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    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thursday, February 24, 2022 07:19:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    one with brussels sprouts. Interestingly, he doesn't like cooked
    sprouts in any way but does like them raw.

    I'm that way with turnips. Love 'em peeled and sliced w/salt when they
    are raw. Abhor them once they've been cooked.

    OTOH, I like them in something like beef stew.

    I hereby grant you my portion of them in perpetuity.

    Gladly taken here. I'd offer up peanut butter, coffee, or coconut
    in exchange but Steve takes them off my hands. OTOH,you can have
    my maraschino cherries, both the red and the green. (G)

    Maraschino cherries are OK. I get them mostly in chocolate-covered
    mode. Used to get them once in a while in cocktails. But I've not had

    I've never liked them, even as a kid.

    any of the "hard" liquor in 20 or so years. And not even a beer
    since my last

    My next cocktail will be my first. (G) I'm not a beer drinker; the
    smell is a turn off for me. I have had wine, but rarely. There was a
    bit of red in the pork tenderlion roast I did last night, but only a quarter cup in the gravy. I'll use more in the beef stew I'll make in
    the next week or so.

    I can remember when you wouldn't even think of cooking w/wine.

    echo picnic at the Shipp's old place in Columbia, MD. Haven't gone
    all "tee-total" or anything. Just haven't had the "taste" for it.

    I understand; I never had the taste for most of it.

    (corn)
    I hadn't either, until I met Steve. Seems to be a common thing tho.

    Only amongst the wierdo set.

    Or those with kids--it'll get the kid to eat more veggies. (G)

    The non purist chili cooks. It's good in the family friendly chili I've made but I don't even use corn flour to thicken the true chili I do.

    It sort of makes sense - corn (maize), chilies, many beans, and potatoes
    are native to the Americas - especially Central and South America.

    I understand - because of Steve's allergic reaction. And I've found
    the using Arrowroot powder works better than cornstarch in acidic
    dishes like chilli anyway.

    I generally just use tomato past--glues those broken tomatoes back together. (G)

    Seriously, arrowroot as a thickener works better for my $$$ and effort than cornstarch. Root starches do not hold up at high temperatures so
    best used to thicken sauces toward the very end of cooking. Which is
    when I determine that I need "thickening".

    I'll determine the need for thickening at some point, depends on how
    long the chili is to be cooked. Last week I cooked it all Saturday afternoon, reheated a couple hours before serving on Sunday. Tomato
    paste was added about an hour before serving.

    Arrowroot works well with pie fillings and sauces, adding a crystal
    clear, shimmering sheen and a silkier mouth feel. It does freeze and
    thaw without change, unlike cornstarch. And it has a more neutral
    taste; it doesn't taste "starchy" like grain starches (cornstarch,
    flour).

    Something to replenish; we used up the arrowroot a few weeks ago.

    Choose arrowroot if you're thickening an acidic liquid which tends to cause cornstarch thinkeners to "break".

    Potato starch works much the same - but I've not found it available
    to buy in convenient containers like the arrowroot I get. Bv)=

    Can you buy it in bulk & put in your own container?

    At my local GFS store "Arrowroot, Powdered, No MSG, 18 Oz Jar $11.99"
    which then goes into a small glass Spice Islands container as needed.

    $$$ and trophies. Judging is "double blind". I expect to sample some
    of the best chilli I've ever put in my face, a lot of "pretty good" chillies> and (probably) a "spitter" or two. Bv)=

    Good cooking for colder weather.

    Actually it was almost "speedo" weather that day. 50+ Fahrenheit. And

    It was in the upper 60s for us. A charity in Raleigh had their annual "Undie Rundie"--good weather for it. It's a fun run, to raise money to
    buy undies for clothing distribution charities. And yes, some
    participants run in (modest) undies.

    it was a tough competition. One outstanding (to me) chilli and not a "spitter" in the bunch. My first place vote was obvious to me - but
    the second and third place nods were tough among the 16 remaining chillies.

    Ties allowed?

    You bet. The salsa competition had ties for 1st & second as well as 3rd
    & 4th. Chile Verde had a 4-way tie for 1st and Red chilli had a 3-way
    tie for second. Ties are broken by a panel for 5 judges doing a reprise
    on just those cups which were deadlocked.

