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    From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, October 01, 2022 19:15:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-

    Title: Casserole of Blackeyed Peas and Collards
    Categories: Vegetarian, Low-fat
    1/2 c Reduced-sodium tomato sauce
    1/4 c Reduced-sodium ketchup

    I'd go with the regular tomato sauce and ketchup unless there is
    a need for the reduced sodium variety.

    It's not surprising to read that someone who posted low-fat
    vegetarian recipes would also reduce their salt content. [g]

    Some country ham would be a good addition

    Agreed.

    Country hans are very rare and hard to find in Canada. Most of our
    hams are brined, not hard salted, and barely smoked, so still
    moist and they need to be refrigerated.

    I once asked an elderly neighbour how they had fresh meat all winter
    and not much salted, smoked or dried meats in the days before
    electricity, fridges and freezers. He explained to me that farmers
    formed groups and took turns slaughtering a single animal which was
    then shared. So a single steer fed 16 large families for a week.
    Almost everyone had ice houses too to store river ice well into the
    next summer. I'm talking about central ontario where the winters
    were cold enough that you could cut a lot of river ice and freeze
    fresh meat hanging in an unheated shack for maybe 90 days or longer
    in mid-winter as well.

    I have both leeks and pinto beans on hand so I was looking up
    recipes that called for them together. There aren't many. But I
    did come across this one, where the greens used are Swiss chard.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Judi's Minestrone Soup
    Categories: Soups, Italian, Beans, Pork, Pasta
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/2 lb Dried pinto beans
    2 tb Olive oil
    1/4 lb Salt pork; finely chopped
    3 cl Garlic; chopped
    3 tb Parsley; chopped
    2 ts Dried basil
    1/4 ts Thyme
    1/2 ts Oregano
    1/2 ts Rosemary
    1/8 ts Crushed red pepper
    1 sm Onion; coarsely chopped
    1/2 lb Swiss chard; coarse chopped
    2 md Leeks; white part only
    - halved lengthwise and
    -sliced in 1/2" thick pieces
    2 Celery ribs; coarse chopped
    1 lg Can Italian peeled tomatoes;
    -coarsely chopped
    2 c Chicken stock
    2 qt water
    Freshly ground pepper
    1/2 lb All-purpose potatoes; peeled
    -and cut into 1/2" pieces
    3 md Carrots; sliced 1/4" thick
    1/2 lb Green cabbage; shredded
    2 sm Zucchini; halved lengthwise
    -and cut about 1/2" thick
    1 ts Salt; optional
    Parmesan cheese;fresh grated

    Put beans in a large bowl and pour enough cold water to cover by 2
    inches. Let soak overnight. Drain and rinse well.

    In a large stockpot (8-qt or larger) heat the olive oil over
    moderate heat. Add the salt pork and saute about 2 minutes. Add
    garlic, parsley, basil, thyme, oregano, rosemary, and crushed
    pepper. Cook about a minute, stirring occasionally. Stir in
    onion, Swiss chard, leeks, and celery. Cover and cook until soft
    about 4-5 minutes. Stir in the drained beans, tomatoes, chicken
    stock, and water. Bring to a boil and grind some pepper into the
    soup. Stir. Reduce the heat to low and simmer for about 45-55
    minutes. Stir in the potatoes and carrots, cover, and cook about
    40 minutes. Stir in the cabbage, zucchini, and optional salt and
    cook another 15 minutes or so.

    This soup is better made a day before serving and will keep in the
    refrigerator up to a week. Serve in bowls and pass freshly grated
    Parmesan cheese around.

    An adaption of a recipe found in Food & Wine Magazine

    Judi's Notes: I like to put my cabbage in almost at the end of the
    cooking process, but you can add the cabbage when you start to
    cook the potatoes; it will give the soup a stronger flavor.

    From the kitchen of Judi M. Phelps.

