• USA vs Sweden

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hello Everybody,

    Which country will win the race to the bottom?
    Will it be the USA, led by the orange clown?
    Or will it be Sweden, led by nobody in charge?
    Here are the mortality rates pertaining to coronavirus -

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality


    Notice the very close contest between the US and Sweden -

    Country | Confirmed Cases | Deaths | Case-Fatality | Deaths/100K Pop.
    USA 6,396,551 191,766 3.0% 58.61
    Sweden 86,194 5,843 6.8% 57.38

    You read that right. Swedes are dying twice as fast as Americans.
    It will not take long for Swedes to overcome the numbers shown above.
    With that in mind, the editor of the Fidonews should take note to
    mask up, and always wash his hands after touching his keyboard.

    --Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Which country will win the race to the bottom?
    Will it be the USA, led by the orange clown?
    Or will it be Sweden, led by nobody in charge?

    My bet is on the country that does not filter the stats:

    https://tinyurl.com/y946d8eq

    You read that right. Swedes are dying twice as fast as Americans.
    It will not take long for Swedes to overcome the numbers shown above.

    It's the other way around. Sweden was leading USA for a long time, before the US caught up -- when they no longer could hide the true numbers. Dead people always count -- no matter how hard you try to hide them.

    With that in mind, the editor of the Fidonews should take note to
    mask up, and always wash his hands after touching his keyboard.

    No worries mate. Like most Swedes I am taking mask-on and social distancing very seriously. We don't need a Bunker Boy to tell us what to do, we knew from the start (in January) that this was serious business.

    As the professionals say: we'll not know the true numbers for at least a year or two from now...




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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Bj”rn Felten on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    On 12/09/2020 04:39, 2203/2 wrote:
    [...]
     LL>> Or will it be Sweden, led by nobody in charge?

       My bet is on the country that does not filter the stats:
    [...]

    Are you and Lee the only two left alive in FidoNet (well, me too I suppose, I am browsing here)?

    Or is everyone locked down, even from their keyboards?

    Damn it's quiet - in the real world and in here.

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    David

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Damn it's quiet - in the real world and in here.

    Yes, it is. Almost entirely automated robot postings nowadays. Maybe it's time to call it quits, turn off the lights and go home?




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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Bj÷rn Felten on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hello Björn,

    Damn it's quiet - in the real world and in here.

    Yes, it is. Almost entirely automated robot postings nowadays. Maybe it's time to call it quits, turn off the lights and go home?

    Just about. Even in the politics echoes traffic is slow.
    Even turtles cross the road at a faster pace.

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    On 13/09/2020 09:43, 2203/2 wrote:

     DD>>> Damn it's quiet - in the real world and in here.

     BF>> Yes, it is. Almost entirely automated robot postings nowadays. Maybe it's
     BF>> time to call it quits, turn off the lights and go home?

    Just about. Even in the politics echoes traffic is slow.
    Even turtles cross the road at a faster pace.

    And pray tell, why do the turtles cross the road?

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    David

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gerrit Kuehn on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hello Gerrit,

    Damn it's quiet - in the real world and in here.

    I'm pretty sure other virtual communities thrive as a consequence of lockdowns and distancing. Actually, I was hoping to see something like that
    in FidoNet a few months ago when this all started. However, it didn't happen. Draw your own conclusions.

    I expect the internet to die out within the next few years, if not
    sooner. The pandemic, along with vaccines and innoculations, etc. will
    take at least another year before anything approaching normal exists.
    Colleges and universities have become the new hot spots, along with
    other schools of learning. Many people here are no longer paying any
    attention to whatever mandates are issued by governors or others.

    Herd Immunity Threshhold. That is the de facto policy of the Trump administration. Do as little as possible to prevent people from getting
    sick. Have covid parties (Trump rallies). Allow for football games with
    lots of people (without wearing masks) in stands. Open restaurants and
    let everybody dine on whatever they like indoors so they can at least
    have a good meal before they die.

    The forest fires raging out west will continue to march eastward,
    and all the houses will be destroyed in the process.

    After we lose about 70% of our population, we might have enough land
    available for Russians to come over and build new houses. And that will
    be good for business ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hello David,

    Damn it's quiet - in the real world and in here.

    Yes, it is. Almost entirely automated robot postings nowadays. Maybe
    it's
    time to call it quits, turn off the lights and go home?