    The dried herbs/spices I use include ancho, cumin, cayenne and garlic
    from this list. I'll also use chipoltle and this year Steve added a bit
    of chiltipin.

    I generally use a jalapeno or two (or serrano) to my chilli. The spice
    mix is just a "base" for elaboration. I used chipotles once in place
    of jalapeno and it made my chilli have a "smoky" undertone. I'll pass, thank you, on further use in *my* chilli. Bv)=

    I've used serrano before but not this year. Steve likes chipoltle so there's always some in our kitchen, powdered or dried.

    You have to make it to suit yourself (and your guests).

    It's usually a basic version with different peppers, depending on
    what's available/what mix I buy.

    Like mine - never twice the same. I adjust as I go - to my taster. And
    not just chilli. Bv)=

    This chile verde has been in my arsenal since its originator won the "verde" category with it in 2008. It contains potatoes - which I
    didn't realise were "legal" until that February day in 2008.

    OK, I'll take a look at it.

    I really like a TB or three over scrambled eggs for breakfast. Bv)=

    We had cheddar cheese over our scrambled eggs this morning. (G)

    That's pretty much a "standard" in sme places. Eggs are a good platform
    for additives.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Skillet Potato & Eggs
    Categories:
    Yield: 4 servings


    2 lg Potatoes; peeled, diced
    2 Sweet Potatoes; peeled,
    - diced
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 md White onion; peeled, fine
    - chopped
    2 tb Extra Virgin Olive Oil
    1 Spring Onion;(bulb & greens)
    - chopped
    1 ts Italian seasoning mix
    4 lg Eggs
    1 ts Parsley leaves; chopped
    1/4 c Mozzarella cheese; shredded
    - (or Cheddar)
    Salt & Pepper

    To begin making the Skillet Potato And Eggs first set
    the oven to 180┬║C/365┬║F.

    Meanwhile place an oven-safe Cast Iron Skillet on medium
    heat. Add olive oil, garlic, sliced onion and scallion
    whites to the oil and saute until translucent.

    Add both potatoes to the pan and toss them along with a
    little salt. Continue to saute until the potatoes turn
    golden brown and tender.

    Next, add the Italian herbs, chopped parsley and pepper,
    and add additional salt if needed.

    Make 4 wells/holes in the potato mixture and break an
    egg into each well.

    Place the skillet into the oven bake for 10 to 11
    minutes or until egg whites are completely set and yolks
    begin to thicken.

    You can also cook it on a stovetop on low to medium heat
    until you see the eggs thicken.

    Half way through, sprinkle the potato and eggs with with
    grated cheese and bake for a couple of minutes until
    cheese melts and turns slightly golden.

    Cover the pan and allow the cheese to melt through.

    Serve Skillet Potato & Eggs with hash browns, Mushroom
    Sauce (or Chile Verde - UDD) and garlic bread for a
    stylish home made brunch.

    By Divya Shivaraman

    Makes: 4 Servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.archanaskitchen.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thursday, February 24, 2022 12:33:59
    Hi Dave,


    any of the "hard" liquor in 20 or so years. And not even a beer
    since my last

    My next cocktail will be my first. (G) I'm not a beer drinker; the
    smell is a turn off for me. I have had wine, but rarely. There was a
    bit of red in the pork tenderlion roast I did last night, but only a quarter cup in the gravy. I'll use more in the beef stew I'll make in
    the next week or so.

    I can remember when you wouldn't even think of cooking w/wine.

    We've relaxed a bit, but I don't use a lot of it. We've been buying the
    small boxes (half litre) and only using a bit at a time. They seem to
    keep well enough in the fridge for our occaisional use.


    echo picnic at the Shipp's old place in Columbia, MD. Haven't gone
    all "tee-total" or anything. Just haven't had the "taste" for it.

    I understand; I never had the taste for most of it.

    (corn)
    I hadn't either, until I met Steve. Seems to be a common thing tho.

    Only amongst the wierdo set.

    Or those with kids--it'll get the kid to eat more veggies. (G)

    The non purist chili cooks. It's good in the family friendly chili I've made but I don't even use corn flour to thicken the true chili I do.

    It sort of makes sense - corn (maize), chilies, many beans, and
    potatoes are native to the Americas - especially Central and South America.

