Is there a reliable way to send from ftelnet to a fossil y-modem BBS
Protocol? I'm trying the latest ftelnet snippit from ftelnet.ca and the prototype fdsz dated 04-29-97 using the dsz -g (though not documented
in fdsz) command with rb and sb. I still get an error that G is expected,
but not received from the ftelnet ymodem upload window. I've been able to transfer from fdsz through olms2000 to ftelnet successfully using y-modem. I haven't tried transfering from ftelnet to fdsz successfully. I'm running EleBBS, but any protocols for any bbs that use fossil drivers are acceptable.

Thanks! Hopefully I supplied enough information. If it matters, I'm running
a 32 bit XP VM.

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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: Martin Kazmaier to All on Mon Nov 28 2022 07:43 pm

Is there a reliable way to send from ftelnet to a fossil y-modem BBS Protocol? I'm trying the latest ftelnet snippit from ftelnet.ca and the prototype fdsz dated 04-29-97 using the dsz -g (though not documented
in fdsz) command with rb and sb. I still get an error that G is expected, but not received from the ftelnet ymodem upload window. I've been able to transfer from fdsz through olms2000 to ftelnet successfully using y-modem.
I haven't tried transfering from ftelnet to fdsz successfully. I'm running EleBBS, but any protocols for any bbs that use fossil drivers are acceptable.

Thanks! Hopefully I supplied enough information. If it matters, I'm running

sexyz will send ymodemg with ftelnet.

fdsz is scaled down and i dont think it does that other stuff.
i ran fdsz in dosbox and it says -g is bad command
also is 'rb and sb' a typo?
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rb and sb are for receiving and sending ymodem batch with fdsz, not a typo. Thanks for the help!

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To: Martin Kazmaier
Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Wed Dec 07 2022 01:31 am

rb and sb are for receiving and sending ymodem batch with fdsz, not a typo. Thanks for the help!

I tried it and it wouldn't take it.
you say you are using a prototype. you dont say what version or where you
got it from.

you shouldnt use fdsz anyways.
use sexyz
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On 08 Dec 22 06:07:53, Jas Hud said the following to Martin Kazmaier:

you shouldnt use fdsz anyways.

Interesting observation professor, its been running here perfectly since '94.

Nick

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rb and sb are for receiving and sending ymodem batch with fdsz, not a typo. Thanks for the help!

He's not trying to help.


FDSZ port ## rb -g **
FDSZ port ## sb -g **

## is port # or var for post #.
** is file name or var for filename.


Been working on my board for years.

Don't use sexyz .. it's shit.



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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Martin Kazmaier on Thu Dec 08 2022 04:55 pm

He's not trying to help.

FDSZ port ## rb -g **
FDSZ port ## sb -g **

## is port # or var for post #.
** is file name or var for filename.

Been working on my board for years.

from what i remember of fdsz, it's just a scaled down fossil version
of dsz. there are better fossil protocols.

i wouldn't even use it to send via zmodem in this age.

Don't use sexyz .. it's shit.

it works fine for hundreds of people. you just cant run it because
your ghost developer can't make a 32bit renegade. well you cant unless you
use rick's source and stamp your name on it.
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i wouldn't even use it to send via zmodem in this age.

I use PDZ-Modem for Z-Modem as it works better with NetFOSS.

it works fine for hundreds of people. you just cant run it because
your ghost developer can't make a 32bit renegade. well you cant unless you use rick's source and stamp your name on it.

Dude, go fuck yourself and troll on your own board. No one cares what you have to say. Go make some more rezipped archives and say they are better than everything. Mr. Professor.

... An expert is someone from out of town.

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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Fri Dec 09 2022 06:13 am

Dude, go fuck yourself and troll on your own board. No one cares what you

i am on my own board. you don't understand current bbs softwares.
You're stuck in the 16bit world of obsolete softwares.

have to say. Go make some more rezipped archives and say they are better than everything.

Lux and I just made sense out of the huge mess of your(?) 'updates' and string files. or should i say lee palmer. I heard nothing but complaints over the years so we made something simple for people to use and they loved it.
Just like you should be doing, I said it was an 'unofficial release'.

