• The metric system

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Wayne Harris on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    But let's ask this. Must the population change their units because
    pilots might get things wrong? I'd think the pilots should change join the standard and let people drink their pint of beer.

    Good point. No, it's no longer a matter of life and death -- most people that matters know perfectly well that the US struggles to maintain their own measures.

    Nowadays it's much more a matter of global communications in the social community. Take for instance Youtube videos about cooking. When the "recipe" calls for Fahrenheit, Cups, Pounds, Ounces and whatever, it addresses less than 4% of the world -- and most of the up-loaders aren't even aware of this? They think that they are using global units?

    The Imperial System is the one thing that divides USA from the rest of the world. Ask yourself, who benefits from this? Follow the dollar...



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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    Hello Björn,

    On Wednesday August 19 2020 05:49, you wrote to Wayne Harris:

    Nowadays it's much more a matter of global communications in the
    social community. Take for instance Youtube videos about cooking. When
    the "recipe" calls for Fahrenheit, Cups, Pounds, Ounces and whatever,
    it addresses less than 4% of the world -- and most of the up-loaders aren't even aware of this? They think that they are using global
    units?

    Good point.

    When I see a recipe using non-metric units, I just move on. I am of course capable of doing the conversion, but it is just not worth the effort. Recipes are not a scarce commodity, I can easely find one using metric units...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Fabio Bizzi on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    Hello Fabio,

    On Wednesday August 19 2020 11:19, you wrote to me:

    Good point. When I see a recipe using non-metric units, I just
    move on. I am of course capable of doing the conversion, but it
    is just not worth the effort. Recipes are not a scarce commodity,
    I can easely find one using metric units...

    But doing in this way you miss the Janis's recipes.

    When she want a wider audience for her recipes nothing stops her from publishing them with SI units too, does it?

    And let me say that it's a real sin, them are delicious! (said by an Italian used to eat Italian food.) ;)

    Janis has Italian roots.

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wayne Harris on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    Hello Wayne,

    On Wednesday August 19 2020 19:03, you wrote to me:

    When I see a recipe using non-metric units, I just move on. I am of
    course capable of doing the conversion, but it is just not worth the
    effort. Recipes are not a scarce commodity, I can easely find one
    using metric units...

    Exactly. That's the market doing its job.

    That may work for recipes, it does not work the well wen deciding to board an aircraft or not...

    I will answer to your other post later when I have more time.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    Hello Björn,

    [..]

    ... the US struggles to maintain their own measures.

    What we have is an international mixture of measurements.
    There are even differences between the Imperial and US Customary
    systems of weights and measures. Thomas Jefferson wrote about
    some of those differences, noting 14 different definitions of
    gallons ranging from 224 cubic inches to 282 cubic inches.
    The US Treasury picked the Queen Anne Gallon, the second
    smallest gallon on that list.

    So how much is a gallon? Better yet, how much is a pint?
    I guarantee you, an American pint and a British pint are
    most definitely not the same!

    Nowadays it's much more a matter of global communications in the social community.

    We may see the whole world agree on a one-world system of
    measurement. Just like we may see the whole world agree on
    a one-world language. Think it will really happen anytime
    soon? Don't bet your life on it.

    Take for instance Youtube videos about cooking.

    That's right. Others have to be shown what to do.

    When the "recipe" calls for Fahrenheit, Cups, Pounds, Ounces and whatever, it addresses less than 4% of the world -- and most of the up-loaders aren't
    even aware of this?

    Please forgive them. They do not realize what they do.

    They think that they are using global units?

    The international commodity market uses the barrel as its main
    unit of measure for trading things like oil. A barrel is 159 liters,
    or 42 customary gallons. Queen Anne Gallons. As defined by the US
    Department of the Treasury.

    The Imperial System is the one thing that divides USA from the rest of the world. Ask yourself, who benefits from this? Follow the dollar...

    Get this through your thick Swedish skull -

    A gallon is not a gallon and a pint is not a pint!
    Why do you think Americans revolted against the British
    so many years ago?

    The last time the British tried to redefine their version
    of a gallon (and thus their pint) was in 1960. And they still
    haven't got it right.

    Some things never change ...

    --Lee

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    Because not everyone likes licorice

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    Hello Michiel,

    Nowadays it's much more a matter of global communications in the
    social community. Take for instance Youtube videos about cooking. When
    the "recipe" calls for Fahrenheit, Cups, Pounds, Ounces and whatever,
    it addresses less than 4% of the world -- and most of the up-loaders
    aren't even aware of this? They think that they are using global
    units?

    MvdV> Good point.

    Not really. There are other methods that work just as well, or better.

    MvdV> When I see a recipe using non-metric units, I just move on.

    Why? You really should expand your horizons.

    MvdV> I am of course capable of doing the conversion, but it is just not worth the
    MvdV> effort.

    You are being ridiculous.

    MvdV> Recipes are not a scarce commodity, I can easely find one using metric
    MvdV> units...

    I do not need the metric system in order to prepare a meal.
    I do not need the imperial system in order to prepare a meal.
    Using my hand, along with my fingers, is all I really need
    in order to measure units, or prepare a meal. So why use
    anything else?

    For liquid measurements, I like to use a shot glass.
    I have several made of glass, but also some made of metal
    as glass tends to be very brittle and does not last very
    long when dropped on the floor.

    A baseball, tennis ball, and deck of cards also helps.
    But none of those items are really necessary.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Fabio Bizzi on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    Hello Fabio,

    Good point. When I see a recipe using non-metric units, I just
    move on. I am of course capable of doing the conversion, but it is
    just not worth the effort. Recipes are not a scarce commodity, I
    can easely find one using metric units...

    But doing in this way you miss the Janis's recipes.

    Use your hand. The only truly international measurement method around.

    And let me say that it's a real sin, them are delicious! (said by an Italian
    used to eat Italian food.) ;)

    (Sorry for the off-topic) :)

    Write an article!
    Send it in for the Fidonews!
    Then it will be ON-TOPIC!

    Imagine the impact your Italian food can have!
    I'll have to send in my own Sicilian food recipes to save us!
    Maybe even some of my Cajun recipes ...

    --Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 07:49:14
    Global units. What are global units? The imperial system is used throughout the world. The metric system is also used throughout the
    world. There are also other systems that are used throughout the
    world. So what makes a system truly global?

    Sorry to blast your bubble. No, your imperial system is *NOT* used throughout the world. You are confusing "used" with "knowing about it but shaking head and ignoring it".

    What makes the metric system truly global? The global standardization committee of course! Duh! It's called the SI because of it's international origin (not related to the oranges that your illiterate POTUS is talking about over and over again, mind you).

    The International System of Units = the modern form of the metric system. In all the schools around the world (except in one country) this is the system that the next generations are taught.



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