Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Sean Dennis <=-
Meantime, bread rose and in the oven baking. Farly standard recipe
for me
1.5c milk
On 10-04-22 21:51, Jim Weller <=-
spoke to Carol Shenkenberger about bread <=-
Lately I've been making a lot of white flour fry bread as it's a
favourite of our great niece who is staying with us for a bit. We
shallow fry pan cake sized blobs of dough in a quart inch of lard
and turn them over once. Some of them end up as Navajo tacos, others sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon ("Eskimo" donuts) but most of them
just get eaten up plain while still warm.
Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-
Lately I've been making a lot of white flour fry bread as it's a
favourite of our great niece who is staying with us for a bit. We
shallow fry pan cake sized blobs of dough in a quart inch of lard
and turn them over once. Some of them end up as Navajo tacos, others sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon ("Eskimo" donuts) but most of them
just get eaten up plain while still warm.
And all sound quite good!
The referenced cookbook was essentially one of two bread machine bible
for Gail back when she was doing a lot of bread machine bread. We
still have the machine, but hardly ever use it any more. In fact, we
eat so little bread in our apartment (as opposed to in the restaurants) that she freezes the store bought bread in four slice portions.
Dave Drum wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
was living alone I often bunged the loaf into the freezer. But, that sorting it into portions sounds like a most excellent idea.
Right after I moved into this house one of my places had a kille sale
on a 2 lb bread machine. And, since I had left my other one to the mold
at my former tin-can I bought it. Have yet to unpack it. Bv)=
Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-
was living alone I often bunged the loaf into the freezer. But, that sorting it into portions sounds like a most excellent idea.
I've been doing that "In the woods" for a while now. As I only eat
one peice of toast for breakfast with eggs and bacon or jam etc.
I do it with English muffins at home as well since they are toasted
anyway it works out perfectly. :)
Right after I moved into this house one of my places had a kille sale
on a 2 lb bread machine. And, since I had left my other one to the mold
at my former tin-can I bought it. Have yet to unpack it. Bv)=
Mine is on the shelf beside me, I use it more in the winter. Daughter just bought one a week or two back so she's making bread all the time
as well as she made a pretty good strawberry jam from frozen berries
she had.
Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-
I do two pieces of toast. Drain the egg yolks onve the potatoes then
use the "set" part of the yolk and a bit of the white and some of the bacon or sausage to make a pair of breakfast sandwiches.
I may adopt Dale's portioning trick. I'll look around for some
containers I can use with my sucky-bag machine to avoid freezer-burn (actually excess sogginess in the frozen bread when it's thawed.
New toy and all that. I did the same when I got my first one.
Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-
Title: Multigrain Buttermilk Bread -Machine
Categories: D/g
1 1/4 c Buttermilk
1/4 ts Baking soda
3 ts Red Star active dry yeast
1/4 c Cracked wheat
1 c Bread flour(plus 1 tb flour)
1 c Whole wheat flour
2 ts Gluten
1 1/2 tb Wheat germ
3 tb Cornmeal
Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I do two pieces of toast. Drain the egg yolks onve the potatoes then
use the "set" part of the yolk and a bit of the white and some of the bacon or sausage to make a pair of breakfast sandwiches.
Sounds good.
I may adopt Dale's portioning trick. I'll look around for some
containers I can use with my sucky-bag machine to avoid freezer-burn (actually excess sogginess in the frozen bread when it's thawed.
I tend to toast bread most of the time so that dries out the sogginess.
:)
New toy and all that. I did the same when I got my first one.
Oh yeah.
Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-
I could give away my Cuisinart stand mixer as I've not used it in the
past five years. But then this little voice in the back of my head said "The day after you give it away you'll discover a 'gotta try' recipe
that needs it."
I did give away the faddish air-fryer which I used quite a bit when it
was newly acquired but have had to dust since then. I'm keeping the old
On 10-08-22 22:22, Jim Weller <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about bread <=-
Title: Multigrain Buttermilk Bread -Machine
Categories: D/g
I take it you've made this one yourself. Did you get a good rise?
1 1/4 c Buttermilk
1/4 ts Baking soda
3 ts Red Star active dry yeast
I've always been advised that baking soda inhibits yeast growth, so
even though the acid in the buttermilk reacts with the alkaline
soda I always skip the soda when I make similar breads. I do know
that yeast thrives in acidic environments so I often add a
tablespoon of the whey that rises to the top of sour cream or yogurt containers to my water based doughs.
Having said that Canadian wheat has a higher gluten content
naturally than American grain, about 2% on average. My all purpose
flour runs 10% gluten protein and is good for breadmaking, while
yours is 8% and better suited for biscuits, quickbreads, and pancakes. Extra soft 6% cake and pastry flour is ideal for pie pastry,
delicate cookies and cakes
There are six classes of wheat based on the growing season (winter
or spring), hardness i.e. gluten content (hard or soft) and colour
(red or white). Softer wheats have lower protein and less gluten
strength.
Red wheat has a slightly higher amount of protein which makes it
Hard Red Spring wheat is the preferred crop for northern plains
farmers as it matures quicker than soft white strains. Selective
Hard Red Spring Wheat is not grown in the US.
Durum is the hardest of all wheats classes, amber in colour and has
very high gluten content. It is used primarily for pasta and
couscous.
Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I could give away my Cuisinart stand mixer as I've not used it in the
past five years. But then this little voice in the back of my head said "The day after you give it away you'll discover a 'gotta try' recipe
that needs it."
That's exactly what will happen. I got my mothers old sunbeam
standmixer when she stopped baking, but the understanding is if she
needs it I drive it 1.5 hours to her house. ;)
I did give away the faddish air-fryer which I used quite a bit when it
was newly acquired but have had to dust since then. I'm keeping the old
I have the instant pot duo-crisp so it has an air fryer lid, as well as
a convection oven that we use in the woods. I bring it home for the winter for the big meals that need a second oven. :)
Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-
1/4 ts Baking soda
Did you get a good rise?
I don't recall
I've also heard that salt inhibits the yeast growth -- but do not know
if that is accurate.
You give an excellent synopsis.
Having said that Canadian wheat has a higher gluten content
naturally than American grain, about 2% on average. My all purpose
flour runs 10% gluten protein and is good for breadmaking, while
yours is 8% and better suited for biscuits, quickbreads, and pancakes. Extra soft 6% cake and pastry flour is ideal for pie pastry,
delicate cookies and cakes
Good to know.
There are six classes of wheat based on the growing season (winter
or spring), hardness i.e. gluten content (hard or soft) and colour
(red or white). Softer wheats have lower protein and less gluten
strength.
Interesting -- I did not know all of that.
<<much snipping below>>
Red wheat has a slightly higher amount of protein which makes it
Hard Red Spring wheat is the preferred crop for northern plains
farmers as it matures quicker than soft white strains. Selective
Hard Red Spring Wheat is not grown in the US.
Durum is the hardest of all wheats classes, amber in colour and has
very high gluten content. It is used primarily for pasta and
couscous.
Title: Dim Sum (Steamed Chinese Appetizers).
Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Jim Weller <=-
I use buttermilk a lot.
Helps the bread not mold.
milk products do is make the bread not dry out as fast.
I use buttermilk a lot.
Helps the bread not mold.
The main thing milk products do is make the bread not dry out as fast.
Anyways, baking again tomorrow so Don has bread while I'm gone on a work trip next week.
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