Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-
A 32 oz drink is 4 servings. WTF you're diabetic!
Not when the cup is packed w/crushed ice before beverage is added.
12 oz is considered a single serve of cold beverage in the lower 48.
You might be able to get 16 oz of beverage into one of those
ice-filled 32 oz cups
JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
A 32 oz drink is 4 servings. WTF you're diabetic!
Not when the cup is packed w/crushed ice before beverage is added.
I see. I didn't realise that. I never order soda pop with meals in restaurants.
12 oz is considered a single serve of cold beverage in the lower 48.
As it is here. A standard can is 355 ml. I rarely buy or drink soda
pop but when I do I pour 8 oz for me and 4 for Roslind.
You might be able to get 16 oz of beverage into one of those
ice-filled 32 oz cups
Still too much IMO.
Dave Drum wrote to Jim Weller <=-
But not in mine. I used to drink a *lot* of carbonated no-sugar
beverage at home. But this latest round of inflation has put the kibosh
to that. I have a nice liter-sized insulated cup which holds ice water wonderfully. That's now my standard "sipper" once I've finished with my morning coffee.
Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-
I never order soda pop with meals in restaurants.
At sit-down/table service restaurants my usual beverage order
is tap DD> water w/lemon (if available - to cut the chlorine
taste).
Beverage is often included in fats-food meals
I used to drink a *lot* of carbonated no-sugar beverage at home.
this latest round of inflation has put the kibosh to that.
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
But not in mine. I used to drink a *lot* of carbonated no-sugar
beverage at home. But this latest round of inflation has put the kibosh
to that. I have a nice liter-sized insulated cup which holds ice water wonderfully. That's now my standard "sipper" once I've finished with my morning coffee.
The carbination really irritates my ulcer else I'd drink more diet soda also. These days, I drink diet fruit-flavored drink mix.
JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
I never order soda pop with meals in restaurants.
At sit-down/table service restaurants my usual beverage order
is tap DD> water w/lemon (if available - to cut the chlorine
taste).
Depending on the food, the place and my mood it might be water, beer
or wine with a coffee after the meal.
At the Ethiopian place it's often Koseret, an herbal tea made with a
kind of African lemon verbena related to Mexican oregano.
Beverage is often included in fats-food meals
I haven't been to one since Aug 2015 when the old KFC right beside
my office shut down. Their combo meals allowed for pop to be
switched out to coffee, tea (the Dene choice), milk (just 1% unfortunately), lemonade or for a modest upcharge a bottle of apple
or orange juice.
Also they handed out cups and you filled your own drink at the
fountain and controlled the amount of ice you wanted. If I chose
that option I'd make a half portion that was 3/4 7-UP and 1/4 Orange
Crush with just a little ice.
I used to drink a *lot* of carbonated no-sugar beverage at home.
I don't do diet drinks at all, just enjoy the real thing
infrequently and in moderate portions.
this latest round of inflation has put the kibosh to that.
Due to inflation but a hotter than usual summer I have increased my consumption of soft drinks a bit and am buying less beer ($4.50 for
a 12 pack vs. $30.00). But mostly I'm drinking a lot of homemade ice
tea (various kinds) flavoured with fruit juices (again various
kinds).
At work my main drink is de-chlorinated reverse-osmosis filtered
water from the office cooler with a splash of lime juice.
Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-
I never order soda pop with meals in restaurants.
At sit-down/table service restaurants my usual beverage order
is tap DD> water w/lemon (if available - to cut the chlorine
taste).
Depending on the food, the place and my mood it might be water, beer
or wine with a coffee after the meal.
At the Ethiopian place it's often Koseret, an herbal tea made with a
kind of African lemon verbena related to Mexican oregano.
Beverage is often included in fats-food meals
I haven't been to one since Aug 2015 when the old KFC right beside
my office shut down. Their combo meals allowed for pop to be
switched out to coffee, tea (the Dene choice), milk (just 1% unfortunately), lemonade or for a modest upcharge a bottle of apple
or orange juice.
Also they handed out cups and you filled your own drink at the
fountain and controlled the amount of ice you wanted. If I chose
that option I'd make a half portion that was 3/4 7-UP and 1/4 Orange
Crush with just a little ice.
At work my main drink is de-chlorinated reverse-osmosis filtered
water from the office cooler with a splash of lime juice.
Ruth Haffly wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
area and PDQ (mostly chicken, not as good as CFA, IMO) has one. I
usually go for raspberry Diet Coke, again, no ice.
