• 2022 FTSC Standing Member Election Vote from R17

    From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Andrew Leary on Tuesday, March 08, 2022 12:15:22
    Hi, Andrew -- on Mar 08 2022 at 13:51, you wrote:

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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | | | | |
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
    | James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
    | Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
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    Cheers... Dallas (RC17)

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Election Coordinator on Thursday, March 10, 2022 12:35:53
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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | | | | |
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | X | |
    | James Coyle | 1:129/215 | X | |
    | Tim Schattkowsky | 2:2/29 | | |
    ----------------------------------------------


    Cheers... Dallas
    RC17

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Dan Clough on Friday, March 11, 2022 16:29:02
    Hi Dan!

    11 Mar 2022 07:34, from Dan Clough -> Shaun Buzza:

    There is a reason that real-world politics count abstentions
    along with yes and no votes. It has to be a majority vote; the
    majority of *all* votes, including abstentions, must be either
    yes or no.
    This is not correct, at least for elections that I'm familiar with,
    in the USA. We count *ONLY* YES votes. You do not need a majority
    of all votes, you simply need more YES votes than the number of YES
    votes that your opponent gets. That's it. There are no NO votes, and
    there are millions of abstentions, which just means.... nothing.

    Same in Austria.
    But I guess he is just trolling.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Richard Menedetter on Friday, March 11, 2022 16:10:10
    Same in Austria.
    But I guess he is just trolling.


    Asking for clarification from the person who is in charge is 'trolling' in Austria? Or, did you mean, continuing to discuss the issue when people who are not in charge join in?

    Believe me, sir, this is not trolling, at least on my part. I daresay I'm
    being quite civil. For instance, I haven't resorted to name-calling. (o_O)

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Shaun Buzza on Friday, March 11, 2022 22:35:02
    For instance, I haven't resorted to name-calling. (o_O)

    What's in a name? You took a typo by Richard and mildly ridiculed him for it ....

    ***************************************************************************** Richard> time, but now you habe it.

    You> No, sir, I do not habe it. *****************************************************************************

    We stopped jumping on typo's when the one whose name we can't mention, kicked the bucket.

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  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Ward Dossche on Friday, March 11, 2022 19:41:43
    For instance, I haven't resorted to name-calling. (o_O)

    What's in a name? You took a typo by Richard and mildly ridiculed him
    for it ....

    There is a big difference between giving a guy a mild ribbing, and being a troll. (o_O)

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dan Clough on Sunday, March 13, 2022 00:42:00
    On 03-12-22 08:54, Dan Clough <=-
    spoke to Shaun Buzza about Re: 2022 FTSC Standing Me <=-

    Well, in effect it would be, sort of. But, that wasn't the point. I
    was debating your claim that in real-world politics, "no" votes and abstentions are counted. They are not, because there *ARE* no "no" votes. When I look at my election ballot, I can choose to vote for
    *ONE* candidate, which is a "yes" vote. There is no choice to pencil
    in for a "no" vote. It is NOT a majority vote to win an election. It
    is simply a matter of getting more YES votes than your opponent(s). Which is what I said there above...

    In some cases, it takes a majority to win an election. That can happen
    when according to the rules if no candidate has a majority, then there
    is a run off between the top two.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Andre Robitaille on Sunday, March 13, 2022 00:45:02
    On 03-12-22 09:56, Andre Robitaille <=-
    spoke to Dan Clough about Re: 2022 FTSC Standing Me <=-

    What Shaun is describing is called an "absolute majority,"
    where the 'yes' votes need to be one more than half of the
    eligible voters.

    And that is always a rule for disaster for any organization.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)





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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, March 13, 2022 09:48:43
    What Shaun is describing is called an "absolute majority,"
    where the 'yes' votes need to be one more than half of the
    eligible voters.

    And that is always a rule for disaster for any organization.

    Yes ... 100% ....

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, March 13, 2022 09:53:00
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Well, in effect it would be, sort of. But, that wasn't the point. I
    was debating your claim that in real-world politics, "no" votes and abstentions are counted. They are not, because there *ARE* no "no"
    votes. When I look at my election ballot, I can choose to vote for
    *ONE* candidate, which is a "yes" vote. There is no choice to pencil
    in for a "no" vote. It is NOT a majority vote to win an election. It
    is simply a matter of getting more YES votes than your opponent(s).
    Which is what I said there above...

    In some cases, it takes a majority to win an election. That can
    happen when according to the rules if no candidate has a
    majority, then there is a run off between the top two.

    This is true, now that you mention it. I have seen that happen a few
    times. I think it's usually in more minor/smaller elections such as a
    state legislature or state/local position of some kind.



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Sunday, March 13, 2022 20:52:26
    What Shaun is describing is called an "absolute majority,"
    where the 'yes' votes need to be one more than half of the
    eligible voters.

    And that is always a rule for disaster for any organization.

    Yes ... 100% ....

    Surely it's possible to rig elections, so that you can win even if you don't get an absolute majority? It happens all the time in fascist countries, when they have e.g. presidential elections...



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