    True, so that's probably a good rational for putting it into chili.


    I understand - because of Steve's allergic reaction. And I've found
    the using Arrowroot powder works better than cornstarch in acidic
    dishes like chilli anyway.

    I generally just use tomato paste--glues those broken tomatoes back together. (G)


    Something to replenish; we used up the arrowroot a few weeks ago.

    Choose arrowroot if you're thickening an acidic liquid which tends to cause cornstarch thinkeners to "break".

    Potato starch works much the same - but I've not found it available
    to buy in convenient containers like the arrowroot I get. Bv)=

    Can you buy it in bulk & put in your own container?

    At my local GFS store "Arrowroot, Powdered, No MSG, 18 Oz Jar $11.99" which then goes into a small glass Spice Islands container as needed.

    OK, we don't have a GFS store. I'll check the local (Wegman's, Publix,
    Lowe's), if needs be, head down to Raleigh to Whole Foods. I'm pretty
    sure I've seen it there.


    it was a tough competition. One outstanding (to me) chilli and not a "spitter" in the bunch. My first place vote was obvious to me - but
    the second and third place nods were tough among the 16 remaining chillies.

    Ties allowed?

    You bet. The salsa competition had ties for 1st & second as well as
    3rd & 4th. Chile Verde had a 4-way tie for 1st and Red chilli had a
    3-way
    tie for second. Ties are broken by a panel for 5 judges doing a
    reprise on just those cups which were deadlocked.

    It must have been fun.


    The dried herbs/spices I use include ancho, cumin, cayenne and garlic
    from this list. I'll also use chipoltle and this year Steve added a bit
    of chiltipin.

    I generally use a jalapeno or two (or serrano) to my chilli. The spice
    mix is just a "base" for elaboration. I used chipotles once in place
    of jalapeno and it made my chilli have a "smoky" undertone. I'll pass, thank you, on further use in *my* chilli. Bv)=

    I've used serrano before but not this year. Steve likes chipoltle so there's always some in our kitchen, powdered or dried.

    You have to make it to suit yourself (and your guests).

    It's usually a basic version with different peppers, depending on
    what's available/what mix I buy.

    Like mine - never twice the same. I adjust as I go - to my taster. And
    not just chilli. Bv)=

    That's the way most of us cook. I used to make my marinara sauce
    straight from the recipe I got from Steve's mom. Then I started playing
    with it a bit and do it "my way" now. (G)


    This chile verde has been in my arsenal since its originator won the


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thursday, February 24, 2022 12:41:26
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    "verde" category with it in 2008. It contains potatoes - which I
    didn't realise were "legal" until that February day in 2008.

    OK, I'll take a look at it.

    I really like a TB or three over scrambled eggs for breakfast. Bv)=

    We had cheddar cheese over our scrambled eggs this morning. (G)

    That's pretty much a "standard" in sme places. Eggs are a good
    platform for additives.

    I like a red salsa over scrambled eggs, haven't made salsa in years tho.
    Maybe I ought to, this summer, after we get home from travels? We've two
    trips planned so far but should be home while it's still tomato season.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, February 26, 2022 06:49:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    any of the "hard" liquor in 20 or so years. And not even a beer
    since my last

    My next cocktail will be my first. (G) I'm not a beer drinker; the
    smell is a turn off for me. I have had wine, but rarely. There was a
    bit of red in the pork tenderlion roast I did last night, but only a quarter cup in the gravy. I'll use more in the beef stew I'll make in
    the next week or so.

    I can remember when you wouldn't even think of cooking w/wine.

    We've relaxed a bit, but I don't use a lot of it. We've been buying the small boxes (half litre) and only using a bit at a time. They seem to
    keep well enough in the fridge for our occaisional use.

    If you can find them the mini-bottles (187ml/3/4 cup) are most excellent
    (and cost effective) for cooking. I'm looking at a small Gallo Family
    Merlot that I picked up down the Walgreen for cheap. ( <$2 )

    echo picnic at the Shipp's old place in Columbia, MD. Haven't gone
    all "tee-total" or anything. Just haven't had the "taste" for it.

    I understand; I never had the taste for most of it.

    I do enjoy a good beer on a hot day - sometimes. Bv)=

    It sort of makes sense - corn (maize), chilies, many beans, and
    potatoes are native to the Americas - especially Central and South America.