We've bought flavored sparkling water during the summer for several
years now. Depending on the brand you buy, the flavoring is either very subtle or more pronounced. Also, last time we made a major Sam's (or
maybe it was Costco, I forget which) run, we found a box of 3 dozen
Zevia sodas. They're made with stevia, no artificial colors or flavors. The box had 6 of each root beer, cream, cola, ginger ale, grape and
black cherry. Bought it about a month ago and we're barely half thru
it.
At work my main drink is de-chlorinated reverse-osmosis filtered
water from the office cooler with a splash of lime juice.
We have a reverse osmosis filter on our kitchen sink also. It was one
of the first projects Steve did after we bought the house; the water is used for drinking and cooking.
Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-
I never order soda pop with meals in restaurants ...
it might be water, beer or wine with a coffee after
Beverage is often included in fats-food meals
I haven't been to one since Aug 2015
Have you seen the machines Coke has out
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
area and PDQ (mostly chicken, not as good as CFA, IMO) has one. I
I have seen them but straight up Coke Zero or Diet A&W work well for
mt. And, if I can find it the Zero Sugar Dr. Pepper w/Cream Soda is
very nice.
We've bought flavored sparkling water during the summer for several
years now. Depending on the brand you buy, the flavoring is either very subtle or more pronounced. Also, last time we made a major Sam's (or
maybe it was Costco, I forget which) run, we found a box of 3 dozen
Zevia sodas. They're made with stevia, no artificial colors or flavors. The box had 6 of each root beer, cream, cola, ginger ale, grape and
black cherry. Bought it about a month ago and we're barely half thru
it.
I use the flavoured seltzers in my rotation of canned soda. And
sometimes just plain ol' Club Soda. The flavours are usually very
subtle. But it's all right-proper Belch Water. Bv)=
At work my main drink is de-chlorinated reverse-osmosis filtered
water from the office cooler with a splash of lime juice.
We have a reverse osmosis filter on our kitchen sink also. It was one
of the first projects Steve did after we bought the house; the water is used for drinking and cooking.
I learned, when keeping an aquarium w/tropical fish that you can let
tap water sit out in an open vessel and the chlorine in the water will out-gas on its own in 24 hours. Learned that from my fish vendor,
Aquaria Unlimited. You can also just boil the water for 8 to 10
minutes. So
saith https://smartaquariumguide.com/dechlorinate-tap-water-without-ch micals/
Which also mentions your reverse osmosis thingie. Bv)=
On 08-24-22 13:50, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dave Drum about soda pop <=-
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
area and PDQ (mostly chicken, not as good as CFA, IMO) has one. I
So often, Diet (or Zero) Coke, or diet pepsi, is the only diet drink available at many places to eat. That's why we so often order water
with lemon in restaurants. Sometimes I'll splurge on a Diet Coke, rare
but known to occaisionally happen, a diet pepsi.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
area and PDQ (mostly chicken, not as good as CFA, IMO) has one. I
I have seen them but straight up Coke Zero or Diet A&W work well for
mt. And, if I can find it the Zero Sugar Dr. Pepper w/Cream Soda is
very nice.
So often, Diet (or Zero) Coke, or diet pepsi, is the only diet drink available at many places to eat. That's why we so often order water
with lemon in restaurants. Sometimes I'll splurge on a Diet Coke, rare
but known to occaisionally happen, a diet pepsi.
We've bought flavored sparkling water during the summer for several
years now. Depending on the brand you buy, the flavoring is either very subtle or more pronounced. Also, last time we made a major Sam's (or
maybe it was Costco, I forget which) run, we found a box of 3 dozen
Zevia sodas. They're made with stevia, no artificial colors or flavors. The box had 6 of each root beer, cream, cola, ginger ale, grape and
black cherry. Bought it about a month ago and we're barely half thru
it.
I use the flavoured seltzers in my rotation of canned soda. And
sometimes just plain ol' Club Soda. The flavours are usually very
subtle. But it's all right-proper Belch Water. Bv)=
There are a number of companies around that can sparkling water. Used
to be, most boxes had a dozen cans, La Croix usually the exception with
8 cans to the box. Now, it seems, most canners put 8 in a box,
sometimes 6, but Wegman's has stayed with a dozen. They've got a good assortment of flavors to choose from as well; ginger is one that both Steve and I like. We tried their lime ginger but it wasn't as good as
the straight ginger.
Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
area and PDQ (mostly chicken, not as good as CFA, IMO) has one. I
The local Five-Guys has one of those machines also.
