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    From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DAVE DRUM on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 20:37:00
    Quoting Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly <=-

    On of my regular breakfast/lunch spots (Brunchfield Cafe) uses a paper based clamshell "go box" that I thought was styrofoam when I first met
    it. It seems to be paper mache' or something very like it. Kudos to
    Chef/ Owner Howard Seidel. https://brunchfield.com

    Although not manatory here (yet) biodegradable, compostable clam-
    shells and soup containers are becoming quite common here. And a lot
    of people will lobby more restaurants to adopt them, In a highly
    scientific survey I found that 3 out of 3 Gen Z zoomers strongly
    approve of them.




    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Thursday, September 22, 2022 06:39:22
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    On of my regular breakfast/lunch spots (Brunchfield Cafe) uses a paper based clamshell "go box" that I thought was styrofoam when I first met
    it. It seems to be paper mache' or something very like it. Kudos to
    Chef/ Owner Howard Seidel. https://brunchfield.com

    Although not manatory here (yet) biodegradable, compostable clam-
    shells and soup containers are becoming quite common here. And a lot
    of people will lobby more restaurants to adopt them, In a highly scientific survey I found that 3 out of 3 Gen Z zoomers strongly
    approve of them.

    I am pre-Boomer and I approve. But, fats food joints, the biigest - by
    a long chalk) offernder(s) will refuse to geek, having their eyes firmlu
    on the immediate bottom line.

    BTW - I've adopted your tagline. Bv)=

    ... Exercise makes you look better naked. So does booze. Your call.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Working Person's Crockpot Country Pork Dinner *
    Categories: Pork, Potatoes, Vegetables, Crockpot
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 lb Pork loin country-style ribs
    - in serving pieces
    1/3 c Flour
    2 tb Oil
    1 1/2 c Apple cider
    1 c Water
    1 tb Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    2 lb Small red potatoes
    16 oz Carrots; in 2" pieces
    1 lg Onion; coarse chopped
    1 sm Cabbage; shredded
    1 ts Caraway seeds

    * Politically correct title. Original was "Working
    Man's Crockpot Country Pork Dinner)

    All preparation can be done the night before and assembled
    in the morning before leaving for work so you'll be
    greeted with a hearty supper at the end of the day.

    In a large plastic bag combine flour, salt and pepper.
    Drop meat into bag and coat pork loin country-style ribs
    with flour mixture; reserve leftover flour. In large
    skillet over med-high heat, in hot salad oil, cook meat, a
    few pieces at a time, until well browned on all sides,
    removing pieces as they brown.

    NOTE: I have made this without "browning" the meat. There
    is no noticable difference in taste and only a minor
    change in texture. - UDD

    Reduce heat to med; into drippings in skillet, stir
    reserved flour until blended. Gradually stir in apple
    cider. Simmer to thicken to gravy. Remove from heat and
    set aside.

    In 6 qt crockpot * add potatoes, carrots, onions and
    cabbage. Sprinkle with caraway seeds. Top with meat. Pour
    on gravy. Cover crockpot and cook on high for 6 hours or
    low for 8-10 hours.

    * Or Crockpot Casserole - UDD

    Recipe by: Vickie Ritz | 25 August 1998

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, September 24, 2022 06:29:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Errrrrmmmmm .... look in the rear-vision mirror. We used to have paper bags, paper straws, cardboard or chipboard boxes, etc. We need go
    back, not forward.

    Either that, or put it all on a plate if you're eating in. No need
    to wrap burger and fries separatly.

    Fats Food joints (the biggest offenmder) do not offer plates nor
    silver ware. Styro boxes and plastic sporks and knives - at best.

    I know, it's a thought but will probably never happen.

    True dat.

    On of my regular breakfast/lunch spots (Brunchfield Cafe) uses a paper based clamshell "go box" that I thought was styrofoam when I first met
    it. It seems to be paper mache' or something very like it. Kudos to
    Chef/ Owner Howard Seidel. https://brunchfield.com

    There is a corn based (form of corn starch) styrofoam now that breaks
    down fairly rapidly as I understand. If I remember reading rightly,
    it's a lot more environmentally friendly than even paper in its break down.

