o o- -o o- o- o- -o -o o- -o -o
(\ /) (\ (\ /) (\ /) (\ /) /) /) (\ (\ /) (\ (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Ne hopa ðu to oþres monnes deaðe; uncuð hwa lengest libbe.
Do not hope for another man's death; it is unknown who will live longest. --- GNU bash, version 5.2.26(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)

Maurice,

I am left wondering about the REPLY kludge given it is stripped from your MSGID ...

Hmmmm ... that's a newone ... a MSGID "with" a REPLY-kludge? You have to explain that to me. I always thought these were 2 separate unrelated lines...

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20230201
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Hej Ward!

For a complete breakdown of MSGID/REPLY see fts-0009.001. They are seperate lines but are related since in order to create a REPLY a MSGID for the msg one is replying to is critical. There should be no REPLY without a MSGID. The REPLY kludge contained in this reply (without quotes) was obtained from your last msg addressed to me and is traceable back to the original nonreply msg which has a MSGID but no REPLY since it wasn't an actual reply.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

-o -o -o -o
(\ (\ (\ (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Fidonet 1080p - De vier pinguïns van de Apocalyps
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Maurice,

You're beginning to sound like my mother, a little bit also like Wilfred, explaining me the obvious as if I were a total newbee and/or ignorant.

These are the MSGID/REPLY kludges from my last three messages to you in this conference.

Date: 23 Mar 24 17:43:07
MSGID: 2:292/854 182d1c21
REPLY: 1:153/7001 65fec6dc

Date: 23 Mar 24 18:22:47
MSGID: 2:292/854 19194667
REPLY: 2:280/464.113 65ff0d7a

Date: 24 Mar 24 00:23:44
MSGID: 2:292/854 071a442b
REPLY: 1:153/7001 65ff1722

Nothing wrong there, right?

And this is the MSGID/REPLY kludge from your message I am responding to:

Date: 24 Mar 24 00:20:09
REPLY: 2:292/854 071a442b
MSGID: 2:280/464.113 65ff71b9

Please compare that to what's in the header of this message. Seems purrrfectly OK to me, my cat would say (if I had one).

If there is an issue you need to be more specific because I'm not seeing it. However, if something indeed is missing when it arrives at your system then I suggest the following things:

a) I notice one time you're writing from a node-address and the next time you're writing from a point-address. Buggy configurations?

b) Buggy Linux-software? You're a Linux-guy and I guess my messages here reach you via Wilfred, who is also a Linux-guy ...

Within a few minutes Wilfred will respond with a more in-depth analyses...

Enjoy the week-end,

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20230201
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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------


Thanks,
Jay

... Did anyone ever figure out whether it's duck season or rabbit season?
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
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Hello Jay!

24 Mar 24 04:39, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No | |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Thanks,
Jay

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hey Ward!

You failed to answer the question which had nothing to do with fts-0009.001 from a technical pov.

If nobody is allowed to quote your MSGs without your permission then is the REPLY part, which is copied from your MSGID not the same as quoting without permission? This is not a technical question.

As for my differing addresses they are both valid and I have access to both in order to test these sorts of ideas, hence the differing configurations. Also they are two independent machines. Also, also have two other machines with their own point addresses off of this node which I can easily alter to suit whatever testing I care to come up with, most of which has nothing to do with fidonet or anything like it. Most of my software is geared towards development (compilers, interpretors, shells, etc). Dealing with people, such as yourself, has always been a weak spot with me.

I look forward to Wilfred's reply.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Joys are departed; weaker ones now live and hold the world.
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Hello $MUSER!!

LOL

--
../|ug

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Hej August!

I think it might be the best REPLY ever ... or at least in this particular echoarea.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

-o -o -o -o
(\ (\ (\ (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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The Region 13 Ballot submitted below is based on feedback
by Region 13 sysops that participated in a poll.

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Respectfully submitted representing Region 13,

Region 13 Coordinator - Michael Luko

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Hello Michael!

29 Mar 24 01:11, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

The Region 13 Ballot submitted below is based on feedback
by Region 13 sysops that participated in a poll.

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

Respectfully submitted representing Region 13,

Region 13 Coordinator - Michael Luko

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------
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Hello Kurt!

29 Mar 24 07:39, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

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| Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
|----------------------|-------------|----|----|
| Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
----------------------------------------------

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)