    Just about. Even in the politics echoes traffic is slow.
    Even turtles cross the road at a faster pace.

    And pray tell, why do the turtles cross the road?

    To get to the other side.
    Before the rabbit beat them to it.

    --Lee

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 13.09.2020 21:53

    LL> The forest fires raging out west will continue to march
    LL> eastward, and all the houses will be destroyed in the process.
    LL> After we lose about 70% of our population, we might have enough
    LL> land available for Russians to come over and build new houses.
    LL> And that will be good for business ...

    Don't be so despair! ;-) It will end soon. Actually, SAR and SAR2(covid)
    are similar viruses, and they live according the same rules. The only difference between them is the level of transmissibility (and SAR2 is
    much less deadly). As the rezult SAR had developed on Earth in a much
    smaller area and died itself, and all the vaccines against SAR appeared
    to be useless waste of money.

    In other words SAR2 is a scaled replica of SAR. It will die after people
    in the area (Earth in the SAR2 case) become exposed to the virus for
    necessary time. After that the epidemic ends.

    Cheers! ;)

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin

    fido7.fidonews 2020

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hello Alexander,

    The forest fires raging out west will continue to march
    eastward, and all the houses will be destroyed in the process.
    After we lose about 70% of our population, we might have enough
    land available for Russians to come over and build new houses.
    And that will be good for business ...

    Don't be so despair! ;-) It will end soon. Actually, SAR and SAR2(covid) are similar viruses, and they live according the same rules. The only difference between them is the level of transmissibility (and SAR2 is
    much less deadly). As the rezult SAR had developed on Earth in a much smaller area and died itself, and all the vaccines against SAR appeared
    to be useless waste of money.

    Well, it is true we were saved by the Obamanation last time.
    But this is the Trumpoverse, and everything is turning burnt orange.

    In other words SAR2 is a scaled replica of SAR. It will die after people in the area (Earth in the SAR2 case) become exposed to the virus for necessary time. After that the epidemic ends.

    The forest fire is giving America an orange glow. At some point there
    will be nothing left to burn. And you know what that means. The virus
    will then have no place to run, and no place to hide. The epidemic ends
    and Donald Trump will posthumously be declared Savior of the World.

    --Lee

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hi, Dale Shipp!
    I read your message from 15.09.2020 22:56

    AK>> In other words SAR2 is a scaled replica of SAR. It will die
    AK>> after people in the area (Earth in the SAR2 case) become
    AK>> exposed to the virus for necessary time. After that the
    AK>> epidemic ends.
    DS> And by then, millions of people will have died from it. Many
    DS> more will have lasting effects from the infection.

    It depends on the methods they count covid deaths. I had already told
    you here that if, in the last year, the current covid death counting
    method would have been applied to the people who died just _WITH_ flu
    virus we will see flu as the most awful epidemic. In other words, the
    high numbers of covid deaths are artificial. WHO demands that every dead person should be considered killed by covid if the virus found in the
    body. It is utterly wrong and misleading and makes unnecessary panic.

    In short, in this year, enormous part of deaths caused by many other
    deseases are artificially attributed to covid. It becomes a bugaboo in
    this way. This statement can be checked easily -- for instance, if we
    look the numbers of deaths of common (not covid) versions of pneumonia
    we will see a very small number of them. It it a lie of the statistic.

    Bye, Dale!
    Alexander Koryagin

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    Hello Dale,

    In other words SAR2 is a scaled replica of SAR. It will die after
    people in the area (Earth in the SAR2 case) become exposed to the
    virus for necessary time. After that the epidemic ends.

    And by then, millions of people will have died from it. Many more will have lasting effects from the infection.

    Nobody came up with a vaccine for the Spanish Flu.
    And yet the human race survived.
    The same is likely to happen with COVID=19.
    We might be told about a vaccine.
    That does not mean there is or will be one
    that is safe and effective.

    With the Spanish Flu, a person gets it,
    24 hours later that person is dead.

    With COVID-19, a person gets it,
    three or four weeks later that person is dead.

    Other than that ...

    --Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:15
    More accurate would be to say the person died of complications
    due to COVID-19, rather than of COVID-19 itself.

    More accurate would be to keep records of how many excessive deaths you have, compared to any other, normal year. That's what we do in Sweden.

    Of course it means that we seem to have a lot of deaths, but at least we think we can contribute them properly.

    As our chief expert said: we only have the true numbers many years away from now...


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