    I have a bag of biodegradable packing peanuts in the corner of the
    room. They're left over from when I shipped one of my surplus
    confusers to our esteemed moderator.

    We tend to accumulate those--and bubble wrap, then purge the supply
    every so often. Packing pillows are usually popped (G), then the
    plastic goes into the trash can.

    I keep a small supply of the "small bubble" bubble wrap. The large bubble
    stuff and the popped pillows go into the recyclyng bins with the plastic grocery/tote bags to be taken to one of the stipormarkups which maintain
    a collection point for such. I try to keep the "forever" plastics out of
    our landfills.

    Rosh Hashanah begins on 25 September. Happy New Year!

    Mazel tov!

    A sheynem dank!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Nanny's Rosh Hashanah Apple Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts, Fruits, Nuts, Citrus
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 c (9 oz) A-P flour
    1 c (7 oz.) sugar
    1 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 lb Cold, unsalted butter; in
    - 1/2" cubes, more for pan
    1 lg Egg; lightly beaten
    2 lb Granny Smith apples; peeled,
    - cored, in 1/4" wedges
    1/4 c Raisins
    1/4 c Walnut halves; rough chopped
    2 tb Fresh lemon juice
    2 tb Honey
    2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/2 ts Fresh grated nutmeg

    In a food processor, pulse the flour with the sugar,
    baking powder, and salt. Add the butter and pulse until
    it forms pea-size crumbles. Add the egg and pulse until
    the dough just comes together. Remove one-third of the
    dough and flatten it into a disk. Flatten the remaining
    dough into a disk as well, and wrap each in plastic.
    Refrigerate for 1 hour.

    Set the oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    On a lightly floured work surface, roll the larger disk
    into a 12" circle. Press the circle into a buttered 9"
    pie pan and trim the edges flush with the edge of the
    pan, reserving the trimmings. In a medium bowl, combine
    the apples with the raisins, walnuts, lemon juice,
    honey, cinnamon, and nutmeg; add to the pan. Pinch off
    small pieces of the remaining dough disk and the
    trimmings, and scatter them over the top of the apples.

    Bake until the cake is golden brown and bubbling in the
    center, about 1 hour 15 minutes. Transfer to a rack and
    let cool completely before serving.

    By: Jake Cohen

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.saveur.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, September 24, 2022 13:45:31
    Hi Dave,

    Either that, or put it all on a plate if you're eating in. No need
    to wrap burger and fries separatly.

    Fats Food joints (the biggest offenmder) do not offer plates nor
    silver ware. Styro boxes and plastic sporks and knives - at best.

    I know, it's a thought but will probably never happen.

    True dat.

    IIRC, Long John Silver's does use plates, as does Zaxby's. The latter
    are a recyclable plastic, don't remember the LJS ones.


    On of my regular breakfast/lunch spots (Brunchfield Cafe) uses a paper based clamshell "go box" that I thought was styrofoam when I first met
    it. It seems to be paper mache' or something very like it. Kudos to
    Chef/ Owner Howard Seidel. https://brunchfield.com

    There is a corn based (form of corn starch) styrofoam now that breaks
    down fairly rapidly as I understand. If I remember reading rightly,
    it's a lot more environmentally friendly than even paper in its break down.

    I have a bag of biodegradable packing peanuts in the corner of the
    room. They're left over from when I shipped one of my surplus
    confusers to our esteemed moderator.

    We tend to accumulate those--and bubble wrap, then purge the supply
    every so often. Packing pillows are usually popped (G), then the
    plastic goes into the trash can.

    I keep a small supply of the "small bubble" bubble wrap. The large
    bubble stuff and the popped pillows go into the recyclyng bins with
    the plastic grocery/tote bags to be taken to one of the stipormarkups which maintain a collection point for such. I try to keep the
    "forever" plastics out of our landfills.

