• Re: Wine was:Fish

    From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sunday, July 24, 2022 01:47:04
    On 07-23-22 06:17, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Wine was:Fish <=-

    Not sure what you would substitute for the sherry.
    But, I expect that you know:-}}

    Is Sean a teetotaler? I thought that was the Hafflys.

    Even more so than the Hafflys. He is Mormon, and it is one of several
    things that are forbidden by that religion. The Hafflys are a flavor
    of Southern Baptists and that religion discourages alcohol, but it is
    allowed in moderation (except when Steve was in Seminary).


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Slow Cooker French Onion Soup
    Categories: East, Tested
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 lb Valdaila onions
    1/4 c BUTTER
    1 tb Sugar
    ds Salt / pepper to taste
    4 c Beef broth
    1 tb SHERRY
    1/4 ts Garlic powder

    MMMMM----- garnish -------
    Garnish
    4 sl French breaD
    4 sl CHEESE

    Peel and slice onion in half, using mandolin slice about 1/4 inch.
    Put butter and raw onions in large fry pan, cover and cook over med
    heat, sweat onions until are soft and lightly brown in color.

    Pour beef broth into crockpot. Add cooked onions set heat on high.
    Cover and cook for 3 hours, Add sherry and garlic powder.

    tested 5/27/17

    Very rich flavor We used beef broth made while cooking beef pot
    roast. Will do again using canned broth

    Reheat soup in microwave. Toast sliced bread. Place bread on top of
    ceramic bowl filled with soup. place cheese on top, broil until cheese
    melts

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, July 24, 2022 05:49:08
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Is Sean a teetotaler? I thought that was the Hafflys.

    Yes and no. I should be but once in a while I'll have a shot with a friend. With the health issues I have, I have to be careful with
    anything that is carb-heavy, alcoholic or not.

    I am almost a teetotaller. I sometimes use wine in my cookery. But I've
    not had a drink of anything alcoholic since the last echo picnic when
    the Shipps were still in columbia. Just haven't had the "taste" or the
    occasion wasn't right.

    FYI: from what Michael told me, even though the name of the echo is the "National Cooking Echo", it's always had an international audience.

    Also, I may be a bit crazy but I don't feel the need to make up a
    strawman to express my opinions as I am secure enough in my manhood to express my opinions and stand behind them right or wrong. <G>

    Form posts seen in other download packets it would seem that personalities
    are merging.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sean's Accidental Pasta Dinner
    Categories: Pasta, Main dish, Sean dennis
    Yield: 6 Quarts

    What was the "accident"?

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    Shredded Cheddar cheese

    Being out of mozzarella?

    Looks decent. I'd eat it if offered.

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    Adopted/stolen

    Here's mine - but it's no accident. And I have made it with macaroni as
    well as penne.

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    Title: Baked Spaghetti
    Categories: Pasta, Pork, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 9 Servings

    3/4 lb Vermicelli or thin spaghetti
    1 lb Bulk Italian sausage
    1/4 lb Shiitake or cremini
    - mushrooms; rough chopped
    1 md Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1/4 ts Red pepper flakes
    3 c Marinara or meatless tomato
    - sauce *
    1 1/2 c Water
    1 tb Italian seasoning
    1/4 c Chopped fresh parsley
    1 tb Olive oil + more to grease
    - the casserole
    1 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    2 lg Eggs; beaten
    1 c Ricotta cheese
    2 c (to 3 c) shredded mozzarella
    - cheese

    * You can make your own or use a good quality jarred
    sauce.

    Put a large pot of water on the stove on high heat. Add
    salt to the water, about 2 Tbsp for 6 quarts of water.
    While the pasta water is heating, continue with the next
    steps.

    Break up the sausage into clumps into a large saut++ pan.
    Turn the heat on, to medium. Slowly cook the sausage,
    breaking it up into smaller pieces with the a wooden
    spoon. The slow cooking will help the fat render out. Cook
    until the sausage is cooked through, no longer pink
    anywhere, and lightly browned. Remove the sausage from the
    pan with a slotted spoon and set aside. Drain the fat from
    the pan (not into your sink or you may clog it!)