    MMMMM



    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to JIM WELLER on Sunday, October 02, 2022 20:36:15
    Hi Jim,

    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-

    Title: Casserole of Blackeyed Peas and Collards
    Categories: Vegetarian, Low-fat
    1/2 c Reduced-sodium tomato sauce
    1/4 c Reduced-sodium ketchup

    I'd go with the regular tomato sauce and ketchup unless there is
    a need for the reduced sodium variety.

    It's not surprising to read that someone who posted low-fat
    vegetarian recipes would also reduce their salt content. [g]

    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some back
    into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know some
    things have to have it to taste "right".


    Some country ham would be a good addition

    Agreed.

    Country hans are very rare and hard to find in Canada. Most of our
    hams are brined, not hard salted, and barely smoked, so still
    moist and they need to be refrigerated.

    They're easy to find around here but a good one isn't cheap. We buy
    small packages of pieces to use in cooking, biscuits, etc.


    I once asked an elderly neighbour how they had fresh meat all winter
    and not much salted, smoked or dried meats in the days before
    electricity, fridges and freezers. He explained to me that farmers
    formed groups and took turns slaughtering a single animal which was
    then shared. So a single steer fed 16 large families for a week.

    Sounds like a sensible idea.


    Almost everyone had ice houses too to store river ice well into the
    next summer. I'm talking about central ontario where the winters
    were cold enough that you could cut a lot of river ice and freeze
    fresh meat hanging in an unheated shack for maybe 90 days or longer
    in mid-winter as well.

    They used to do that up in NY State also. Layer the ice with sawdust and
    it might last into the summer.


    I have both leeks and pinto beans on hand so I was looking up
    recipes that called for them together. There aren't many. But I
    did come across this one, where the greens used are Swiss chard.

    Title: Judi's Minestrone Soup
    Categories: Soups, Italian, Beans, Pork, Pasta
    Yield: 8 Servings


    A good one for a night like tonight. I found a really good recipe for minestrone some years ago, have to see if I can hunt it down to make
    this winter.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, October 03, 2022 22:56:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-

    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't
    do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    My blood pressure was creeping up but I managed to get it under
    control without medications by reducing both my caffeine and sodium
    intake. I still have one cup of coffee every morning. I don't add
    salt to my cooking. I use a lot of lemon juice as a flavour enhancer
    and do have salt on the table for everyone else of course. I also
    cut way back on cold cuts and cured meats (both of which I love) and
    stopped eating foods like potato chips.

    Country hans are very rare and hard to find in Canada.

    They're easy to find around here

    They are not just an American thing but a southern thing.

    but a good one isn't cheap.

    And neither is prosciutto or an aged Spanish ham

    The price is not out of line considering the shrinkage from water
    loss vs the added water in plumped up lightly brined ones. The cost
    of the protein is not all that different.

    Almost everyone had ice houses

    They used to do that up in NY State also. Layer the ice with sawdust
    and it might last into the summer.

    My parent's country lot (I won't call it a farm as they didn't
    farm) had both an ice house and a milk shed on it. Both of them were
    of double walled log construction with a foot of sawdust and packed
    straw between the inner and out walls. They were also located in the
    shade of huge elm and maple trees. We had a generator, a freezer and
    two fridges so those buildings got used for other things.

    I found a really good recipe for minestrone some years ago,
    have to see if I can hunt it down to make this winter.

    Minestrone doesn't really need a recipe and is very versatile
    depending on what is on hand.