    We recycle quite a bit--usually have more in the recycle bin than the
    regular trash. Wake Forest picks both up on a weekly basis--and, IIRC,
    does take all kinds of plastic, but not styrofoam.

    Rosh Hashanah begins on 25 September. Happy New Year!

    Mazel tov!

    A sheynem dank!

    Title: Nanny's Rosh Hashanah Apple Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts, Fruits, Nuts, Citrus
    Yield: 8 servings

    Looks yummy!

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, September 26, 2022 05:34:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Either that, or put it all on a plate if you're eating in. No need
    to wrap burger and fries separatly.

    Fats Food joints (the biggest offenmder) do not offer plates nor
    silver ware. Styro boxes and plastic sporks and knives - at best.

    I know, it's a thought but will probably never happen.

    True dat.

    IIRC, Long John Silver's does use plates, as does Zaxby's. The latter
    are a recyclable plastic, don't remember the LJS ones.

    They use an equivalent of the Chi-Net paper/cardboard plate. My usual
    order at LJS comes in one of those pasteboard "boats"

    We recycle quite a bit--usually have more in the recycle bin than the regular trash. Wake Forest picks both up on a weekly basis--and, IIRC, does take all kinds of plastic, but not styrofoam.

    My recycle collection trucks have bins for clear glass, coloured glass, paper/cardboard and plastic. I asked once when I was recycling some soda
    cans about lumping plastic in one category. The lady told me they sort
    it into four types (didn't say what types) when the truck unloads.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Turkey Paksiw (Recycled Turkey)
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Offal, Sauces
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Leftover, deboned turkey *
    1 Head of garlic; crushed
    3 lg Onions; halved, sliced
    1/2 c (to 3/4 c) vinegar
    1/2 c Dark soy sauce
    8 Peppercorns; pounded
    3/4 c (to 1 c) lt brown sugar
    2 Bay leaves
    Salt
    1 c Meat broth
    1 1/2 c Lechon sauce
    +=OR=+
    1/4 kg Chicken livers
    +=OR=+
    1 Can liver spread

    * Unless you have a very heavy butcher's knife at home,
    I don't recommend chopping through the turkey bones.

    Place the chopped turkey meat in a large heavy sauce pan,
    casserole or wok. Add all the ingredients except the
    lechon sauce. Bring to a boil. Stir well. Lower the heat,
    cover and simmer for 15 to 20 minutes.

    Pour in the lechon sauce and bring to a boil. Add more
    meat broth, if necessary. Adjust the seasonings. Some
    people like their paksiw more sour than sweet; other,
    just the opposite.

    Simmer for another five minutes. Turn off the heat and
    leave for the flavors to develop for another 10 minutes
    before serving.

    If you're using canned liver spread, stir the liver
    spread in a cup of hot water and pour into the cooking
    pot. Proceed as above.

    If you're using fresh chicken livers, cook the livers
    in a little salted water for a few minutes (they cook
    fast). Cool to room temperature and mash with a fork or
    puree in a food processor or blender. Pour into the
    cooking pot and proceed as above.

    Top the paksiw with toasted garlic before serving.

    From: http://homecookingrocks.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Monday, September 26, 2022 13:41:12
    Hi Dave,


    IIRC, Long John Silver's does use plates, as does Zaxby's. The latter
    are a recyclable plastic, don't remember the LJS ones.

    They use an equivalent of the Chi-Net paper/cardboard plate. My usual order at LJS comes in one of those pasteboard "boats"

    It has been a few years since we were at a LJS's. IIRC, last time we
    went was on our way home from an R-Pod rally in KY, October of 2018.
    Steve had to verify that the coating on the fish had no corn meal in it
    before we ordered--yes, it was safe for him.


    We recycle quite a bit--usually have more in the recycle bin than the regular trash. Wake Forest picks both up on a weekly basis--and, IIRC, does take all kinds of plastic, but not styrofoam.

    My recycle collection trucks have bins for clear glass, coloured
    glass, paper/cardboard and plastic. I asked once when I was recycling
    some soda cans about lumping plastic in one category. The lady told me they sort
    it into four types (didn't say what types) when the truck unloads.

