• Brexit -- hindsight 2020

    From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Paul Quinn on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    On 3/02/2021 23:02, 3640/1384 wrote:

    Then I have another shot of the incohol...

    For some reason I thought that you abstained from such behaviour...

    I'll have to bring some rum net time I call by...

    :)

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    David

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to David Drummond on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hi! David,

    On 06 Feb 2021, David Drummond said the following...

    Then I have another shot of the incohol...
    For some reason I thought that you abstained from such behaviour...

    I don't do donkeypiss. (Only ever was one good beer '1982 XXXX Gold', IIRC. Or was it '88?)

    I'll have to bring some rum net time I call by...
    :)

    Mmm. Yes... a motel frige Vodka bottle would be great. I need a mixer for
    my usual Pygmie (short Black Russian). I'm doing them 'neat' these days/nights. Please.

    DD> Thunderbi * Origin: Chinchilla, QLD, Oz (3:640/305)

    WTF are you doing there? Rock hunting?

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to David Drummond on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Maybe the tourists took them :)

    On Feb 07, 2021 01:00pm, David Drummond wrote to Paul Quinn:

    On 6/02/2021 22:02, 3640/1384 wrote:

    I checked Google later.  There are actually petrified tree rocks
    there...

    I wonder where they hide them. No sign of them in the main street...

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    David

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to All on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Now that we for the first time in human history can have a true hindsight vision of 20 20, I was reminded of what it was like when I was called to make service on ships unfortunately stranded in east Germany.

    At the border, we always knew that we would have to spend at least 12 hours, so we always had covers and pillows handy when trying to pass.

    Now, as the east/west border of Germany is history, the England/Europe ditto seems to be emerging?

    https://youtu.be/06uaTPx_LqI





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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hello Björn,

    On Wednesday February 03 2021 12:19, you wrote to All:

    Now, as the east/west border of Germany is history, the
    England/Europe ditto seems to be emerging?

    https://youtu.be/06uaTPx_LqI

    The Brittish have choosen to no longer be a member of the EU. So they shouldn't whine if they have to follow the rules for non members.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hi! Michiel,

    On 03 Feb 2021, Michiel van der Vlist said to Björn...

    The Brittish have choosen to no longer be a member of the EU. So they shouldn't whine if they have to follow the rules for non members.

    I am having wonderous dreams of the time when Doggerland reemerges from the North Sea.

    :)

    Then I have another shot of the incohol...

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Paul Quinn on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hello Paul,

    On Wednesday February 03 2021 23:02, you wrote to me:

    The Brittish have choosen to no longer be a member of the EU. So
    they shouldn't whine if they have to follow the rules for non
    members.

    I am having wonderous dreams of the time when Doggerland reemerges
    from the North Sea.

    Dream on. Doggerland has sunk beneath the waves forever. But... England is drifting towards the US. So there is hope fo the return of Altantis. ;-)

    Then I have another shot of the incohol...

    Prisot!


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hello Michiel,

    Now, as the east/west border of Germany is history, the
    England/Europe ditto seems to be emerging?

    https://youtu.be/06uaTPx_LqI

    MvdV> The Brittish have choosen to no longer be a member of the EU. So they
    MvdV> shouldn't whine if they have to follow the rules for non members.

    The British claim to the northern part of Ireland will be
    relinquished as the Republic of Ireland remains part of the
    EU. Catholics now comprise a majority of the population,
    easily outnumbering Protestants.

    Scotland is already threatening to declare independence.
    Wales may follow. Northern Ireland will simply cease to exist,
    as it becomes part of the Republic of Ireland.

    Maybe London will become a modern independent city-state.
    Kind of like Singapore. Or Monaco. Or Vatican City. And then
    rejoin the EU as a contributing member. In fact, I can almost
    guarantee it, as over 60% of Londoners voted against Brexit.

    https://www.futuresplatform.com/blog/city-states-wave-future


    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hello Björn,

    Now that we for the first time in human history can have a true hindsight vision of 20 20, I was reminded of what it was like when I was called to make service on ships unfortunately stranded in east Germany.

    The USA used airplanes to save folks stranded in Berlin.

    At the border, we always knew that we would have to spend at least 12 hours,
    so we always had covers annd pillows handy when trying to pass.

    Airplanes are much faster, and do not need to anchor at sea.

    Now, as the east/west border of Germany is history, the England/Europe ditto
    seems to be emerging?

    https://youtu.be/06uaTPx_LqI


    Historically, it has always been England vs The Continent.
    Even during WWII, the British looked at themselves as being
    apart from those who lived on the continent of Europe.

    What will happen next is the reunification of Ireland, which
    remains part of the EU. Catholics now outnumber Protestants in
    the northern part of Ireland, so this will come sooner rather
    than later.

    Scotland will declare its own independence, and then Wales ...

    --Lee

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hello Lee,

    On Wednesday February 03 2021 17:27, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> The Brittish have choosen to no longer be a member of the EU.
    MvdV>> So they shouldn't whine if they have to follow the rules for
    MvdV>> non members.

    The British claim to the northern part of Ireland will be relinquished
    as the Republic of Ireland remains part of the EU. Catholics now
    comprise a majority of the population, easily outnumbering
    Protestants.

    While I agree that The reunification of both Irelands is unavoidable in the end, I think that a lot of water will have to flow through the Foyle before that happens.

    For starters: it isn't as simple as Protestants vs Catholics. Not all Catholics are in favour of reunification and not all Protestants are against. While there is substantial overlap, it is better to speak of Unionists vs Republicans. Als laid down in the GFA, the people in Northern Ireland have a right to hold a referendum about separating from the UK and joining the Republic of Ireland. If a referendum were held today, it would most likely end in favour of a reunion.

    Other than that, I think the present arrangement with Northern Ireland remaining part of the EU Customs Union but politially remaining part of the UK, with a border in the Irish Sea and no land border in Ireland is not a concept that is going to work in the long run.
    In the end the Unionists will have to accept that this relic of the Brittish Colonial Empire will come to an end just like all other relics of that era. They will have to accept that they will have to choose between living in the Irish Republic or move (back) to what remains of the United Kingdom.

    I am afraid they won't let go peacefully. Old wounds will be teared open and the "Troubles" may return. I hope not, I hope that those concerned will be pragmatic enough to not let it come to that, but I am not going to hold my breath..

    I love Ireland. I really hope the transition will be peaceful.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:20
    Hello Ward,

    If a referendum were held
    today, it would most likely end in favour of a reunion.

    And a restart of the violence?

    You know Ireland better ...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/a-referendum-on-irish-unity- is-coming-whether-we-like-it-or-not-1.4454681


    --Lee

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