    A very different soup pulled from my squash collection ...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Caribbean Shrimp and Pumpkin Chowder
    Categories: Soups, Shrimp, Caribbean, Dairy, Clams
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 tb Vegetable oil
    4 c Chopped onion
    2 tb Madras curry powder
    1 tb Minced peeled gingerroot
    1/4 ts Crushed red pepper
    3 Cloves garlic; crushed
    5 c Clam juice
    1 c Diced red bell pepper
    1 c Diced yellow pepper
    1/2 ts Salt
    2 14 oz cans whole tomatoes
    Undrained; chopped
    1 6 oz can tomato paste
    1 1/2 lb Med shrimp; deveined
    2 c Cubed, cooked fresh pumpkin
    1 c Evaporated skimmed milk
    1/3 c Minced green onions
    1/4 c Minced fresh parsley
    2 tb Minced fresh cilantro
    2 tb Lime juice

    Heat oil in a large Dutch oven over medium heat. Add onion; saute
    7 minutes or until tender. Add curry powder, gingerroot, crushed
    red pepper, and garlic; saute 2 minutes. Add clam juice and next 5
    ingredients {clam juice through tomato paste}; bring to a boil.
    Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 20 minutes. Add shrimp; cook,
    uncovered, 5 minutes or until shrimp is done. Stir in remaining
    ingredients, cook 5 minutes or until thoroughly heated.

    Recipe by: Winebert

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 05:39:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to JIM WELLER <=-

    Title: Casserole of Blackeyed Peas and Collards
    Categories: Vegetarian, Low-fat
    1/2 c Reduced-sodium tomato sauce
    1/4 c Reduced-sodium ketchup

    I'd go with the regular tomato sauce and ketchup unless there is
    a need for the reduced sodium variety.

    It's not surprising to read that someone who posted low-fat
    vegetarian recipes would also reduce their salt content. [g]

    Reduced sodium usually means reduced flavour as well. Salt enhance flavour.

    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some
    back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    My cardio doctor (one the the top five in the world in his specialty)
    tells me "you don't have to ditch the salt ... just don't go overboard"

    He was a contributor to studies done into the subject of salt's effects
    on blood pressure, etc.

    With my usual consumption of salt my average BP take at appointments
    is in the 105/110 over high 60s to mid 70s. According to Drs Miller and
    Dynda (my cardio and GP guys) that's "stellar".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Salt-Fried Shrimp
    Categories: Emeril, Seafood, Oriental
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1/2 c Oil; for frying
    1/2 c Soy sauce
    1/4 c Rice wine vinegar
    1 ts Finely-minced ginger
    1/2 ts Chilli oil
    2 tb Thinly-shaved scallions,
    - plus extra for garnish
    1 c Flour
    2 tb Cornstarch
    6 Egg whites
    1 c Kosher salt
    1/2 c Coarse-cracked black pepper
    1 lb Large shrimp; shell-on,
    - split down back and
    - deveined

    Recipe courtesy Emeril Lagasse

    Slowly heat oil in a wok or large skillet. In a small
    bowl combine next 5 ingredients for sauce. In 3 bowls,
    combine flour and cornstarch in first; beat egg whites
    with a fork until loose in the second; mix salt and
    pepper in third bowl.

    Dip shrimp first in flour mixture, shaking off excess;
    dip in egg whites, allowing excess to drip off. Lightly
    roll in salt mixture and add immediately to hot oil.
    Fry on all sides, remove and drain on paper towels.

    Serve with sauce, garnished with extra scallions.

    Yield: 12 to 15 shrimp

    SOURCE: Essence of Emeril Cooking Show #EE0086

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 30 December 1999

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to JIM WELLER on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 14:15:36
    Hi Jim,

    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-

    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't
    do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    My blood pressure was creeping up but I managed to get it under
    control without medications by reducing both my caffeine and sodium intake. I still have one cup of coffee every morning. I don't add

    I have a cup (mug of tea) every morning but one of my meds has caffiene
    in it. Blood pressure was all out of control and I kept losing potassium
    until my primary dr. (now gone to work elsewhere) set up an appointment
    with an endocrinologist. Found out my adrenal glands were putting out
    too much aldosterone so got that regulated and BP is doing better. Still
    on meds but a reduced amount.


    salt to my cooking. I use a lot of lemon juice as a flavour enhancer
    and do have salt on the table for everyone else of course. I also
    cut way back on cold cuts and cured meats (both of which I love) and stopped eating foods like potato chips.