So often, Diet (or Zero) Coke, or diet pepsi, is the only diet drink available at many places to eat. That's why we so often order water
with lemon in restaurants. Sometimes I'll splurge on a Diet Coke, rare
but known to occaisionally happen, a diet pepsi.
It seems that many restaurants have an exclusive contract with pepsi or with coke. If you ask for some flavor of coke, the response might well
be "is pepsi alright?".
I never order soda pop with meals in restaurants ...
it might be water, beer or wine with a coffee after
Beverage is often included in fats-food meals
I haven't been to one since Aug 2015
Correction: I've been to Fat Burger twice since then.
Have you seen the machines Coke has out
Nope. See above.
Continuing with the radish sprouts ...
Title: Broiled Salmon Teriyaki Salad With Asian Dressing
Categories: Hawaiian, Salmon, Mushrooms, Eggs, Salads
Yield: 1 serving
Andy and Marian Wong, Byron II Steakhouse, Honolulu
... When did Santa Claus drinking Coke become a tradition?
On 08-26-22 04:57, Dave Drum <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: soda pop <=-
Godfather's Pizza (regional chain) which has a nice buffet features
Jones Soda in their dispensers. Every time I go there is some new and esoteric flavour available. Bv)= I stick with my usual tap water and lemon. But my companions often try out the "different" flavours.
They even had one called " Big Ass Canned Ham Soda" at one time.
Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Godfather's Pizza (regional chain) which has a nice buffet features
Jones Soda in their dispensers. Every time I go there is some new and esoteric flavour available. Bv)= I stick with my usual tap water and lemon. But my companions often try out the "different" flavours.
Our favored flavor fix from the coke machine is Barg's Root beer.
They even had one called " Big Ass Canned Ham Soda" at one time.
You made me recall that a local hardware store near Columbia had a end rack display of vintage soda bottles. I think that Dave Sacerdote
would have really liked to have had a look at them, but it never
happened and probably never will.
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
area and PDQ (mostly chicken, not as good as CFA, IMO) has one. I
The local Five-Guys has one of those machines also.
So often, Diet (or Zero) Coke, or diet pepsi, is the only diet drink available at many places to eat. That's why we so often order water
with lemon in restaurants. Sometimes I'll splurge on a Diet Coke, rare
but known to occaisionally happen, a diet pepsi.
It seems that many restaurants have an exclusive contract with pepsi
or with coke. If you ask for some flavor of coke, the response might
well be "is pepsi alright?".
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
I have seen them but straight up Coke Zero or Diet A&W work well for
mt. And, if I can find it the Zero Sugar Dr. Pepper w/Cream Soda is
very nice.
So often, Diet (or Zero) Coke, or diet pepsi, is the only diet drink available at many places to eat. That's why we so often order water
with lemon in restaurants. Sometimes I'll splurge on a Diet Coke, rare
but known to occaisionally happen, a diet pepsi.
I gave up on Burpsie Cola (Pepsi) years ago. Their colas are so tooth- achingly sweet ... even their diet stuff. Back around the turn of the
century Pepsi came out with a "diet" product called Pepsi One -
claiming but a single calorie in a 12 oz. serving. And it was pretty
good tasting a lot like Coca Cola. But it was hard to find and the gas station where I worked at the time could not get the route driver to
leave more than
minimal amounts of product - which always sold out quickly. Then Pepsi started promoting the "Pepsi One" and lots of product was available.
Sadly they had reformulated it away from the original taste. It did
not sell well.
We've bought flavored sparkling water during the summer for several
years now. Depending on the brand you buy, the flavoring is either very subtle or more pronounced. Also, last time we made a major Sam's (or
maybe it was Costco, I forget which) run, we found a box of 3 dozen
Zevia sodas. They're made with stevia, no artificial colors or flavors.
I use the flavoured seltzers in my rotation of canned soda. And
sometimes just plain ol' Club Soda. The flavours are usually very
subtle. But it's all right-proper Belch Water. Bv)=
sometimes 6, but Wegman's has stayed with a dozen. They've got a good assortment of flavors to choose from as well; ginger is one that both Steve and I like. We tried their lime ginger but it wasn't as good as
the straight ginger.
Haven't seen ginger. I like grapefruit, cranberry and cherry flavoured seltzers though.
Quoting Dale Shipp to Ruth Haffly <=-
It seems that many restaurants have an exclusive contract with
pepsi or with coke.
"is pepsi alright?".
