Hello Dale,

[..]

-- no wonder USA is
best in the world when it comes to spreading the corona
virus... :(

That distinction comes from the top and the lack of leadership there.

I beg to differ. The Trump administration has been the most pro-virus
team on the face of this planet. Just look at the results. No where
else can the virus run wild and free as the USA. And I mean no where.

--Lee

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You say "I beg to differ" and then you agree with what I said.
Was up with that?

Oh, c'mon. Was my impersonation of Trump really that bad?

Well, I for one would give you a 3 out 10. That means that your sarcasm went over the heads of 70% of the listeners.



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As I said before to you, the career civil servents cannot be fired on a whim -- it takes serious charges to do so.

I remember that. But I didn't know about your Plum Book. How much down from the top does it grasp. What if, for instance the POTUS where to appoint the highest AG with a new one (Barr) that *could* fire any state AG in the middle of an investigation against the president?

Wouldn't that sound almost like... yeah... like fascism?

Methinks you have a severe problem with your constitution, and it's the Bunker Boy that should make you aware of it. Please proceed with care before it's to late...


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Hello Dale,

On Tuesday July 21 2020 00:34, you wrote to BjöRn Felten:

I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.

Because it is impossible to change it and adding amendments is vey difficult. When push comes to shove that rigidity may turn out to be a weakness. It can not be adapted to a rapidly changing world.

A basic weakness of democracy is that it can turn itself into a dictatoship if that is what the majority wants. You (plural) keep saying that in the US there are checks and balances that prevent that. I do not share your confidence. On the contrary, I wonder if that accident in slow motion isn't exactly what we are watching right now... :(

And no, I am not saying it can not happen here....


Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> And no, I am not saying it can not happen here....

I second that (here in Sweden). It's so easy to topple a government without even firing a single shot. :(



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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.

Because it is impossible to change it and adding amendments is
vey difficult.

Very contradictory "sentence" there. Is it *impossible* to
change, or is it *very difficult* to change? You do know that an
amendment is a change, right?

When push comes to shove that rigidity may turn out to be a weakness.
It can not be adapted to a rapidly changing world.

Another incorrect statement. It has been adapted 27 times to a
changing world.

A basic weakness of democracy is that it can turn itself into a dictatoship if that is what the majority wants. You (plural) keep
saying that in the US there are checks and balances that prevent
that.

Very true (the checks and balances). Also, the USA is technically
not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. Yes, there is
a difference.


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Hello Björn,

You say "I beg to differ" and then you agree with what I said.
Was up with that?

Oh, c'mon. Was my impersonation of Trump really that bad?

Well, I for one would give you a 3 out 10. That means that your sarcasm went
over the heads of 70% of the listeners.

Sarcasm? What sarcasm? Impersonating the most famous person in
the world is a *huge* compliment! Just think of the accolades one
receives for having done it well! Don't believe me? Just ask
Rich Little, the man of a thousand voices. His legion of fans
will tell you. And do you know who his biggest supporter is?
Yep. You guessed it. The Man himself, Donald Trump!

Of course, typing messages on screen is not quite the same
thing as ranting like a madman, and I do not pretend to have
a thousand voices like Rich Little, but still ...

--Lee

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Hello Michiel,

I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.

MvdV> Because it is impossible to change it and adding amendments is vey
MvdV> difficult.

That is not completely true. While amendments are part of the
US Constitution, it is possible to change it by having a constitutional convention. The way that works is delegates get rid of the old and
bring in the new. The new constitution would replace the old upon
ratification by the states.

MvdV> When push comes to shove that rigidity may turn out to be a weakness. It can
MvdV> not be adapted to a rapidly changing world.

The US Constitution has been amended 27 times to date. While it is
a difficult and time-consuming process, it is possible to add more.

MvdV> A basic weakness of democracy is that it can turn itself into a dictatoship
MvdV> if that is what the majority wants. You (plural) keep saying that in the US
MvdV> there are checks and balances that prevent that. I do not share your
MvdV> confidence. On the contrary, I wonder if that accident in slow motion isn't
MvdV> exactly what we are watching right now... :(

The problem with democracies is its reliance on norms, not laws or institutions, to keep things going. As long as all political actors
have absorbed the norms that make things work, all is fine. But with
a madman in charge, with his lackeys enabling his every move, along
with a compliant news media, all bets are off.

MvdV> And no, I am not saying it can not happen here....

Democracies are very fragile. Especially when a madman is in charge.

--Lee

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Hello Dan,

I think that the USA constitution is doing just fine, in spite of how
it is getting strained lately. After all it has lasted intact more
than almost any other country's constitution.

Because it is impossible to change it and adding amendments is
vey difficult.

Very contradictory "sentence" there. Is it *impossible* to
change, or is it *very difficult* to change? You do know that an amendment is a change, right?

Amendments are part of the US Contitution, dimwit.

--Lee

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Hello Ward,

Actually, I know far less of your government than you and most Europeans
know about the USA government. I know more about the British Government
than that of other European countries, probably because I lived there
for three years.

England is not Europe. They are nothing else but an island which due to continental drift is moving towards the USA or Canada.

So is Australia. Just imagine what will happen when Australia
and Europe collide, with the USA and Canada getting crunched in
the middle.

--Lee

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Hello Gerrit,

England is not Europe.

This is quite a tautology, being true for any country apart from England itself.

The British have never considered England as being a part of Europe,
as the island they live on is not part of the continent.

The Irish do not consider themselves as being British, and even
chose to remain neutral during the world wars. And do be sure
never to insult an Irishman by offering him anything but true and
authentic Irish coffee.

They are nothing else but an island

Nope, England is a part of an island (the other parts being Scotland and Wales) which is by the way part of the European continent.

It has always been England vs The Continent.

--Lee

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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

>WD> Just be glad lefties run Fidonet, that way freedom of
>WD> speech is still part of what goes on here.

Yeah..... you mean the way Janis "runs" her echo? Like that? Do
you honestly think she allows freedom of speech in there? I'm
assuming you've seen the recent communications between myself and
her in that echo?

Janis has even thicker skin than I do, so if you got her upset it
means some treshold has been surpassed.

I'd say "surpassed" would be the understatement of the decade.



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Hello TIM,

On Friday July 31 2020 20:29, you wrote to DAN CLOUGH:

Have you heard the term `cancel culture'?

As in banning TikTok by presidential decree?

"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"

The native Americans were willing to defend their country, but unfortunateley they were overrun by barbarians with guns from across the Atlantic..


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Tim,

[..]

Tagline;

"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"

Thanks, Tim! That is the *best* endorsement of Joe Biden I have
ever seen from anyone! Regardless of party affiliation, or none at
all! What a guy! I knew you had it in you!

--Lee

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Dan Clough <=-

"`Patriot': A person who is willing to defend their country against
all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!"

The native Americans were willing to defend their country, but
unfortunateley they were overrun by barbarians with guns from
across the Atlantic..

Yep, they were Patriots.
Sometimes the Patriots lose.
Now you know.

Crazy Horse and White Bull ran wild over Lt. Col. George Custer
and his five companies of scouts.

Yep, that was one battle. Who won the war?

And that was with bows and arrows. Just think what they would
have done to the US Army had they had real guns.

You uneducated dumb fuck. They outgunned the Army dipshits, which
is easily searched if you don't believe me. Here's one:

https://www.history.com/news/little-bighorn-battle-facts-causes

You and Custer have a lot in common. You're both idiots.


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Hello Janis,

Have you heard the term `cancel culture'?

As in banning TikTok by presidential decree?

+1

Preemptively sold to Microsoft.

--Lee

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