    We'll buy the sliced turkey, ham and roast beef (cut from the roasts)
    but don't get bologna and things like that any more. We don't do a lot
    of things like potato chips (Steve eats a lot more of them than I do.)
    but unsalted "saltine" crackers just don't have the same flavor. (G)


    Country hans are very rare and hard to find in Canada.

    They're easy to find around here

    They are not just an American thing but a southern thing.

    And I'm in prime ham country. (G)

    but a good one isn't cheap.

    And neither is prosciutto or an aged Spanish ham

    I know, we've seen some of the dried Spanish hams at Wegman's--how to
    easily blow your food budget with the purchase of one of them.


    The price is not out of line considering the shrinkage from water
    loss vs the added water in plumped up lightly brined ones. The cost
    of the protein is not all that different.

    Still, not something we do except maybe pieces of country ham for ham
    biscuits or seasoning a mess of greens.

    Almost everyone had ice houses

    They used to do that up in NY State also. Layer the ice with sawdust
    and it might last into the summer.

    My parent's country lot (I won't call it a farm as they didn't
    farm) had both an ice house and a milk shed on it. Both of them were
    of double walled log construction with a foot of sawdust and packed
    straw between the inner and out walls. They were also located in the
    shade of huge elm and maple trees. We had a generator, a freezer and
    two fridges so those buildings got used for other things.

    Ice year round. (G)


    I found a really good recipe for minestrone some years ago,
    have to see if I can hunt it down to make this winter.

    Minestrone doesn't really need a recipe and is very versatile
    depending on what is on hand.

    I've had a number of them that were mediocre but this one was really
    good. IIRC, it was from a Sara Moulton cook book.

    A very different soup pulled from my squash collection ...

    Title: Caribbean Shrimp and Pumpkin Chowder
    Categories: Soups, Shrimp, Caribbean, Dairy, Clams
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Interesting combination.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 14:30:16
    Hi Dave,

    1/2 c Reduced-sodium tomato sauce
    1/4 c Reduced-sodium ketchup

    I'd go with the regular tomato sauce and ketchup unless there is
    a need for the reduced sodium variety.

    It's not surprising to read that someone who posted low-fat
    vegetarian recipes would also reduce their salt content. [g]

    Reduced sodium usually means reduced flavour as well. Salt enhance flavour.

    Sometimes salt can be reduced with no loss in flavor. A lot of cook
    books from the 50's call for a lot more salt than I use. I've cut the
    amount with no loss of flavor.


    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some
    back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    My cardio doctor (one the the top five in the world in his specialty) tells me "you don't have to ditch the salt ... just don't go
    overboard"

    I used to (in college) grab the salt shaker with most every meal. Had to
    break myself of that when I got married and doing my own cooking.

    He was a contributor to studies done into the subject of salt's
    effects on blood pressure, etc.

    So he should know whereof he speaks.


    With my usual consumption of salt my average BP take at appointments
    is in the 105/110 over high 60s to mid 70s. According to Drs Miller
    and Dynda (my cardio and GP guys) that's "stellar".

    Very good! Mine is usually higher when the PA takes it but that's
    usually right after I come in, barely get seated and get called back.
    Then the doctor takes it well into the appointment and it's down in the
    good range.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thursday, October 06, 2022 06:23:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'd go with the regular tomato sauce and ketchup unless there is
    a need for the reduced sodium variety.

    It's not surprising to read that someone who posted low-fat
    vegetarian recipes would also reduce their salt content. [g]

    Reduced sodium usually means reduced flavour as well. Salt enhances flavour.

    Sometimes salt can be reduced with no loss in flavor. A lot of cook
    books from the 50's call for a lot more salt than I use. I've cut the amount with no loss of flavor.

    And sometimes over-salting spoils the flavour. There's a fine balance -
    the level of saltiness that's acceptable varies from person to person.
    And keep in mind that MSG is a form of salt.

