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    From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 01:20:06
    On 09-26-22 06:00, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about Cooking Fats was: Brisket <=-

    We never used beef tallow in our cooking. Actually, we rarely used
    any sort of fat. I was tempted to cut out that middle vein of fat,

    Must not make any pastry, then. Or biscuits. Bv)=

    For pastry, we use pre-made pie crusts by Pillsbury :-}}

    I just scanned our various data files for biscuits, looking at 20-30
    recipes. I did not see any that called for tallow, lard, or other
    animal fat. What I did see were many that called for Bisquick (our
    usual method), many that called for shortning (aka Crisco) and others
    that called for butter.

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    Title: Shortcake
    Categories: Dessert
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 c Flour
    4 ts Baking powder
    1 ts Salt
    1 1/2 tb Sugar
    5 tb Butter
    2/3 c Milk

    Preheat the oven to 425

    Butter and lightly flour an 8-inch cake pan or a cookie sheet.

    Mix the flour, baking powder, salt, and sugar in a bowl. Cut
    the butter in bits and work it into the flour mixture with a pastry
    blender or your fingers until it resembles coarse meal. Slowly stir
    in the milk, using just enough to hold the dough together. Turn out
    onto a floured board and knead for a minute or two. Put the dough
    into the cake pan, or roll or pat it 3/4 inch thick and cut it
    into eight 2-inch rounds, using a biscuit cutter. Arrange the
    rounds on a cookie sheet and bake them for 10 - 12 minutes (or
    bake the larger cake for 12 - 15 minutes.) Split with two forks
    while still warm. Spread with butter if you like, fill with
    sugared berries, and serve warm with heavy cream or whipped
    cream.

    From: Dave Sacerdote Date: 06-17-08
    Cooking

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 05:35:00
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We never used beef tallow in our cooking. Actually, we rarely used
    any sort of fat. I was tempted to cut out that middle vein of fat,

    Must not make any pastry, then. Or biscuits. Bv)=

    For pastry, we use pre-made pie crusts by Pillsbury :-}}

    I have used lard, tallow and even bacon fat in my pie crusts.

    I just scanned our various data files for biscuits, looking at 20-30 recipes. I did not see any that called for tallow, lard, or other
    animal fat. What I did see were many that called for Bisquick (our
    usual method), many that called for shortning (aka Crisco) and others
    that called for butter.

    Lard is quite common in biscuits .... once again the fays are flexible.
    My dad was a master at making biscuits and I learned from him.

    Here are two recipes - one for biscuits and one for pie pastry that
    call out lard in the ingredients list. If you'd like some with tallow
    I'll ask my friend Les' wife (who keeps a Kosher kitchen) if she has
    any tried & true examples. Or check out the recipe I posted to Married
    Ruth.

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    Title: Whole Wheat Biscuit Mix - BHG
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 48 Servings

    6 c All-purpose flour *
    4 c Whole wheat flour *
    1/3 c Baking powder
    1/4 c Sugar
    2 ts Salt
    2 c Lard or Crisco shortening

    * It is permissible to play with proportions of white to
    whole-wheat up to just 10% white flour. Any less than 10%
    white flour does not seem to do well for some reason.
    ~ UDD

    In an extra-large bowl stir together flours, baking
    powder, sugar, and salt. Cut in shortening till mixture
    resembles coarse crumbs. Store in an airtight container.

    To use, bring mix to room temperature if frozen. Spoon mix
    lightly into a measuring cup; level off with a spatula.
    Continue as directed in variations.

    Makes about 12 cups.

    For a four biscuit batch of Basic Biscuits:

    Stir together 1 cup Biscuit Mix and 1/4 cup milk just till
    dough clings together. On a floured surface, knead dough
    gently 10 to 12 strokes. * Roll to 1/2" thickness. Cut
    with a 2 1/2" biscuit cutter. Place on an ungreased baking
    sheet. Bake in a 450-|F/230-|C oven 8 to 10 minutes or till
    biscuits are golden.

    Makes 4 biscuits.