    Everything goes into the truck and they separate it out at the unloading
    site. We have to put stuff in loose, no bags as plastic bags tend to get
    caught in the sorter's teeth.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 05:47:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    IIRC, Long John Silver's does use plates, as does Zaxby's. The latter
    are a recyclable plastic, don't remember the LJS ones.

    They use an equivalent of the Chi-Net paper/cardboard plate. My usual order at LJS comes in one of those pasteboard "boats"

    It has been a few years since we were at a LJS's. IIRC, last time we
    went was on our way home from an R-Pod rally in KY, October of 2018.
    Steve had to verify that the coating on the fish had no corn meal in it before we ordered--yes, it was safe for him.

    Long John's batter is a pretty good example of a tempura batter. But
    stay away from those hush puppies if there's a problem w/corn. Or you
    could carry benadryl. Bv)=

    We recycle quite a bit--usually have more in the recycle bin than the regular trash. Wake Forest picks both up on a weekly basis--and, IIRC, does take all kinds of plastic, but not styrofoam.

    My recycle collection trucks have bins for clear glass, coloured
    glass, paper/cardboard and plastic. I asked once when I was recycling
    some soda cans about lumping plastic in one category. The lady told me they sort it into four types (didn't say what types) when the truck unloads.

    Everything goes into the truck and they separate it out at the
    unloading site. We have to put stuff in loose, no bags as plastic bags tend to get caught in the sorter's teeth.

    No such restrictions here. The trucks are compartmented - so I guess
    the plastics get handled differently from glass and metal.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Tempura Mushrooms
    Categories: Five, Breads, Mushrooms, Appetisers
    Yield: 7 Servings

    5 tb A-P flour
    3 c Aunt Jemima's Deluxe easy
    - pour pancake batter mix *
    1/4 ts Baking soda
    3 1/2 c Club soda; room temp **
    1 1/2 c Water
    1 lb Button mushrooms; halved if
    - large

    * or Aunt Pajamas copycat mix (separate recipe)
    ** Beer may be used as well - but the flavour wiil
    be changed.

    Combine the flour pancake mix and baking soda in a
    deep bowl. Stirring constantly with a whisk or spoon
    pour in the club soda and water in a slow stream and
    continue to stir until the mixture is a smooth thin
    cream.

    Strain the batter through a fine sieve set over a
    clean bowl pressing down hard on any lumps with the
    back of a large spoon.

    Dip msuhrooms in batter and drop into the deep-fryer
    or fondue pot with oil at 350ºF-375ºF/175ºC-190ºC

    Cook until batter is a nice golden brown and crispy.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 13:14:25
    Hi Dave,

    It has been a few years since we were at a LJS's. IIRC, last time we
    went was on our way home from an R-Pod rally in KY, October of 2018.
    Steve had to verify that the coating on the fish had no corn meal in it before we ordered--yes, it was safe for him.

    Long John's batter is a pretty good example of a tempura batter. But
    stay away from those hush puppies if there's a problem w/corn. Or you could carry benadryl. Bv)=

    He will either ask them to leave off the hush puppies or, if he gets
    them, they'll go onto my plate. I'll usually eat a couple, then take the
    rest with me so I don't overload on the carbs. We'd not been to a LJS's
    since before recognising the corn allergy so we had to ask.


    We recycle quite a bit--usually have more in the recycle bin than the regular trash. Wake Forest picks both up on a weekly basis--and, IIRC, does take all kinds of plastic, but not styrofoam.

    My recycle collection trucks have bins for clear glass, coloured
    glass, paper/cardboard and plastic. I asked once when I was recycling
    some soda cans about lumping plastic in one category. The lady told me they sort it into four types (didn't say what types) when the truck unloads.

    Everything goes into the truck and they separate it out at the
    unloading site. We have to put stuff in loose, no bags as plastic bags tend to get caught in the sorter's teeth.

    No such restrictions here. The trucks are compartmented - so I guess
    the plastics get handled differently from glass and metal.