    True, so that's probably a good rational for putting it into chili.

    Only place I use corn and chilies is in my salsa.

    Something to replenish; we used up the arrowroot a few weeks ago.

    Choose arrowroot if you're thickening an acidic liquid which tends to cause cornstarch thinkeners to "break".

    Potato starch works much the same - but I've not found it available
    to buy in convenient containers like the arrowroot I get. Bv)=

    Can you buy it in bulk & put in your own container?

    At my local GFS store "Arrowroot, Powdered, No MSG, 18 Oz Jar $11.99" which then goes into a small glass Spice Islands container as needed.

    OK, we don't have a GFS store. I'll check the local (Wegman's, Publix, Lowe's), if needs be, head down to Raleigh to Whole Foods. I'm pretty
    sure I've seen it there.

    Try 327 Hillsborough Street, Raleigh NC 27603

    it was a tough competition. One outstanding (to me) chilli and not a "spitter" in the bunch. My first place vote was obvious to me - but
    the second and third place nods were tough among the 16 remaining chillies.

    Ties allowed?

    You bet. The salsa competition had ties for 1st & second as well as
    3rd & 4th. Chile Verde had a 4-way tie for 1st and Red chilli had a
    3-way tie for second. Ties are broken by a panel of 5 judges doing a reprise on just those cups which were deadlocked.

    It must have been fun.

    I didn't get in on that part. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Black Bean & Corn Salsa
    Categories: Salsa, Chilies, Citrus, Beans, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 c Fresh corn kernels *
    15 oz Can black beans; rinsed,
    - drained
    15 oz Can diced tomatoes w/chilies
    1 md Bell pepper; diced fine
    1 md Onion; diced fine
    3 (to 4)jalapeno &/or serrano
    - chilies; seeded, fine
    - diced
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies;
    - undrained
    2 cl Garlic; diced fine
    1 ts (to 1/2 tb) ground cumin
    8 oz Can plain tomato sauce
    +=OR=+
    8 oz Can El Pato tomato sauce
    +=OR=+
    8 oz Can Snap-E-Tom tomato sauce
    1/2 Avocado; peeled, pitted,
    - diced 3/16"
    2 Limes; juiced
    1/2 bn Fresh cilantro; chopped
    Salt & Pepper

    Cook corn in a small amount of boiling water for 4 minutes
    or until crisp-tender; drain and cool. Combine corn and
    remaining ingredients.

    Makes 4 cups of Pico de Gallo.

    * 1 1/2 cups frozen corn niblets, or a 14 1/2 oz can of
    Green Giant Niblets or Mexi-Corn may be substituted.

    I've won prizes at several chilli cook-offs with this
    recipe.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, February 26, 2022 16:31:35
    Hi Dave,


    I can remember when you wouldn't even think of cooking w/wine.

    We've relaxed a bit, but I don't use a lot of it. We've been buying the small boxes (half litre) and only using a bit at a time. They seem to
    keep well enough in the fridge for our occaisional use.

    If you can find them the mini-bottles (187ml/3/4 cup) are most
    excellent (and cost effective) for cooking. I'm looking at a small
    Gallo Family
    Merlot that I picked up down the Walgreen for cheap. ( <$2 )

    The last boxes we got were at Publix, a step above. (G) They weren't
    too expensive but more than $2., IIRC. Next time we need, we'll probably
    check the assortment at Wegman's.

    echo picnic at the Shipp's old place in Columbia, MD. Haven't gone
    all "tee-total" or anything. Just haven't had the "taste" for it.

    I understand; I never had the taste for most of it.

    I do enjoy a good beer on a hot day - sometimes. Bv)=

    I'll usually go for water or, if available, Diet Coke.

    It sort of makes sense - corn (maize), chilies, many beans, and
    potatoes are native to the Americas - especially Central and South America.

    True, so that's probably a good rational for putting it into chili.

    Only place I use corn and chilies is in my salsa.

    I can't use corn in my salsa, doubt I'd want to, even if I could.


    Something to replenish; we used up the arrowroot a few weeks ago.

    Choose arrowroot if you're thickening an acidic liquid which tends to cause cornstarch thinkeners to "break".