    * Do not over-knead or you will get tough biscuits - AKA
    "sinkers". My Dad was a master at making biscuits and it
    really torqued my Mom's jaws that she couldn't do as
    well. Bv)=

    Better Homes & Gardens 1954 Cookbook

    MM Format by Dave Drum

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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    Title: Emeril's Turkey Pot Pie w/Savoury Crust
    Categories: Pastry, Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 Servings

    6 tb Unsalted butter
    1 c Chopped yellow onions
    1/2 c Chopped celery
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    6 tb Bleached all-purpose flour
    2 c Chicken stock or broth
    1 c Half-and-half
    1 c Peeled, diced Idaho potatoes
    - cooked in boiling salted
    - water until tender
    1 c Leftover sweet potatoes
    1 c Diced carrots; cooked in
    - boiling salted water until
    - tender
    1 c Sweet young peas; thawed
    2 c Shredded, cooked turkey
    2 tb Fine chopped fresh parsley
    - leaves

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    3 1/4 c Bleached all-purpose flour
    1 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c Cold lard
    5 tb Ice water; as needed

    Prepare the pie crust dough and refrigerate
    while preparing filling.

    TO PREPARE THE DOUGH: Combine the flour and salt in a
    large mixing bowl. Add the lard and work it in with your
    hands until the mixture resembles coarse crumbs. Add the
    water, 1 tablespoon at a time, working it in with your
    hands. Add only as much as you need to make a smooth ball
    of dough. Wrap it in plastic wrap and refrigerate for at
    least 30 minutes.

    TO MAKE THE CRUST: Remove the dough from the refrigerator
    and place it on a lightly floured work surface. For 2
    crusts, cut the dough in 2 equal pieces and put the
    second half back in the refrigerator.

    For each crust, roll out the dough on the floured surface
    into a square about 14" across and 1/8" thick.

    Gently fold the square of dough in half and then in half
    again so that you can lift it without tearing it, and
    unfold it into a square baking pan. Fill and proceed as
    directed in the recipe.

    (Makes 2 pie crusts, enough for a 9" and a 10" crust)

    Set the oven @ 400-|F/205-|C. Grease a 9" X 9" X 2"
    baking pan.

    Heat the butter in a large saute pan over medium-high
    heat. Add the onions and celery, season with salt and
    pepper, and cook, stirring, for 2 minutes.

    Stir in the flour and cook, stirring, for 3 to 4 minutes
    to make a blond roux.

    Stir in the chicken stock and bring the liquid to a boil.
    Reduce the heat to medium-low and simmer until the sauce
    begins to thicken, 4 to 6 minutes.

    Stir in the half-and-half and continue to cook for another
    4 minutes. Season with salt and pepper.

    Stir in the potatoes, carrots, peas (or any other leftover
    Thanksgiving vegetables), turkey, and parsley, season with
    salt and pepper, and mix well.

    Line the baking pan with one of the rolled-out pie crusts.
    Pour the filling into the prepared pan. Place the second
    crust on top of the filling. Carefully tuck the
    overlapping crusts into the pan, forming a thick edge.
    Crimp the edges, cut vents in the top crust, and place on
    a baking sheet.

    Bake until the crust is golden brown and crusty, 25 to 30
    minutes. Let cool for 5 minutes before slicing to serve.

    Source: Emeril's TV Dinners by Emeril Lagasse

    Recipe from: http://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 09:27:21
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I just scanned our various data files for biscuits, looking at 20-30 recipes. I did not see any that called for tallow, lard, or other
    animal fat. What I did see were many that called for Bisquick (our
    usual method), many that called for shortning (aka Crisco) and others
    that called for butter.

    My biscuits are (I'm gonna try to go by memory)

    1 cup AP
    1.5 teaspoon baking powder
    1/8 teaspoon salt
    2/3 cup Heavy Cream (or buttermilk)

    That makes 3 or 4 depending on how big you like them. Sometimes add
    other flavours to the batter depending on what I'm making with them.
    Much better then the dried out hockey pucks at popeyes. ;)

    Shawn

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