    As I understand what the town puts out here, the recycling goes to a
    place where it's all dumped onto one big belt, then sorted as it goes
    down the line. I can see where lightweight plastic bags might get thrown
    into the air, then sucked into the sorter's teeth, stopping the line
    until they were detangled.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Friday, September 30, 2022 05:11:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My recycle collection trucks have bins for clear glass, coloured
    glass, paper/cardboard and plastic. I asked once when I was recycling
    some soda cans about lumping plastic in one category. The lady told me they sort it into four types (didn't say what types) when the truck unloads.

    Everything goes into the truck and they separate it out at the
    unloading site. We have to put stuff in loose, no bags as plastic bags tend to get caught in the sorter's teeth.

    No such restrictions here. The trucks are compartmented - so I guess
    the plastics get handled differently from glass and metal.

    As I understand what the town puts out here, the recycling goes to a
    place where it's all dumped onto one big belt, then sorted as it goes
    down the line. I can see where lightweight plastic bags might get
    thrown into the air, then sucked into the sorter's teeth, stopping the line until they were detangled.

    I asked at the Lake Area Disposal headquarters yesterday when I took a
    couple bags of crushed soda cans in. I was told that they had tried the all-in-one and sort it method but the compartmented trucks and doing
    the sorting at the curbside worked best for them.

    They are contracted to the city and part of their deal is to employ
    workers from various re-hab programs. Sort of a win-win for all. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Caprese Chicken [Recipe Recycle]
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 (8 oz ea) chicken breasts;
    - boned, skinned
    1 pt Cherry tomatoes; halved
    1 md Red onion; diced
    2 tb Olive oil; divided
    4 sl (thick) buffalo mozzarella
    1/4 c Fresh basil; chopped
    2 lg Garlic cloves; chopped
    Salt & pepper
    Balsamic vinegar to taste

    In a large saute pan, add 1 tablespoon olive oil and
    turn to medium high heat. Sprinkle chicken with salt
    and pepper and add chicken to pan and cook about 10
    minutes on each side until no longer pink and cooked
    through.

    Meanwhile, add 1 tablespoon olive oil to a medium saute
    pan. Cook garlic until tender. Add halved cherry
    tomatoes and cook for 1-2 minutes until they start to
    wrinkle and skin softens. Add chopped basil.

    Top cooked chicken with mozzarella cheese and tomato
    mixture. Allow cheese to melt and splash with balsamic
    vinegar.

    Serves four

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, October 01, 2022 09:45:41
    Hi Dave,


    As I understand what the town puts out here, the recycling goes to a
    place where it's all dumped onto one big belt, then sorted as it goes
    down the line. I can see where lightweight plastic bags might get
    thrown into the air, then sucked into the sorter's teeth, stopping the line until they were detangled.

    I asked at the Lake Area Disposal headquarters yesterday when I took a couple bags of crushed soda cans in. I was told that they had tried
    the all-in-one and sort it method but the compartmented trucks and
    doing
    the sorting at the curbside worked best for them.

    Different strokes............


    They are contracted to the city and part of their deal is to employ workers from various re-hab programs. Sort of a win-win for all. Bv)=

    Very much so!


    Title: Caprese Chicken [Recipe Recycle]
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings


    Looks good but I'm out of tomatoes at the moment and not going out for a
    couple of days to get any. We're currently getting rain, some wind from
    the latest hurricane, as of about half an hour ago, about half an inch
    of rain. Storm still hadn't made 2nd landfall as of noon so I know we're
    going to get more wet weather before it's all over.

    Update Saturday morning. We've had about 2.6" of rain since it started yesterday morning. Down to a drizzle now but was quite intense at times.
    A tree blew down between our next door neighbor's house and the one next
    to that--no damage to the houses but probably some to the car that was
    on that side of the driveway. We had small branches and leaves come down
    but nothing major. Steve lowered antennas, picked up loose stuff in the
    yard, etc on Thursday, better to do it before the storm hits than have
    it go flying all over the neighborhood.


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