    Potato starch works much the same - but I've not found it available
    to buy in convenient containers like the arrowroot I get. Bv)=

    Can you buy it in bulk & put in your own container?

    At my local GFS store "Arrowroot, Powdered, No MSG, 18 Oz Jar $11.99" which then goes into a small glass Spice Islands container as needed.

    OK, we don't have a GFS store. I'll check the local (Wegman's, Publix, Lowe's), if needs be, head down to Raleigh to Whole Foods. I'm pretty
    sure I've seen it there.

    Wegman's didn't have it; googled the above address and it turned up
    other (non grocery) businesses. There's a Publix about 10 minutes from
    us, same road as my dr so if we don't get there before, we'll go after
    my appointment in about 10 days.


    Try 327 Hillsborough Street, Raleigh NC 27603

    the second and third place nods were tough among the 16 remaining chillies.

    Ties allowed?

    You bet. The salsa competition had ties for 1st & second as well as
    3rd & 4th. Chile Verde had a 4-way tie for 1st and Red chilli had a
    3-way tie for second. Ties are broken by a panel of 5 judges doing a reprise on just those cups which were deadlocked.

    It must have been fun.

    I didn't get in on that part. Bv)=

    But, you got in on the first part, deciding who would advance.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, February 28, 2022 07:40:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Merlot that I picked up down the Walgreen for cheap. ( <$2 )

    The last boxes we got were at Publix, a step above. (G) They weren't
    too expensive but more than $2., IIRC. Next time we need, we'll
    probably check the assortment at Wegman's.

    echo picnic at the Shipp's old place in Columbia, MD. Haven't gone
    all "tee-total" or anything. Just haven't had the "taste" for it.

    I understand; I never had the taste for most of it.

    I do enjoy a good beer on a hot day - sometimes. Bv)=

    I'll usually go for water or, if available, Diet Coke.

    My go to sodas are Coke Zero (no metallic tang), Diet A&W Root Beer and
    either a flavoured seltzer or a new Dr. Pepper flavour - Zero Sugar Dr.
    Pepper and Cream Soda.

    I also have an insulated 30 oz. tumbler that is *AMAZING*. I keep it at
    my computer station on a side table. I've filled it with ice and water
    in the afternoon, refilled the water a time or two and then use the cup
    for water to take my morning dope using the melted ice water. There is
    often ice remaining in the cup (as ice) 24 to 30 hours later. Sadly it's currently out of stock @ Amazon or I'd buy more of them for gifting to
    friends.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BD0K3ZC?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details

    I do drinnk a lot of water. Even more since soda-pop has gotten so high
    priced. EEK!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Root Beer Ham
    Categories: Pork, Beverages, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 10 servings

    8 lb (to 10 lb) bone-in, fully
    - cooked unsliced half ham
    24 oz (2 cans) root beer
    2 lg Shallots; halved lengthwise
    2 lg Dried or fresh bay leaves
    1/4 Packed cup dark brown sugar
    4 ts Dijon mustard
    2 ts Rice vinegar

    Set the oven @ 325ºF/165ºC.

    Using a sharp knife, make parallel cuts across the
    surface of the ham, about 1/2" deep and 1" apart, then
    repeat in the opposite direction to create a diamond
    pattern.

    Place the ham in a deep, large roasting pan, cut side
    down, and pour the root beer over the ham. Add the
    shallots and bay leaves to the root beer in the roasting
    pan. Cover the pan tightly with aluminum foil and bake,
    basting once halfway through, until the ham is heated
    through (it’s already cooked). The internal temperature
    should reach 135ºF/57ºC, about 15 minutes per pound (2
    to 3 hours total).

    When the ham is done heating through, carefully remove
    from the oven and raise the oven temp to 400ºF/205ºC.
    Uncover the ham and ladle out 2 cups of the root beer
    braising liquid into a large skillet.

    To make the glaze, add the brown sugar, mustard and rice
    vinegar to the root beer in the skillet and bring to a
    boil, whisking occasionally and watching that it doesn’t
    boil over. Cook until reduced significantly, syrupy and
    thick enough to coat the back of a spoon and drip off
    slowly, 10 to 15 minutes.

    Using a spoon or a brush, apply half of the glaze all
    over the surface of the ham. Bake, uncovered, until the
    glaze is bronzed, bubbling and gorgeous (but not
    burned), 8 to 12 minutes.