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I gave up on Burpsie Cola (Pepsi) years ago. Their colas are so tooth- achingly sweet ... even their diet stuff. Back around the turn of the
Years ago my mom inherited some stock in Coke. Before that, I'd had one
or the other on a more limited basis but then my folks strted buying
all Coke products and I went with that in other places. Pepsi became
too sweet so I pretty much gave that up, except on rare occaisions and
its continued to be my norm.
century Pepsi came out with a "diet" product called Pepsi One -
claiming but a single calorie in a 12 oz. serving. And it was pretty
good tasting a lot like Coca Cola. But it was hard to find and the gas station where I worked at the time could not get the route driver to
leave more than
It was the same with "New Coke" in our area of central Texas (Fort
Hood) until Coke pulled it. Could get it in commissaries in Germany in
the late 80s for a while, then it was pulled also.
minimal amounts of product - which always sold out quickly. Then Pepsi started promoting the "Pepsi One" and lots of product was available.
Sadly they had reformulated it away from the original taste. It did
not sell well.
We've bought flavored sparkling water during the summer for several
years now. Depending on the brand you buy, the flavoring is either very subtle or more pronounced. Also, last time we made a major Sam's (or
maybe it was Costco, I forget which) run, we found a box of 3 dozen
Zevia sodas. They're made with stevia, no artificial colors or flavors.
I use the flavoured seltzers in my rotation of canned soda. And
sometimes just plain ol' Club Soda. The flavours are usually very
subtle. But it's all right-proper Belch Water. Bv)=
Belch water fits! I don't burp as much with Coke as I do the sparkling waters.
sometimes 6, but Wegman's has stayed with a dozen. They've got a good assortment of flavors to choose from as well; ginger is one that both Steve and I like. We tried their lime ginger but it wasn't as good as
the straight ginger.
Haven't seen ginger. I like grapefruit, cranberry and cherry flavoured seltzers though.
It's a Wegman's own flavor, not seen it in other brands.
On 08-26-22 15:27, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about soda pop <=-
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
area and PDQ (mostly chicken, not as good as CFA, IMO) has one. I
The local Five-Guys has one of those machines also.
Have you tried it? The number/assortment of flavors from one machine
is amazing!
I'm typing one handed again. Yesterday during a heavy rainstorm I fell
on the way into the house. Ended up breaking 2 bones in my right hand
and my left kneecap. Big time ouch!!!
It was the same with "New Coke" in our area of central Texas (Fort
Hood) until Coke pulled it. Could get it in commissaries in Germany in
the late 80s for a while, then it was pulled also.
New Coke (I tried it). I couldn't tell in a blind taste test whether
I was sipping New Coke or Pepsi. FEH! I gave it a good leaving alone.
As did most others.
I use the flavoured seltzers in my rotation of canned soda. And
sometimes just plain ol' Club Soda. The flavours are usually very
subtle. But it's all right-proper Belch Water. Bv)=
Belch water fits! I don't burp as much with Coke as I do the sparkling waters.
sometimes 6, but Wegman's has stayed with a dozen. They've got a good assortment of flavors to choose from as well; ginger is one that both Steve and I like. We tried their lime ginger but it wasn't as good as
the straight ginger.
Haven't seen ginger. I like grapefruit, cranberry and cherry flavoured seltzers though.
It's a Wegman's own flavor, not seen it in other brands.
Someone is making it for them - many labels have ginger seltzer
availabe Langers Origanic, AVEC Mixers, Polar (the brand I usually
buy) Bubly (8 packs), Nixie, Lifewater, etc. My favourite Polar
flavour (currently)
is Cranberry-Lime.
Have you seen the machines Coke has out where you can get your choice
of Coke products? Around here, Wegman's has one in their food court
The local Five-Guys has one of those machines also.
Have you tried it? The number/assortment of flavors from one machine
is amazing!
We have used it, and I think that is a good thing. Normal fountain
sodas are usually limited to 6-8 choices.
I'm typing one handed again. Yesterday during a heavy rainstorm I fell
on the way into the house. Ended up breaking 2 bones in my right hand
and my left kneecap. Big time ouch!!!
Ouch indeed! How long will your hand be out of action?
I recall that you make your own croutons and bread stuffing. Perhaps
this recipe will give you some other ideas for spicing them.
Title: Croutons
Categories: Tested, Easy
Yield: 1 Batch
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
It's a Wegman's own flavor, not seen it in other brands.
Someone is making it for them - many labels have ginger seltzer
availabe Langers Origanic, AVEC Mixers, Polar (the brand I usually
buy) Bubly (8 packs), Nixie, Lifewater, etc. My favourite Polar
flavour (currently)
is Cranberry-Lime.