    Add the chopped onions and mushrooms to the pan. Increase
    the heat to medium high. Cook, stirring frequently, until
    the onions become translucent and the mushrooms have given
    up some of their liquid. Add the minced garlic and red
    chile pepper flakes, and cook a minute more.

    Add the marinara sauce and the 1 1/2 cups of water to the
    pan with the onions and mushrooms. Add the sausage back to
    the pan. Add the Italian seasoning and chopped parsley.
    Bring to a simmer and reduce the heat to a very low simmer
    on the lowest simmer setting on your stovetop. Cook for 10
    to 15 minutes or so while you make the pasta.

    By this time your pasta water in step one should be
    boiling. Add the pasta to the boiling water and cook,
    uncovered, at a rolling boil, for 5 to 6 minutes, al
    dente. Note that the pasta will continue to cook and
    absorb some of the sauce when it is in the casserole dish
    in the oven, so the pasta should be al dente. When ready,
    drain the pasta and rinse in cold water.

    Place the cooled pasta in a large bowl. Toss with olive
    oil, then the Parmesan, then 2 beaten eggs. It's easiest
    to do this with your (clean) hands.

    Set your oven @ 350+|F/175+|C.

    Rub the inside of a 13" x 9" casserole dish (a Pyrex dish
    works great) with olive oil. Spread 1 cup of the sauce
    over the bottom of the casserole dish.

    Place half of the pasta in an even layer in the casserole
    dish.

    Cover with half of the sauce. Then dot the sauce with all
    of the ricotta cheese. Sprinkle half of the Mozzarella
    over the ricotta layer. Layer again with the remaining
    pasta, the remaining sauce, and the remaining Mozzarella.

    Cover with foil and bake for 40 min at 350+|F/175+|C.

    Remove the foil and bake an additional 20 minutes
    uncovered. Remove from oven and let rest for at least 10
    minutes before cutting into squares and serving.

    Yield: Serves 8 to 10

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, July 24, 2022 06:31:20
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Not sure what you would substitute for the sherry.
    But, I expect that you know:-}}

    Is Sean a teetotaler? I thought that was the Hafflys.

    Even more so than the Hafflys. He is Mormon, and it is one of several things that are forbidden by that religion. The Hafflys are a flavor
    of Southern Baptists and that religion discourages alcohol, but it is allowed in moderation (except when Steve was in Seminary).

    Apparently he does take a tipple from time to time. I'm not at all
    religious - I have my own value system which consists of treating
    others in the manner in which I'd like to be treated. And I do not
    suffer fools gladly. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fool-proof Beef & Broccoli
    Categories: Beef, Soups, Pasta, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3/4 lb Boneless beef sirloin steak
    1 tb Vegetable oil
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    1 md Onion; in wedges
    10 1/4 oz Campbell's Cream of
    - Broccoli Soup
    1/4 c Water
    1 tb Soy sauce
    2 c Broccoli flowerets
    Hot cooked noodles

    Slice beef across the grain into very thin strips.

    In skillet, over medium-high heat, in hot oil, cook beef
    and garlic until beef is browned. Add onion. Cook for 5
    minutes stirring often.

    Stir in soup, water and soy sauce. Heat to boiling. Add
    broccoli.

    Reduce heat to low. Cover, simmer for 5 minutes or until
    vegetables are tender. Serve over noodles.

    Makes 4 servings.

    TIP: To make slicing easier, freeze beef for 1 hour.

    Posted by Stephen Ceideberg; October 14 1992.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, July 23, 2022 06:17:00
    Dale Shipp wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Nor do I. When I was a child, we used mackerel as fish bait. Later
    on, we used canned mackerel as cat food. BUT, I have heard that
    like bluefish, mackerel can be quite good if eaten when caught --
    but that it deteriates rather quickly.