    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some
    back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    Absotively.

    My cardio doctor (one the the top five in the world in his specialty) tells me "you don't have to ditch the salt ... just don't go
    overboard"

    I used to (in college) grab the salt shaker with most every meal. Had
    to break myself of that when I got married and doing my own cooking.

    In college you were probably eating at the cafeteria - where salt/spice
    levels are L.C.D. and the food is thus bland and needs a "wake up" call.

    He was a contributor to studies done into the subject of salt's
    effects on blood pressure, etc.

    So he should know whereof he speaks.

    With my usual consumption of salt my average BP take at appointments
    is in the 105/110 over high 60s to mid 70s. According to Drs Miller
    and Dynda (my cardio and GP guys) that's "stellar".

    Very good! Mine is usually higher when the PA takes it but that's
    usually right after I come in, barely get seated and get called back.
    Then the doctor takes it well into the appointment and it's down in the good range.

    Well, yeah. Most all of my medical places have an automatic BP device
    that they leave me hooked to. By the time the croaker comes in and they
    record the result I have been "at rest" long enough to stabilise all
    readings.

    What gets them excited sometimes is when they clip the oximeter to my "signalling" finger and the readings seem low. I have to remind them
    that with my COPD and emphysema low - mid 90s is normal for me. Bv)=

    If I had a time machine I would go back to 1949 and find my seven-year-
    old self and slap the wadding out of me for ever picking up that first cigarette.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Time Traveller's Raspberry Napoleon
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Desserys, Dairy
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 Sheets frozen ready-rolled
    - butter puff pastry, thawed
    2 tb Milk
    2 tb Caster sugar
    5 Egg yolks
    100 g Caster sugar
    500 mL Milk
    40 g Cornflour or arrowroot
    1 Vanilla pod; split down the
    - centre w/seeds scraped out
    250 mL Thickened Cream
    1 ts Icing sugar
    2 Punnets of raspberries
    2 tb Raspberry jam

    Set oven @ 200ºC/400ºF.

    Line a baking tray with non-stick baking paper

    Place the pastry on the lined tray.

    Brush pastry with milk and sprinkle with caster sugar.

    Bake for 5 minutes or until golden.

    Turn the pastry and bake for a further five minutes
    until the pastry is crisp.

    Set aside to cool.

    Pour the milk into a pan, add the vanilla pod and its
    seeds and bring to the boil, then remove from the heat.

    Whisk sugar, egg yolks and cornflour together in a large
    bowl.

    Add a little of the hot milk to the egg mixture and
    continue to whisk.

    Slowly whisk in the rest of the hot milk and return to
    the pan.

    Cook over a low heat, whisking continuously, until
    thick.

    Remove from the heat and allow to cool completely
    before placing in refrigerator.

    Whisk cream until stiff peaks form and refrigerate.

    Using a large serrated knife trim the cooled pastry
    into 6 x 12 cm rectangles.

    Spread pastry slices with raspberry jam and raspberries
    then add a layer of the custard.

    Add another pastry slice spread with raspberry Jam then
    add a layer of raspberries and cream.

    Top with a pastry slice then sprinkle with icing sugar
    to serve.

    by Aleney de Winter

    RECIPE FROM: https://boyeatsworld.com.au

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:08:21
    Hi Dave,

    Reduced sodium usually means reduced flavour as well. Salt enhances flavour.

    Sometimes salt can be reduced with no loss in flavor. A lot of cook
    books from the 50's call for a lot more salt than I use. I've cut the amount with no loss of flavor.

    And sometimes over-salting spoils the flavour. There's a fine balance
    - the level of saltiness that's acceptable varies from person to
    person.
    And keep in mind that MSG is a form of salt.

    True, and we don't have any MSG in the house.


    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some
    back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    Absotively.