We usually stick with Wegman's brands if we can. For travel, it's whatever's availabe, usually LaCroix or Bubbly.
buy) Bubly (8 packs), Nixie, Lifewater, etc. My favourite Polar
flavour (currently)
is Cranberry-Lime.
We usually stick with Wegman's brands if we can. For travel, it's whatever's availabe, usually LaCroix or Bubbly.
Both of those are "premiumP brands in this area. Price-wise, anyway.
Polar is a Taxachussetts firm (Worcester, MA) since 1882. They have a licence/franchise agreement with Keurig-Dr. Pepper and thus are now a
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
buy) Bubly (8 packs), Nixie, Lifewater, etc. My favourite Polar
flavour (currently)
is Cranberry-Lime.
We usually stick with Wegman's brands if we can. For travel, it's whatever's availabe, usually LaCroix or Bubbly.
Both of those are "premiumP brands in this area. Price-wise, anyway.
LaCroix is the premium brand around here; Bubbly is run of the mill,
IMO.
Polar is a Taxachussetts firm (Worcester, MA) since 1882. They have a licence/franchise agreement with Keurig-Dr. Pepper and thus are now a
We got/drank the Polar water the 6 months we were stationed at Fort Devens. Had to pay deposit on the cans so tried to keep consumption
down.
buy) Bubly (8 packs), Nixie, Lifewater, etc. My favourite Polar
flavour (currently)
is Cranberry-Lime.
We usually stick with Wegman's brands if we can. For travel, it's whatever's availabe, usually LaCroix or Bubbly.
Both of those are "premiumP brands in this area. Price-wise, anyway.
LaCroix is the premium brand around here; Bubbly is run of the mill,
IMO.
My local stores certainly don't price it like run-of-the-mill. Their 8 packs are priced right with LeCroix ... and more than Polar's 12 pack.
Polar is a Taxachussetts firm (Worcester, MA) since 1882. They have a licence/franchise agreement with Keurig-Dr. Pepper and thus are now a
We got/drank the Polar water the 6 months we were stationed at Fort Devens. Had to pay deposit on the cans so tried to keep consumption
down.
That will vary state-to-state. Some states have a can/container
deposit and others don't.* When I was a youngster soda (and beer)
bottles were
washed and reused. So, there was a bottle deposit charged if one took
them off the premises. That 2c per bottle wasn't a lot but it did add
up. I used to collect discarded soda bottles around my neighbourhood
and ca$h them in for movie or Dairy Queen money.
*STATES WITH CONTAINER DEPOSIT LAWS; California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Guam
On 09-01-22 13:34, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dave Drum about soda pop <=-
The HI one came out while we were there; cut our (my) consumption dramatically. I don't think we even filled one grocery (brown paper)
bag in the remaining 3 years we were over there.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
buy) Bubly (8 packs), Nixie, Lifewater, etc. My favourite Polar
flavour (currently)
is Cranberry-Lime.
We usually stick with Wegman's brands if we can. For travel, it's whatever's availabe, usually LaCroix or Bubbly.
Both of those are "premiumP brands in this area. Price-wise, anyway.
LaCroix is the premium brand around here; Bubbly is run of the mill,
IMO.
My local stores certainly don't price it like run-of-the-mill. Their 8 packs are priced right with LeCroix ... and more than Polar's 12 pack.
Guess it just depends on your taste and location.
Polar is a Taxachussetts firm (Worcester, MA) since 1882. They have a licence/franchise agreement with Keurig-Dr. Pepper and thus are now a
We got/drank the Polar water the 6 months we were stationed at Fort Devens. Had to pay deposit on the cans so tried to keep consumption
down.
That will vary state-to-state. Some states have a can/container
deposit and others don't.* When I was a youngster soda (and beer)
bottles were
washed and reused. So, there was a bottle deposit charged if one took
them off the premises. That 2c per bottle wasn't a lot but it did add
up. I used to collect discarded soda bottles around my neighbourhood
and ca$h them in for movie or Dairy Queen money.
My parents didn't drink that much and never let us kids "scrounge"
bottles in the neighborhood. Bottles they emptied/returned were turned back into grocery money.
*STATES WITH CONTAINER DEPOSIT LAWS; California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Guam
The HI one came out while we were there; cut our (my) consumption dramatically. I don't think we even filled one grocery (brown paper)
bag in the remaining 3 years we were over there.
Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-
The HI one came out while we were there; cut our (my) consumption dramatically. I don't think we even filled one grocery (brown paper)
bag in the remaining 3 years we were over there.
Around here, there is a $0.05 charge for plastic bags. I believe it is
an ordinance that varies with county, but it may be state wide. I'm uncertain if the stores charge for paper bags -- if they have any.
OTOH, the restaurants in our village give out a lot of paper bags with handles which have multiple recycle options. There are places that collect them for things like food banks, school lunches, etc.
The HI one came out while we were there; cut our (my) consumption dramatically. I don't think we even filled one grocery (brown paper)
bag in the remaining 3 years we were over there.
Around here, there is a $0.05 charge for plastic bags. I believe it
is an ordinance that varies with county, but it may be state wide.
I'm
uncertain if the stores charge for paper bags -- if they have any.
OTOH, the restaurants in our village give out a lot of paper bags with handles which have multiple recycle options. There are places that collect them for things like food banks, school lunches, etc.
Guess it just depends on your taste and location.
What taste? Even the flavoured seltzers have very little taste. Just a hint
Polar is a Taxachussetts firm (Worcester, MA) since 1882. They have a licence/franchise agreement with Keurig-Dr. Pepper and thus are now a
We got/drank the Polar water the 6 months we were stationed at Fort Devens. Had to pay deposit on the cans so tried to keep consumption
down.
That will vary state-to-state. Some states have a can/container
deposit and others don't.* When I was a youngster soda (and beer)
bottles were
washed and reused. So, there was a bottle deposit charged if one took
them off the premises. That 2c per bottle wasn't a lot but it did add
up. I used to collect discarded soda bottles around my neighbourhood
and ca$h them in for movie or Dairy Queen money.
My parents didn't drink that much and never let us kids "scrounge"
bottles in the neighborhood. Bottles they emptied/returned were turned back into grocery money.
What scrounging? It was clean-up. Or enterprise. Not much different
from mowing lawns or delivering newspapers.
*STATES WITH CONTAINER DEPOSIT LAWS; California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Guam
The HI one came out while we were there; cut our (my) consumption dramatically. I don't think we even filled one grocery (brown paper)
bag in the remaining 3 years we were over there.
The container deposit laws were designed to cut down on litter, waste,
and depletion of resources. Seems to have helped. Bv)=
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
My parents didn't drink that much and never let us kids "scrounge"
bottles in the neighborhood. Bottles they emptied/returned were turned back into grocery money.
What scrounging? It was clean-up. Or enterprise. Not much different
from mowing lawns or delivering newspapers.
Scrounging as in looking among weeds on the roadside. Back before littering wasn't as much a "crime" as it is now and people blithely discarded trash from moving vehicles.
*STATES WITH CONTAINER DEPOSIT LAWS; California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon, Vermont, Guam
The HI one came out while we were there; cut our (my) consumption dramatically. I don't think we even filled one grocery (brown paper)
bag in the remaining 3 years we were over there.
The container deposit laws were designed to cut down on litter,
waste, and depletion of resources. Seems to have helped. Bv)=
Depends; some people recycle their containers faithfully; others don't care that much about getting their money back. In HI, after we stopped buying a lot of recyclable containers, we just washed them out and
tossed them into a grocery bag. Our church youth group had a fundraiser for camp the summer before we left, asked for recyclables so we donated the bag and, IIRC, some $$ above what the cans would have brought.
What scrounging? It was clean-up. Or enterprise. Not much different
from mowing lawns or delivering newspapers.
Scrounging as in looking among weeds on the roadside. Back before littering wasn't as much a "crime" as it is now and people blithely discarded trash from moving vehicles.
Your scrounging is my clean-up. Bv)=
The real "scrouger" is the guy/gal who picks through the discards at
the city dump/public landfill for resellable items.
waste, and depletion of resources. Seems to have helped. Bv)=
Depends; some people recycle their containers faithfully; others don't care that much about getting their money back. In HI, after we stopped buying a lot of recyclable containers, we just washed them out and
tossed them into a grocery bag. Our church youth group had a fundraiser for camp the summer before we left, asked for recyclables so we donated the bag and, IIRC, some $$ above what the cans would have brought.
I like to think I'm relatively thrifty. I've never had enough ca$h-on- hand that I ever felt comfortable throwing away assets that could be turned into money thence into food/shelter.
Title: N.Y.T. Ropa Vieja
Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Fruits
Yield: 4 servings
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
What scrounging? It was clean-up. Or enterprise. Not much different
from mowing lawns or delivering newspapers.