    Not sure what you would substitute for the sherry.
    But, I expect that you know:-}}

    Is Sean a teetotaler? I thought that was the Hafflys.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken, Mushrooms & Tomatoes w/Port Wine
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Mushrooms, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 Boned chicken breast halves
    - or thighs
    Salt & pepper
    6 cl Garlic; peeled
    2 tb Butter
    1/4 lb Cremini mushrooms; halved,
    - quartered if large
    3 tb Fine chopped shallot
    1/4 c Port wine
    4 sm (3/4 pound) plum tomatoes;
    - cored, quartered
    =+OR=+
    3/4 lb Cherry tomatoes; halved
    2 tb Chopped parsley; garnish

    Sprinkle the chicken on both sides with salt & pepper.

    Drop the garlic into a small saucepan of boiling water,
    cook for 5 minutes, and set aside. When cool, peel of
    the skins.

    Heat the butter in a heavy skillet and add the chicken
    pieces. Cook over medium high heat for about 1 minute,
    or until lightly browned on one side. Turn and cook for
    about 1 minute on the second side.

    Add the mushrooms and cook, turning chicken
    occasionally, for about 2 minutes.

    Add the shallots and the garlic cloves to the pan. Add
    the Port wine, tomatoes, salt and pepper to taste.

    Cover and cook for 10 minutes, or until the chicken is
    cooked through.

    Transfer the chicken, mushrooms, and tomatoes to a warm
    platter.

    If the sauce is too thin, cook it down for a minute or
    two. Pour the sauce over the chicken and sprinkle with
    chopped parsley.

    UDD NOTES: I used Merlot wine as it was what was at
    hand. Worked well. I used Cajun shallots (green onion)
    chopped, slicing the tops to use for garnish along with
    the chopped parsley.

    By ELISE BAUER

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Saturday, July 23, 2022 12:33:12
    Dave Drum wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    Is Sean a teetotaler? I thought that was the Hafflys.

    Yes and no. I should be but once in a while I'll have a shot with a friend. With the health issues I have, I have to be careful with anything that is carb-heavy, alcoholic or not.

    FYI: from what Michael told me, even though the name of the echo is the "National Cooking Echo", it's always had an international audience.

    Also, I may be a bit crazy but I don't feel the need to make up a strawman
    to express my opinions as I am secure enough in my manhood to express my opinions and stand behind them right or wrong. <G>

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    Title: Sean's Accidental Pasta Dinner
    Categories: Pasta, Main dish, Sean dennis
    Yield: 6 Quarts

    1 Box (32 oz) chicken broth
    1 Can (24 oz) pasta sauce
    2 c Water
    1 Box (1 lb) elbow macaroni
    1 lb Sweet (mild) bulk Italian
    --sausage
    4 Scallions, finely chopped
    1 Can (16.4 oz) mushrooms
    --"bits and pieces"

    MMMMM-------------------------SEASONINGS------------------------------
    1/4 t Salt
    Italian seasoning*
    Shake Parmaesan cheese

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    Shredded Cheddar cheese

    Pour broth, pasta sauce, and water into 6 quart Dutch oven. Put lid
    on pot and bring to a rolling boil. Add seasoning to taste. Stir
    well to combine.

    While broth and pasta sauce come to a boil, brown the Italian sausage
    in a skillet. Drain if necessary. Remove from heat, cover pan, and
    set aside. Chop scallions, removing root tip and any dried stem
    parts. Cut on bias into thin strips. Set aside.

    When sauce mixture is at a rolling boil, add macaroni. Boil for
    around 15-20 minutes uncovered. Stir occasionally. Taste test
    macaroni occasionally to make sure it is not overcooked (mushy).

    When macaroni is done, immediately remove Dutch oven from heat to a
    trivet. Add copious amounts of Parmaesan cheese, Italian sausage,
    scallions, and well-drained mushrooms; stir to mix well. Add as much
    shredded Cheddar cheese as you like. Put lid on Dutch oven and let
    sit for 20 minutes or longer.