    My cardio doctor (one the the top five in the world in his specialty) tells me "you don't have to ditch the salt ... just don't go
    overboard"

    I used to (in college) grab the salt shaker with most every meal. Had
    to break myself of that when I got married and doing my own cooking.

    In college you were probably eating at the cafeteria - where
    salt/spice levels are L.C.D. and the food is thus bland and needs a
    "wake up" call.

    Dining hall, and yes, it was L.C.D. but nice thing was, it was a small
    (about 1,100 students) school so not as bad as if it were cooking for
    multiple thousands of a big school.


    He was a contributor to studies done into the subject of salt's
    effects on blood pressure, etc.

    So he should know whereof he speaks.

    With my usual consumption of salt my average BP take at appointments
    is in the 105/110 over high 60s to mid 70s. According to Drs Miller
    and Dynda (my cardio and GP guys) that's "stellar".

    Very good! Mine is usually higher when the PA takes it but that's
    usually right after I come in, barely get seated and get called back.
    Then the doctor takes it well into the appointment and it's down in the good range.

    Well, yeah. Most all of my medical places have an automatic BP device
    that they leave me hooked to. By the time the croaker comes in and
    they record the result I have been "at rest" long enough to stabilise
    all
    readings.

    The tech will take my bp, then the doctor comes in and does it again for
    me.


    What gets them excited sometimes is when they clip the oximeter to my "signalling" finger and the readings seem low. I have to remind them
    that with my COPD and emphysema low - mid 90s is normal for me. Bv)=

    Mine runs in that range also, thanks to asthma and so many rounds of
    bronchitis or pneumonia.

    If I had a time machine I would go back to 1949 and find my
    seven-year- old self and slap the wadding out of me for ever picking
    up that first
    cigarette.

    I never even picked one up and I've still got bad lungs.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, October 08, 2022 05:15:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    Reduced sodium usually means reduced flavour as well. Salt enhances flavour.

    Sometimes salt can be reduced with no loss in flavor. A lot of cook
    books from the 50's call for a lot more salt than I use. I've cut the amount with no loss of flavor.

    And sometimes over-salting spoils the flavour. There's a fine balance
    - the level of saltiness that's acceptable varies from person to
    person. And keep in mind that MSG is a form of salt.

    True, and we don't have any MSG in the house.

    I react to overdoses of MSG. Cotton-mouth and facial redness. So, naturally
    I don't stock it, either.

    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some
    back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    Absotively.

    My cardio doctor (one the the top five in the world in his specialty) tells me "you don't have to ditch the salt ... just don't go
    overboard"

    I used to (in college) grab the salt shaker with most every meal. Had
    to break myself of that when I got married and doing my own cooking.

    In college you were probably eating at the cafeteria - where
    salt/spice levels are L.C.D. and the food is thus bland and needs a
    "wake up" call.

    Dining hall, and yes, it was L.C.D. but nice thing was, it was a small (about 1,100 students) school so not as bad as if it were cooking for multiple thousands of a big school.

    My high school had about 1000 students. And after eating at their lunch
    room I knew for sure what happened to the library's paste and to all of
    the dry old history and mathematics texts left from previous years.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hugo's Back-To-School Special Pizza
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Sauces, Nuts, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 (12") pizza crust
    1 cl Roasted garlic
    1 c Hugo’s Sweet Pizza Sauce
    2 c Shredded mozzarella cheese
    1 1/4 c Roasted butternut squash;
    - diced 1/2"
    2 tb Crushed hazelnuts
    2 ts Minced fresh sage leaves

    MMMMM------------------HUGO’S SWEET PIZZA SAUCE-----------------------
    6 oz Can premium tomato paste
    16 oz Can diced tomatoes
    3 tb Extra-virgin olive oil
    1 md Yellow onion; peeled,
    - trimmed, minced
    6 cl Fresh garlic; minced fine
    1 c Burgundy or other red dry
    - wine
    1 tb Dried oregano leaves
    1 tb Dried basil
    1 tb Dried marjoram
    1/2 ts Dried thyme
    1 c Light brown sugar
    2 tb Salt
    1 ts Pepper

    Set the oven @ 350°F/175°C.