Scrounging as in looking among weeds on the roadside. Back before littering wasn't as much a "crime" as it is now and people blithely discarded trash from moving vehicles.
Your scrounging is my clean-up. Bv)=
Clean up would entail removal of all waste--foam drink cup, burger
boxes, and other such trash. Scrounging is digging thru all that mess
to get to the recyclable bottle. (G)
I like to think I'm relatively thrifty. I've never had enough ca$h-on- hand that I ever felt comfortable throwing away assets that could be turned into money thence into food/shelter.
We try not to either. That's why places like ReStore or Goodwill get donations every so often.
Title: N.Y.T. Ropa Vieja
Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Fruits
Yield: 4 servings
Looks good; I'll have to see how iy compares to the recipies for the
same in my Mexican cook books.
Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-
Around here, there is a $0.05 charge for plastic bags. I believe it is
an ordinance that varies with county, but it may be state wide. I'm uncertain if the stores charge for paper bags -- if they have any.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Clean up would entail removal of all waste--foam drink cup, burger
boxes, and other such trash. Scrounging is digging thru all that mess
to get to the recyclable bottle. (G)
At the time I was doing this (in my youth) there were no styrofoam
cups or burger boxes to be had. Anywhere. Also no aluminium cans.
Bv)=
But there were paper cups and sandwich wrappers. Also, cigarette packs, candy bar wrappers, etc.
I like to think I'm relatively thrifty. I've never had enough ca$h-on- hand that I ever felt comfortable throwing away assets that could be turned into money thence into food/shelter.
We try not to either. That's why places like ReStore or Goodwill get donations every so often.
Ditto
Title: N.Y.T. Ropa Vieja
Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Fruits
Yield: 4 servings
Looks good; I'll have to see how it compares to the recipies for
the RH> same in my Mexican cook books.
Errrrrrrmmmmmm Ropa Vieja is a Cuban thing. Mexicans may have adopted
it, though.
Yes, they have. Similar cultures in a lot of ways, even foods.
This Cuban sandwich is my favourite Jimmy John's order:
Title: Cubano Sandwich
Categories: Breads, Cheese, Pork, Vegetables
Yield: 10 servings
Looks good--I've been to a JJ's once--out in LV, NV when our older daughter was living there.
At the time I was doing this (in my youth) there were no styrofoam
cups or burger boxes to be had. Anywhere. Also no aluminium cans.
Bv)=
But there were paper cups and sandwich wrappers. Also, cigarette packs, candy bar wrappers, etc.
What paper cups and sandwich wrappers? Fats food was not a thing then. McDonalds did not even have its first location until 1955. And wasn't
in my area until 1957 .... with one store.
I like to think I'm relatively thrifty. I've never had enough ca$h-on- hand that I ever felt comfortable throwing away assets that could be turned into money thence into food/shelter.
We try not to either. That's why places like ReStore or Goodwill get donations every so often.
Ditto
Title: N.Y.T. Ropa Vieja
Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Fruits
Yield: 4 servings
Looks good; I'll have to see how it compares to the recipies for
the RH> same in my Mexican cook books.
Errrrrrrmmmmmm Ropa Vieja is a Cuban thing. Mexicans may have adopted
it, though.
Yes, they have. Similar cultures in a lot of ways, even foods.
As Weller told me an another post every Spanish speaking political sub division seems to have its own version. I've not seen it on offer at
any of the many authentic Mexican venues around this area.
This Cuban sandwich is my favourite Jimmy John's order:
Title: Cubano Sandwich
Categories: Breads, Cheese, Pork, Vegetables
Yield: 10 servings
Looks good--I've been to a JJ's once--out in LV, NV when our older daughter was living there.
Jimmy John Liautaud is almost a homie and a real person. His chain is
much nicer (for my $$$) than Subway. There is a JJ's on Wake Forest
Rd. in Raliegh. (and seven other locations).
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
What paper cups and sandwich wrappers? Fats food was not a thing then. McDonalds did not even have its first location until 1955. And wasn't
in my area until 1957 .... with one store.
There were (and still are) mom and pop type places where you could get
a burger or hot dog, fries and a drink to go. I remember one in a town about an hour from us; our bus load of Girl Scouts stopped there on the way to & from camp. It was called The Pink Pig--had only picnic tables outside, no indoor seating so I'm sure lots of paper was lost to
breezes that came up out of nowhere.
I like to think I'm relatively thrifty. I've never had enough ca$h-on- hand that I ever felt comfortable throwing away assets that could be turned into money thence into food/shelter.
