On 14/05/2019 15:36, Fabio Bizzi -> Ward Dossche wrote:

This is a real snapshot of Ward:

https://media.titanbooks.com/catalog/products/4202/hagar1974.jpg

I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from Belgium are known for the horned hats. The beer tankard strikes some truth though.

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with smoked salmonm

Speaking of salmon, you often comment on the disgusting habit the northernmost Swedes have with fermenting their herring. The procedure actually is quite similar to the making of Asian fish sauce, BTW, but that's another story...

But have you tried one of our real fish delicatessens -- that even sells at enormous prices on The Posh Street of many cities around the world. I'm of course talking about Swedish Gravlax.

Recipes posted and reposted here in FidoNews.

http://eljaco.se/FILES/FNEWS/FNEWSY10.ZIP



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The numbers
Ward Dossche - 2:292/854

Maybe time for some realism. The nodelist may be what it is but
numbers donÆt lie.

There were days when Fidonet eclipsed around 36.000 nodes in the
mid-1990-ies but that is like 25 years ago.

These are todayÆs numbers, 915 individual sysop-names. There may
be some variation depending on how one looks at the nodelist but
all administrative overhead, Down, Hold and vanity-numbers were
removed and then that is the meager result.

ZONE-1 302 33,01%
ZONE-2 571 62,40%
ZONE-3 24 2,26%
ZONE-4 18 1,97%

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A new RC45
By Ward Dossche @ 2:292/854


An election was held in R45 (Belarus) to find a new RC.

The election was run by Avshalom Donskoi of 2:400/2992, the
RC40 (Israel).

The new RC45 is Alexey Korotkov of 2:455/19.

Congratulations Alexey, you have a job to do as some will be
quick to point out to you.

And thank you Avshalom for running this.

\%/@rd Dossche
ZC2

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The numbers
Ward Dossche - 2:292/854

Maybe time for some realism. The nodelist may be what it is but
numbers don't lie.

There were days when Fidonet eclipsed around 36.000 nodes in the
mid-1990-ies but that is like 25 years ago.

These are today's numbers, 915 individual sysop-names. There may
be some variation depending on how one looks at the nodelist but
all administrative overhead, Down, Hold and vanity-numbers were
removed and then that is the meager result.

ZONE-1 302 33,01%
ZONE-2 571 62,40%
ZONE-3 24 2,26%
ZONE-4 18 1,97%

Thanks for those numbers, Ward. Very interesting how much things
have changed.

Not sure what the comment on "realism" means... I think we all
know that Fidonet is not what it was 25 years ago.

At least it's still around, right?



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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Thanks for those numbers, Ward. Very interesting how much things
have changed.

Thank you sir.

The interesting thing is ... there is growth. Mot much but I have
noticed it in the entries running BBS\Fidonet-systems.

Excellent news.

My intention is to run this again in a few months and see where
we get. There still is dead wood ...

Great idea, and please post your results. No doubt about the dead
wood, there is quite a bit of it. I'm assuming that is the job of
the RCs to trim that, but if they don't do it, can a ZC step in
and clean it up?

Not sure what the comment on "realism" means... I think we all
know that Fidonet is not what it was 25 years ago.

"realism" .... good point ... I would say, but I'm going to use
the wrong words, the relative unimportance of what we're doing,
the relative unimportance of the Elflords (including myself) and
let's not be too serious about ourselves.

Ahhh, OK. I get what you meant there, and agree completely.

On the other hand, I still learn every week by following some of
the technical platforms hence Fidonet has been a tremendous
learning experience that could not have been offered by the
internet.

Agreed again!

There was a lot of good in Fidonet ... still is.

At least it's still around, right?

Absolutely ... I love some of the stuff that is being handed
around here ...

Me too. Thanks for the civilized reply.



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Hello Gerrit,

Actually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth
(maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).

Excavations from early Viking settlements confirm that too.

Well, it's kind of a negative confirmation in that case: no such helment has
even been found.

Someone told me the horned hat was a Hollywood invention.

Wagner's "Ring" premiered in 1876 and featured nordic warriors wearing such
helmets, certainly predating any Hollywood activities. As the operas became
quite popular, it is probably safe to assume that it spread from there.

Fake news! Wagner did not include "wings on helmets" as any part
of his opera. And he did write four parts, not just one.

https://www.vikings.com/news/the-truth-behind-the-horned-helmet-17914366


"The costume designer Carol Emil Doepler designed winged helmets
for Wagner's opera series [1876], adding horns in an 1882 book on
Germanic gods and heroes."

From there, folks in Minnesota USA decided to call their
football team the Minnesota Vikings, sporting horns on helmets
as their logo.

Made it to the Super Bowl four times.
Lost in the Super Bowl four times.

A nightmare for Minnesotans and Scandinavians alike.

--Lee

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On 14/05/2019 19:56, Gerrit Kuehn -> David Drummond wrote:

https://media.titanbooks.com/catalog/products/4202/hagar1974.jpg

I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from
Belgium are known for the horned hats.

Actually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth
(maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).

Yes - I think I knew that already....

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Hello David,

https://media.titanbooks.com/catalog/products/4202/hagar1974.jpg

I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from

Belgium are known for the horned hats.

Actually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth
(maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).

Yes - I think I knew that already....

Carl Emil Doepler designed winged helmets for Richard Wagner's opera.
In 1882 he added horns in a book on Germanic gods and heroes.

That is what confuses people. Wagner was the composer who wrote
the opera series. Doepler was a costume designer who created the
vision people saw. Hitler was a politician who gave the world
his own warped interpretation.

--Lee

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