    * = The "Italian seasoning" I like to use is Kingsford Garlic & Herbs
    Rustic Tuscan Style All-Purpose Seasoning.

    NOTES:

    ~ A 6 quart stockpot can be used instead of a Dutch oven.

    ~ Make sure to keep an eye on the macaroni while it is cooking and to
    stir to prevent clumping.

    ~ The 20 minutes rest time is to allow the pasta to completely absorb
    the sauce and for the Cheddar cheese to melt deliciously all over the
    top.

    ~ The pasta will not be fully cooked after 15 minutes but the rest
    time will allow the pasta to absorb the sauce and still have a bit of
    a toothsome feel.

    ~ Feel free to experiment with seasonings and toppings. That's one
    of the best parts of the recipe!

    ~ This makes a LOT of food. Cut all ingredient amounts in half to
    make a good dinner for two or one hungry individual.

    Makes six quarts. This enough to feed quite a lot of people in one
    sitting or one hungry Sean for about a week of leftovers.

    Recipe created quite by accident in the kitchen of Sean Dennis
    (1:18/200@Fidonet). MM'd by Sean on 29 January 2022.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sunday, July 24, 2022 15:50:08
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I am almost a teetotaller. I sometimes use wine in my cookery. But I've not had a drink of anything alcoholic since the last echo picnic when
    the Shipps were still in columbia. Just haven't had the "taste" or the occasion wasn't right.

    I have had wine before but it tastes like rotten grape juice to me.
    It's my overly sensitive bitter taster at work.

    Form posts seen in other download packets it would seem that
    personalities are merging.

    I dusted off Mr. Twit Filter and it stays on from now on.

    Title: Sean's Accidental Pasta Dinner
    What was the "accident"?

    I misread the recipe and by accident created my own spin. <G>

    Being out of mozzarella?

    Can't chew mozzarella without teeth. I absolutely LOVE mozzarella--it's better for me being a fresh cheese rather than Cheddar--but Cheddar
    works too.

    Looks decent. I'd eat it if offered.

    Thanks for the complement. I hope to have someone (or several someones)
    to cook that for some day.

    Adopted/stolen

    It's true though...

    Here's mine - but it's no accident. And I have made it with macaroni as well as penne.

    Title: Baked Spaghetti
    1/4 lb Shiitake or cremini

    Yum. That's definitely an addition I need to make to my recipe.

    1/4 ts Red pepper flakes

    A must even if it causes Mr. Ulcer to complain a bit. Love the slight
    bite red pepper flakes offer.

    Saved the recipe. Once I can get a cassarole dish, I'll make that also.

    ... If you stomp gripes, do you get whine?

    Would you like cheese with that whine? (Something a friend's dad used o
    say to me in my teens...)

    I've made this before using one of my mom's Romertopf dishes:

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    Title: Roast Chicken in a Clay Baker
    Categories: Main dish, Chicken, Clay pot, Seandennis
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 4-5 lb. whole chicken
    6 To 8 small potatoes, cut
    In half
    4 To 6 garlic cloves, peeled
    And left whole
    10 Or more baby carrots
    1 Large onion cut into eighths
    8 To 10 mushroom caps
    2 To 3 sprigs fresh lemony
    Thyme
    2 To 3 sprigs fresh sage
    2 To 3 sprigs fresh oregano
    Salt and pepper

    Prep time : 10 minutes Cook time
    : 1 hour 30 minutes Total time: 1 hour 40 minutes

    1. Completely submerge the top and bottom in water and soak for 30
    minutes prior to cooking.

    2. Wash and dry chicken. Allow to come to room temperature (or about
    70 degrees) before placing in oven, about 1.5 hours.

    3. Put veggies and herbs in baker and place chicken on top. Sprinkle
    with salt & pepper.

    4. Place baker in a cold oven and then turn temp. to 450 degrees. Bake
    covered for 1.5 hours or until skin is browned and chicken is done.