We try not to either. That's why places like ReStore or Goodwill get donations every so often.
Ditto
Title: N.Y.T. Ropa Vieja
Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Fruits
Yield: 4 servings
Looks good; I'll have to see how it compares to the recipies for
the RH> same in my Mexican cook books.
Errrrrrrmmmmmm Ropa Vieja is a Cuban thing. Mexicans may have adopted
it, though.
Yes, they have. Similar cultures in a lot of ways, even foods.
As Weller told me an another post every Spanish speaking political sub division seems to have its own version. I've not seen it on offer at
any of the many authentic Mexican venues around this area.
I've seen it in various places; it's one of my usual orders.
This Cuban sandwich is my favourite Jimmy John's order:
Title: Cubano Sandwich
Categories: Breads, Cheese, Pork, Vegetables
Yield: 10 servings
Looks good--I've been to a JJ's once--out in LV, NV when our older daughter was living there.
Jimmy John Liautaud is almost a homie and a real person. His chain is
much nicer (for my $$$) than Subway. There is a JJ's on Wake Forest
Rd. in Raliegh. (and seven other locations).
We've passed it many times, just never stopped in. Fast food out, when we're around home, is usually C-F-A.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Eating whilst going down the road was not a "thing" in the 1940s
and/or early '50s. There were drive-in with car-side service by
Probably depended on the family--my parents usually packed a lunch for travel but we'd stop at a roadside picnic table, weather permitting. If
it wasn't good weather, we'd stay in the car to eat. I know we had to
pick up/stow or dispose of all our trash but there may have been times when paper flew out of the roadside can before DOT or whoever came
around to empty it.
car-hops and
similar ... Sonic is an attempted revival of that model. But I fear
it has gone the way of the drive-in movie theater.
Still around in some places but getting as scarce as hen's teeth.
I'm much more likely to get something involving pork, refritoes and
rice. There is a short list (in my area) of Latino venues that offer
pork in addition to the more usual chicken and beef dishes.
I'll go for a combo plate (whatever with rice and beans) sometimes but only if what I'm wanting isn't available otherwise. We have several Mexican places here in town, a couple of them have a location in other towns as well (not enough to be called a chain) so there's a lot of
good food to choose from. One of my favorites at one place has shrimp, bell pepper, onion, mushrooms and summer squash with a crema sauce.
This Cuban sandwich is my favourite Jimmy John's order:
Title: Cubano Sandwich
Categories: Breads, Cheese, Pork, Vegetables
Yield: 10 servings
Looks good--I've been to a JJ's once--out in LV, NV when our older daughter was living there.
Jimmy John Liautaud is almost a homie and a real person. His chain is
much nicer (for my $$$) than Subway. There is a JJ's on Wake Forest
Rd. in Raliegh. (and seven other locations).
We've passed it many times, just never stopped in. Fast food out, when we're around home, is usually C-F-A.
If you're in the mood for non-chicken, Jimmy John's is a much better sandwich than Subway.
We will sometimes go to a Subway while travelling; a number of Pilot/Flying J truck stops have a Subway as part of their stores. It'll make for a get back on the road fast, without taking the time to make lunch & do the clean up meal. But, that may be once, if that, in a road trip of several weeks; we're not trying to "make time/miles" very
often.
On 09-15-22 06:23, Dave Drum <=-
spoke to Ruth Haffly about Re: soda pop <=-
The thing is - paper, even the waxed paper beverage cups, is/was bio- degradable. While unsightly it would merge back into the earth. Modern plastics and plasticised wrappers have made litter a MUCH bigger issue than it used to was.
But even the indoor theatres are getting scarce, done in by Netflix, Peacock and other streaming services. Two of our "Cinneplex"
multi-screen locations are now being used as indoor marijuana
cultivation facilities.
Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-
The thing is - paper, even the waxed paper beverage cups, is/was bio- degradable. While unsightly it would merge back into the earth. Modern plastics and plasticised wrappers have made litter a MUCH bigger issue than it used to was.
Our community does a good job of recyling. Paper in one container, plastics (except for #6) into another. They used to recycle glass, but had to stop that when the collector say no more glass. I suspect that breakage was too high and shards were a hazard for collecting DNA.
But even the indoor theatres are getting scarce, done in by Netflix, Peacock and other streaming services. Two of our "Cinneplex"
multi-screen locations are now being used as indoor marijuana
cultivation facilities.
I am not a fan of streaming services. Why watch something my computer screen by myself when both of us can watch things on a screen 4+ times
as large.
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