Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to become the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the Netherlands.

https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME



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Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to become the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the Netherlands.

https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME

Arjen Lubach is fantastic ...

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Hello Björn Felten!

** On Saturday 24.09.22 - 00:53, Björn Felten wrote to All:

Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to
become the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the
Netherlands.

https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME

That was excellent. I like his introduction.. "Putin is
conducting a referrendum in a country that isn't even his!"

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Hi, Bj?rn Felten!
I read your message from 24.09.2022 01:53

BF> Finally a creative solution to end Mad Vlad's attempt to become
BF> the next Stalin of Russia. Kudos to the Netherlands.
BF> https://youtu.be/OVv3ofeBnME

It could fun if Russians in Donbass would not be killed every day by Ukrainians. In this situation it is easy to understand their desire for Russia.

Bye, Bj?rn!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, August Abolins!
I read your message from 25.09.2022 04:17

AA> That was excellent. I like his introduction.. "Putin is
AA> conducting a referrendum in a country that isn't even his!"

But it is a wrong conception that everything happening on Donbass
happens only after Putin word. The background of the evens much more complicated. I would even say that after 2014 Donbass problem became a
pain in Russia's ass.

Bye, August!
Alexander Koryagin
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It could fun if Russians in Donbass would not be killed every day by Ukrainians.

The Russians being killed in Ukraine invaded the country with the objective of Killing Ukrainians (even those with Russian links) in order to take over the country.

Of course that didn't happen.

In this situation it is easy to understand their desire for Russia.

There is little "desire" for Russia in Ukraine.

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Alexander,

But it is a wrong conception that everything happening on Donbass
happens only after Putin word. The background of the evens much more complicated. I would even say that after 2014 Donbass problem became a
pain in Russia's ass.

If you see how the Ukrainian military is now whipping the ass of the Russian military, it is difficult to deny that same Ukrainian military could have easily have handled the Donbas insurgency if it really wanted to... unless the latter was already military supported by Russia.

Be serious, a few insurgents without military training nor command structure would never have been a match ...

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Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 26.09.2022 10:06

ak>> It could fun if Russians in Donbass would not be killed every day
ak>> by Ukrainians.

AI> The Russians being killed in Ukraine invaded the country with the
AI> objective of Killing Ukrainians (even those with Russian links) in
AI> order to take over the country.

The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian shelling
and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially and often indiscriminately. I understand that video reports are not shown in the
"free" western media and you don't know about the situation.

AI> Of course that didn't happen.

ak>> In this situation it is easy to understand their desire for
ak>> Russia.

AI> There is little "desire" for Russia in Ukraine.

It depends on whom the Donbass people blame for putting Ukraine into a
present unnatural, pornographic stance. Everything had been fine and democratic until fucking nationalists came to power during the 2014 coup.

I believe they should have a feeling of remorse for what they have done
to Ukraine, for sowing a blooming hatred and violence across the country.

Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 26.09.2022 14:23

ak>> But it is a wrong conception that everything happening on
ak>> Donbass happens only after Putin word. The background of
ak>> the evens much more complicated. I would even say that
ak>> after 2014 Donbass problem became a pain in Russia's ass.
WD> If you see how the Ukrainian military is now whipping the ass
WD> of the Russian military, it is difficult to deny that same
WD> Ukrainian military could have easily have handled the Donbas
insurgency
WD> if it really wanted to... unless the latter was already military
WD> supported by Russia.

Ukraine military indeed wanted to handle the Donbass in a military way,
and they collected military forced there. Ukraine didn't want to follow
the Minsk agreements. Hatred has switched off their brains.

Bye, Ward!
Alexander Koryagin
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The Russians being killed in Ukraine invaded the country with the
objective of Killing Ukrainians (even those with Russian links) in
order to take over the country.

The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian shelling
and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially and often indiscriminately.

Just so you know, that might have something to do with their separatist activities that Russia is so proud to sponsor.

I understand that video reports are not shown in the "free" western media
and you don't know about the situation.

Yes, we have the truth here as well as all the propaganda.

There is little "desire" for Russia in Ukraine.

It depends on whom the Donbass people blame for putting Ukraine into a present unnatural, pornographic stance.

Pornographic stance?

Everything had been fine and democratic until fucking nationalists came to power during the 2014 coup.

That was not a coup. It was a popular uprising.

I believe they should have a feeling of remorse for what they have done
to Ukraine, for sowing a blooming hatred and violence across the country.

I agree, Russia should be feeling remorse (at least) for what they have done and continue to do in Ukraine.

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The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian shelling
and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially and often indiscriminately. I understand that video reports are not shown in the "free" western media and you don't know about the situation.

On the contrary. We have our own news crews present in Ukraine on both sides of the front.

Because of this, French TV has documented the fraud and pressure and threats during the phoney current referenda. The chair of the local election committee, when confronted, said "This is not right".

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Hello Alexander,

[..]

Ukraine military indeed wanted to handle the Donbass in a military way, and they collected military forced there. Ukraine didn't want to follow the Minsk agreements. Hatred has switched off their brains.

Neither side honored the Minsk agreements. And that was before
Russia decided to invade. Now in tatters, there is no agreement
at all. Which apparently is what both sides want.

For Life,
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Hi Ward Dossche!
I read your message on 28-Sep-2022

ak>> The civilians in Donbass are killed every day during Ukrainian
ak>> shelling and rocket strikes. Donetsk areas are targeted specially
ak>> and often indiscriminately. I understand that video reports are
ak>> not shown in the "free" western media and you don't know about the
ak>> situation.

WD> On the contrary. We have our own news crews present in Ukraine on
WD> both sides of the front.

WD> Because of this, French TV has documented the fraud and pressure
WD> and threats during the phoney current referenda. The chair of the
WD> local election committee, when confronted, said "This is not
WD> right".

And they denied of course Ukrainian shelling? ;-) Well, it is very
difficult for press to make a correct picture of it. The press has
limited access to the events. It looks like a blind, groping an elefant
and describing how it looks.

Bye Ward!
Alexander
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Hi Lee Lofaso!
I read your message on 28-Sep-2022

ak>> Ukraine military indeed wanted to handle the Donbass in a military
ak>> way, and they collected military forced there. Ukraine didn't want
ak>> to follow the Minsk agreements. Hatred has switched off their
ak>> brains.

LL> Neither side honored the Minsk agreements. And that was before
LL> Russia decided to invade. Now in tatters, there is no agreement at
LL> all. Which apparently is what both sides want.

The Putin's invasion began after Ukraine escalated the conflict. Heavy
weapon was tugged again to Donbass, shelling stared every day. As we see
now -- Ukraine had concentrated there a great force.

Bye Lee!
Alexander
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The Putin's invasion began after Ukraine escalated the conflict. Heavy
weapon was tugged again to Donbass, shelling stared every day. As we see
now -- Ukraine had concentrated there a great force.

Yes, Russia tugged heavy weapons to Ukraine and has attacked Ukrainian soldiers and the poeple of the Donbass. That started before the invasion of Feb 24.

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Yes, Russia tugged heavy weapons to Ukraine and has attacked Ukrainian soldiers and the poeple of the Donbass. That started before the invasion
of Feb 24.

Russia also shot down civilian airliner Malaysian Airlines MH17 over Ukraine.

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