    Transfer the ham to a cutting board to rest for at least
    15 minutes before slicing thinly and serving with the
    extra glaze. Carefully pour the braising liquid into a
    gravy boat and serve alongside, as well.

    By: Eric Kim

    Yield 8 to 12 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Monday, February 28, 2022 11:37:49
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I do drinnk a lot of water. Even more since soda-pop has gotten so high priced. EEK!

    It's amazing how much profit is made off of soda, especially at restaurants. When my parents take me to lunch at our favorite Mexican place, we all order water. That saves us $7 off of the bill!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Easy Mexican Chicken and Rice
    Categories: Poultry, Dips, Chicken
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 c Converted rice
    1 2/3 c Water
    1 md Onion (chopped)
    4 Skinless, chicken breast
    -halves
    1 c Salsa (the one you like)
    Salt to taste
    2 Chicken bullion cubes

    In a large pan, combine the water and bullion cubes, and bring to a
    boil. Add rice, onions and salt, boil 10 min then remove from the
    heat. Place into casserole dish, place chicken breasts on top and
    pour salsa over the chicken breast and rice, cover.

    Place into preheated oven (350o), and cook for 1 hr. Serve.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Sean Dennis on Tuesday, March 01, 2022 06:49:56
    On 2022 Feb 28 11:37:48, you wrote to Dave Drum:

    I do drinnk a lot of water. Even more since soda-pop has gotten so
    high priced. EEK!

    It's amazing how much profit is made off of soda, especially at restaurants.

    and convienience stores! i mean, who in their right mind will pay over $1US for a 20oz soda when they can get a 2liter at Wally World (or possibly a local grocery store, FoodLion in my area) for 50 to 90 cents??

    )\/(ark

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Monday, February 28, 2022 14:24:18
    Hi Dave,

    I do enjoy a good beer on a hot day - sometimes. Bv)=

    I'll usually go for water or, if available, Diet Coke.

    My go to sodas are Coke Zero (no metallic tang), Diet A&W Root Beer
    and either a flavoured seltzer or a new Dr. Pepper flavour - Zero
    Sugar Dr. Pepper and Cream Soda.

    I'll rarely have others, but usually the diet/no sugar version. When we
    went to Kentucky for an R-Pod rally a few years ago, I was introduced to Ale-8-1; we picked up a box (12 cans) to take home. Passing thru KY last
    year, when we stopped for gas, I got a 6 pack. That'll have to do me
    until we go thru the state again; I've seen the regular but not the diet version locally.

    I also have an insulated 30 oz. tumbler that is *AMAZING*. I keep it
    at my computer station on a side table. I've filled it with ice and
    water
    in the afternoon, refilled the water a time or two and then use the
    cup for water to take my morning dope using the melted ice water.
    There is
    often ice remaining in the cup (as ice) 24 to 30 hours later. Sadly

    I think that's longer than our insulated tumblers; they are good but not
    that good.

    it's currently out of stock @ Amazon or I'd buy more of them for
    gifting to
    friends.

    Sigh! Our best insulated cups (mugs) are only 16 ounces. They do a good
    job but not as good as yours.


    I do drinnk a lot of water. Even more since soda-pop has gotten so
    high priced. EEK!

    Same here; I might have one soda a week. Had one yesterday (Wegman's
    diet cola) so probably not again this week. I don't drink pepsi,
    generally Diet Coke but will make occaisional exceptions.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tuesday, March 01, 2022 11:31:47
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'll rarely have others, but usually the diet/no sugar version. When we went to Kentucky for an R-Pod rally a few years ago, I was introduced
    to Ale-8-1; we picked up a box (12 cans) to take home. Passing thru KY last year, when we stopped for gas, I got a 6 pack. That'll have to do
    me until we go thru the state again; I've seen the regular but not the diet version locally.

    FYI, they're selling Ale-8-1 here in Johnson City. I've seen the regular
    but have not seen the diet. I don't get around to a lot of grocery stores
    to check but I will try to find where I saw it last.