    Spread the tomato paste onto a sheet tray and roast
    until it just starts to blacken. Check it at 5 minutes
    and again at 7 minutes in case the oven is running hot.
    The average cook time is 12 to 15 minutes for this step.

    In a large 3 or 4 quart heavy-bottomed sauce pot, heat
    the oil over medium heat until it begins to just
    shimmer, then add the onions. Stir, then cook the onions
    until translucent.

    Add the garlic. Once the garlic begins to brown, stir in
    the red wine and deglaze the pan, loosening any bits at
    the bottom. Cook over medium heat until the wine reduces
    by half.

    Add the dry herbs and cook until fragrant, about 2
    minutes.

    Remove the pot from heat. Add the brown sugar, salt and
    pepper and mix. A stick or immersion blender is best. If
    using a a table-top blender, mix the sauce in batches.

    Return blended sauce to the pot and cook over medium-low
    heat for 15 minutes.

    Store sauce in the refrigerator for 5 days or freeze in
    1-cup batches.

    Yield: about 3 cups of sauce

    Notes: The recipe for Hugo’s Sweet Pizza Sauce should be
    made a day ahead of time, covered and refrigerated. Use
    within a week or freeze in 1-cup portions. The batch you
    will make is big enough for several pizzas.

    MAKE THE PIZZA: Roast the squash beforehand according to
    your favorite method.

    Set oven @ the temperature suggested by the crust
    manufacture.

    Mash or dice the roasted garlic clove, then blend into
    Hugo’s Sweet Pizza Sauce.

    Spread the pizza dough evenly with the sauce.

    Top with mozzarella cheese, according to how much cheese
    you prefer.

    Spread roasted cubed butternut squash evenly over the
    pizza.

    Sprinkle with crushed hazelnuts.

    Cook to the specifications of your pizza dough recipe.

    Top the finished pizza with minced sage.

    Hugo's Pizzeria - 3135 Olive Street, St. Louis 63103

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.stltoday.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, October 08, 2022 17:39:15
    Hi Dave,


    And sometimes over-salting spoils the flavour. There's a fine balance
    - the level of saltiness that's acceptable varies from person to
    person. And keep in mind that MSG is a form of salt.

    True, and we don't have any MSG in the house.

    I react to overdoses of MSG. Cotton-mouth and facial redness. So, naturally I don't stock it, either.

    I've not reacted to it but still, have enough other seasonings that we
    don't need it.


    We tried cutting out salt almost completly some years ago. It didn't do anything one way or another for our blood pressure so we added some
    back into our diet. I still cook in the lower salt range but I know
    some things have to have it to taste "right".

    Absotively.

    Popcorn, for one. (G)

    My cardio doctor (one the the top five in the world in his specialty) tells me "you don't have to ditch the salt ... just don't go
    overboard"

    I used to (in college) grab the salt shaker with most every meal. Had
    to break myself of that when I got married and doing my own cooking.

    In college you were probably eating at the cafeteria - where
    salt/spice levels are L.C.D. and the food is thus bland and needs a
    "wake up" call.

    Dining hall, and yes, it was L.C.D. but nice thing was, it was a small (about 1,100 students) school so not as bad as if it were cooking for multiple thousands of a big school.

    My high school had about 1000 students. And after eating at their
    lunch room I knew for sure what happened to the library's paste and to
    all of the dry old history and mathematics texts left from previous
    years.

    Recycling before it became popular. (G)


    Title: Hugo's Back-To-School Special Pizza
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Sauces, Nuts, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    We had one student cook who made the best pizza, usually for Saturday
    lunch. I don't know what quantity he had to make it in but it was always popular. Sadly, he was a couple years ahead of me so when he graduated,
    the pizza others made was never as good.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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