    5. Let stand for 15 minutes before carving.

    Notes: Avoid drastic temperature changes with a clay baker. Always
    presoak baker for 30 minutes and always allow to cool before
    cleaning. Never use soap, only warm water and baking soda if
    necessary.

    Based on reader feedback, I have adjusted the cooking temperature to
    450 degrees.

    From: http://www.lemonythyme.com/roast-chicken-in-a-clay-pot/

    MM'd by Sean Dennis (1:18/200@Fidonet) on 31 January 2017.

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, July 24, 2022 16:25:20
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Even more so than the Hafflys. He is Mormon, and it is one of several things that are forbidden by that religion. The Hafflys are a flavor
    of Southern Baptists and that religion discourages alcohol, but it is allowed in moderation (except when Steve was in Seminary).

    I was inactive for nearly 20 years but have become active in the Church
    so I am not touching hooch anymore. Besides, it's loaded with sugar and
    that is really worse for me than the alcohol itself.

    To tie this message in with earlier discussion in this packet:

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    Title: Buttermilk Doughnuts
    Categories: Breads, Lds, Seandennis
    Yield: 1 Servings

    2 c Buttermilk
    1 1/2 c Sugar
    2 Eggs
    3 T Butter
    1 1/2 t Nutmeg
    1/2 t Baking soda
    1/4 t Baking powder
    1/4 t Salt
    Flour

    Combine ingredients, kneading in enough flour to make a soft dough
    that's not too sticky. Roll out and cut into doughnuts. Fry in
    deep, hot lard.

    President Brigham Young enjoyed this pastry.

    From the July 1975 "Friend" published by The Church of Jesus Christ of
    Latter-Day Saints.

    Converted to Meal-Master format by Sean Dennis (1:18/200@Fidonet) on
    12 March 2022.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sunday, July 24, 2022 16:27:22
    Dave Drum wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    Apparently he does take a tipple from time to time. I'm not at all religious - I have my own value system which consists of treating
    others in the manner in which I'd like to be treated. And I do not
    suffer fools gladly. Bv)=

    There's nothing wrong with the golden rule. Unfortunately, more people
    need to learn it.

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    Title: Pioneer Hardtack
    Categories: Breads, Lds, Seandennis
    Yield: 1 Servings

    4 c Flour (white, whole wheat,
    -graham, rye, barley, or any
    -combination of flours you
    -like)
    1 c Rolled oats
    1/2 Shortening
    2 c Buttermily, yogurt, cream,
    -or sweet milk
    1 t Salt
    1 t Baking soda

    Hardtack is an old-fashioned flatbread or sea biscuit that was popular
    with pioneers and sailors because it was lightweight, compact, tasty,
    and stored well. And it is just as delicious today and handy, too,
    for hiking, backpacking, or snacking.

    1. Preheat oven to 400 degrees F and measure into large bowl.

    2. Mix well and form dough into a ball, then divide dough and roll
    out a small portion (about the size of a tennis ball) at a time.

    3. Roll dough on lightly floured surface as thin as you can. The
    thinner you roll it, the better the hardtack will taste.

    4. Sprinkle rolled-out dough lightly with salt if you wish, cut to any
    shape desired, and place pieces close together on greased cookie
    sheet.

    5. Bake until edges begin to brown. Remove cookie sheet from oven,
    turn hardtack over, and bake until it is crisp and dry and lightly
    browned.

    6. As soon as the hardtack is baked, put on rack to cool. Store
    hardtack in airtight container, and it will stay fresh as long as it
    is kept dry.

    This pioneer hardtack is delicious served plain or with jam, peanut
    butter, cheese, meat spreads, or whatever you like. Try seasoning the
    crackers by adding onion powder, cheese, barbecue sauce, bacon bits,
    herbs, or spices to the dough.

    From the July 1975 issue of "Friend" published by The Church Of Jesus
    Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

    Converted to Meal-Master format by Sean Dennis (1:18/200@Fidonet) on
    12 March 2022.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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