    I love to shop at several grocery stores in a day to get the best deal but
    none of my current rides believe in that so I am stuck until I get my own vehicle again.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: CHINESE BEEF STEW
    Categories: Chinese, Beef, Ceideburg 2
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Brisket of beef or stew beef
    4 tb Peanut oil

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    2 ml Fermented red bean cake *
    3 tb Hoisin sauce
    4 tb Shaoxing wine or dry sherry
    4 tb Thin soy sauce
    1 tb Minced garlic
    1 Whole star anise
    1 ts Roasted and crushed
    -Szechwan peppercorns
    1 ts Five spice powder
    2 ts Sugar
    6 c Water
    1 lg (about 1 1/2 to 2 lbs)
    -Chinese (icicle) radish,
    -roll cut.

    Tough beef is most flavorful, but you must simmer it gently for
    several hours to soften the sinewy muscle. Slow braising also
    encourages an exchange of flavors between the meat and the tangy
    sauce, enhancing both. Chinese radish adds just the right bite, much
    as turnips would in a Western stew. In effect, this is Chinese beef
    stew.

    Game meats or goat meat may be substituted for the beef for a
    delicious and unusual variation. Oxtails can also be braised in this
    manner, or even veal shanks. Almost any cut of meat or organ that
    requires extensive cooking does well if braised. The strong sauce
    keeps the meat flavorful throughout.

    Turnips or carrots may be substituted for the Chinese radish, and
    chestnuts have a strong, sweet taste that holds up well to braising.
    [Make a diagonal slice, roll daikon 1/4 turn and slice again.
    Continue rolling and cutting until done. S.C.]

    * [This is nice if you have some laying around, but don't worry if you
    don't. The taste can be somewhat bizarre for a Westerner, but it
    won't overwhelm the dish S.C.]

    1. The preferred cut is brisket of beef, a boneless piece of tough
    meat from the underside of the steer, because of its rich, gelatinous
    texture when cooked. It is sold in Chinese meat markets as Chinese
    stew beef. Any tough beef cut can be used, such as boneless chuck and
    bottom round.

    2. Trim away the outer layers of fat.

    3. Cut the meat into 1 1/2 inch strips.

    4. Cut the strips into cubes.

    5. Brown the meat on all sides in a wok over a high flame in 3
    tablespoons of the oil. Set it aside.

    6. In the remaining 1 tablespoon of oil, over a high flame, break up
    the red bean curd with a spatula.

    7. Add the remaining sauce ingredients. Bring them to a boil.

    8. Add the beef to the sauce, reduce the heat to a simmer, cover the
    wok, and braise the beef for 2 hours. After 1 1/2 hours, add the
    roll-cut radish. Cook for 30 minutes more, until both the beef and
    radish are tender.

    9. Serve the stew immediately.

    Makes 6 servings.

    From "Chinese Technique" by Ken Hom with Harvey Steiman. Simon and
    Schuster, New York. 1981.

    Posted by Stephen Ceideburg December 18 1990.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Tuesday, March 01, 2022 16:22:37
    mark lewis wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    and convienience stores! i mean, who in their right mind will pay over $1US for a 20oz soda when they can get a 2liter at Wally World (or possibly a local grocery store, FoodLion in my area) for 50 to 90
    cents??

    If I know I'm going to be out and about on my power scooter, the day before I'll stop by Dollar General where I can pick up a liter of Diet Pepsi, stick
    it in the fridge, and have a cold one to go with me. I am really trying to drink more water though.

    I have seen 2 liter soda for about 65A¢ around these parts but the better
    store brands are around 80A¢ to $1.

    It's still a shock to see a 2 liter of Pepsi for $2.50 when there's a Pepsi bottling plant 3/4 mile down the road. <G>

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pepsi-Cola Cake With Broiled Peanut Butter Frosting
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts, Soda pop
    Yield: 8 Servings

    MMMMM----------------------------CAKE---------------------------------
    2 c Flour; Unbleached
    2 c Sugar
    1/2 lb Butter
    2 tb Cocoa; Unsweetened
    1 c Pepsi
    1/2 c Buttermilk
    2 ea Eggs; Large, Beaten
    1 ts Baking Soda
    1 ts Vanilla Extract
    1 1/2 c Marshmallows; Miniature

    MMMMM--------------------------FROSTING-------------------------------
    6 tb Butter
    1 c Brown Sugar; Dark, Packed
    2/3 c Peanut Butter
    1/4 c Milk
    2/3 c Peanuts; Chopped

