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    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Dale Shipp on Monday, April 08, 2024 11:27:10
    Hello Dale Shipp!

    07 Apr 19 17:48:04, Dale Shipp wrote to Ward Dossche:

    We tried, and failed.

    I beg to differ ... "we tried and did not succeed".

    Same thing in my mind. Failed == did not succeed.

    Semantics. The result was that P4 was not changed.

    That is very true. The time and effort by myself and many others is
    why I have no interest in trying it again.

    Same here. I was very disappointed when it failed. No use pointing fingers, but I am out. I am not going to put any more time and energy in it. I have learned to live with P4 as it is and have done so for 25+ years. Ik can live with it for what remains of my Fidolife.


    Michiel


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, April 09, 2024 01:46:44
    Hello Dale,

    We tried, and failed.

    I beg to differ ... "we tried and did not succeed".

    Same thing in my mind. Failed == did not succeed.

    Reagan tried in 1976 and failed.
    Reagan tried in 1980 and succeeded.

    Bush tried in 1980 and failed.
    Bush tried in 1988 and succeeded.

    A lot of good people put some honest effort into it.

    That is very true. The time and effort by myself and many others is
    why I have no interest in trying it again. But if any small group
    wishes to try -- best of luck and I hope they succeed this time.

    Toss it and write a new one.

    Or simply write a new one, as what you have was never
    legitimately passed and ratified in any zone.

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Dale Shipp on Friday, April 05, 2024 16:37:14
    On 5/04/2019 01:47, 1:261/1466 wrote:

    Maybe today it might be easier -- there are not as many RCs. Even if
    you could get a quorum of RCs to put a revision on the table, it is not clear if you could muster the votes of the NCs.

    Maybe a poll of *Cs first to see how many are alive and kicking.

    Does a dead *C have any voting rights?

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Ward Dossche on Friday, April 05, 2024 03:45:14
    Hello Ward!

    05 Apr 19 09:16, you wrote to David Drummond:

    Does a dead *C have any voting rights?

    Yes.

    However, he/she is unlikely to exercise them.

    Andrew

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