    CAKE: Preheat oven to 350 degrees F. Grease and flour 9 X 13 X 2-inch
    pan. Combine flour and sugar in large bowl. Melt butter, add cocoa
    and Pepsi. Pour over flour and sugar mixture, and stir until well
    blended. Add buttermilk, beaten eggs, soda, and vanilla. Mix well.
    Stir in marshmallows. Pour into prepared pan. Bake 40 minutes.
    Remove cake from oven and frost while still warm. FROSTING: Cream
    Butter, sugar, and peanut butter. Add milk and stir well. Add nuts.
    Spread over warm cake. Place frosted cake under broiler about
    4-inches from heat source. Broil just a few seconds, or until topping
    starts to bubble. DO NOT scorch! Let cool at least 30 minutes before
    serving.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Wednesday, March 02, 2022 13:46:44
    Sean Dennis wrote to mark lewis <=-

    It's still a shock to see a 2 liter of Pepsi for $2.50 when there's a Pepsi bottling plant 3/4 mile down the road. <G>

    It's $2.17 CAD here at walmart.

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Wednesday, March 02, 2022 13:33:58
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    It's $2.17 CAD here at walmart.

    That's still expensive.

    The price of gas has shot up 40% down here in the States. It's costing my parents $50 a shot to fill their gas tank and being on Social Security
    doesn't help them either.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Nova Scotia Oatcakes
    Categories: Canadian, Nova scotia, Breads, Baird
    Yield: 1 servings

    3 c Rolled oats; not instant
    3 c Flour, all purpose;sifted
    1 c Brown sugar
    1 ts Baking soda
    2 ts -Salt
    1 1/2 c Shortening
    2/3 c -Cold water, up to 3/4 cup

    Combine oats, flour, sugar, soda and salt. Cut in the shortening with
    a pastry blender or 2 knives until the mixture is crumbly. Using a
    fork, gradually add enough water for moisture to form a ball. Roll
    out 1/4" thick on a lightly floured board. Cut into circles and place
    on greased baking sheet. Bake at 350F for 15 minutes. Yield about 4
    dozen, depending on spoon size.

    SOURCE: _Classic Canadian Cooking_ by Elizabeth Baird

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Thursday, March 03, 2022 13:09:00
    Sean Dennis wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    The price of gas has shot up 40% down here in the States. It's costing
    my parents $50 a shot to fill their gas tank and being on Social
    Security doesn't help them either.

    It's been a lot more then that here for years. :) Tomorrow we'll be paying $1.70 a litre. Currently $1.66.9 a litre.

    $20 in my wifes accent is like a quarter of a tank. In my minivan it doesn't even move the gas gauge.

    Shawn

    ... "Other kings said I was _daft_ to build a castle in a swamp!"

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wednesday, March 02, 2022 14:48:55
    Hi Sean,


    I'll rarely have others, but usually the diet/no sugar version. When we went to Kentucky for an R-Pod rally a few years ago, I was introduced
    to Ale-8-1; we picked up a box (12 cans) to take home. Passing thru KY last year, when we stopped for gas, I got a 6 pack. That'll have to do
    me until we go thru the state again; I've seen the regular but not the diet version locally.

    FYI, they're selling Ale-8-1 here in Johnson City. I've seen the
    regular but have not seen the diet. I don't get around to a lot of grocery stores to check but I will try to find where I saw it last.

    It's not vital for me; it's just a nice treat now and then. We've
    shopped most all of the grocery stores here in Wf--made Lowe's the
    primary one when we first moved here. Then Publix came to town so we
    switched (also moved, putting Lowe's a bit further out than "just up the
    road a bit") as we knew/liked their quality. Finally, Wegman's opened
    up, basically around the corner from us so now we do most of our
    shopping there. From time to time we'll pick up stuff at Aldi, Lidi, Wal
    Mart, Harris Teeter, and very rarely Food Lion--they're way out of our
    way--but do most of our shopping at Wegman's. AFAIK, none of them sell
    the Ale-8-1; I saw it at the Town & Country hardware store.

    I love to shop at several grocery stores in a day to get the best deal
    but none of my current rides believe in that so I am stuck until I get
    my own vehicle again.

    Sigh! Do they all like the same store or does person A like store A,
    person B like store B, etc?


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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