Your(?) work was a huge embarassing mess. I don't know how someone could release something like that.

Making a clean working usable version is something you(?) never thought of doing. instead you'd rather make a new version for something trivial to make it seem like renegade was being developed.

Never worked on the file system, never made it 32bit. made a mess out of the menu system and data files. Made it a pain in the ass for people to import files and get file_id.diz discriptions.

No wonder like only 4 people run renegade out of the thousands of bbses, muds and mushes that run now.

Mr. Professor.

That's still a lame ass attempt at being deroatory. you should find someone else to come up with something else. just like you do with everything else.
have lee work on something and you can take credit for it.
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i am on my own board. you don't understand current bbs softwares.

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Doesn't look like it Mr. Professor.

i am on my own board. you don't understand current bbs softwares.
You're stuck in the 16bit world of obsolete softwares.

And that is where I am going to stay. I under new software just fine, most of it is bloated crapware.

Lux and I just made sense out of the huge mess of your(?) 'updates' and st files. or should i say lee palmer. I heard nothing but complaints over th

Didn't know there anything to make sense for? It started in 2003, and released ever ver inbetween. If you goto the offical RG website of www.rgbbs.info, you'll find them all there and in order in which they were released.

Nothing is there before 11-26.3 as that was the 1st update

files. or should i say lee palmer. I heard nothing but complaints over th years so we made something simple for people to use and they loved it.

From who? Lux complaining about total menus, and Nick stating about the menu data file? Other than that, RG has received a bunch of compliments from
Miri and Cott. So go blow some more smoke up your ass.

years so we made something simple for people to use and they loved it.
Just like you should be doing, I said it was an 'unofficial release'.

Your(?) work was a huge embarassing mess. I don't know how someone could release something like that.

Making a clean working usable version is something you(?) never thought of doing. instead you'd rather make a new version for something trivial to ma it seem like renegade was being developed.

Never worked on the file system, never made it 32bit. made a mess out of menu system and data files. Made it a pain in the ass for people to impor

Why would I make BBS setup with doors and everything else? So some dumb ass can unzip it and put it online? No. This hobby was NEVER meant to be that and I refuse to give into morons that refuse to learn. Just like those stupid mystic youtube videos. Seriously? If you can't setup the BBS software from the docs, YOU DO NOT NEED TO RUN ONE because you do not understand it at all!

No wonder like only 4 people run renegade out of the thousands of bbses, m and mushes that run now.

One, there is only like 1100 on the telnet list. Secondly, DOS is a dieing platform by Mircosoft.

Third, how many retards run their BBS in the cloud? That is STUPID. If you don't want to put the time in, the money, the hardware, get out of the hobby. Oh hi, I run a BBS it's at blah blah blah, I log in every 5 weeks and see if the VM on my cloudhost I PAY stupid amounts of money for is still working or even STILL there.

Mr. Professor.

That's still a lame ass attempt at being deroatory. you should find someo

No, just a compliment.

... Immortality is no excuse for not flossing.

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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Fri Dec 09 2022 04:22 pm

i am on my own board. you don't understand current bbs softwares.

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Doesn't look like it Mr. Professor.

SEE. you don't understand.
https://i.imgur.com/r9cLsDn.png

not reading the rest of your bullshit.
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Didn't know there anything to make sense for? It started in 2003, and released ever ver inbetween. If you goto the offical RG website of www.rgbbs.info, you'll find them all there and in order in which they
were released.

So I've stayed out of the conversation til now but feel compelled to respond a bit here. I don't use Synchronet /or/ Renegade and don't have a dog in this specific fight, but...where's the history file? A comprehensive whatsnew or what differentiates one version to the next? Unless you're a Renegade diehard, I don't see many people walking up and looking at RG as an option without understanding what's happening with each release. It's pretty black box. Just my $.02.

Why would I make BBS setup with doors and everything else? So some dumb ass can unzip it and put it online? No. This hobby was NEVER meant to be that and I refuse to give into morons that refuse to learn. Just
like those stupid mystic youtube videos. Seriously? If you can't setup the BBS software from the docs, YOU DO NOT NEED TO RUN ONE because you
do not understand it at all!

This hobby is whatever someone wants it to be. This is very gatekeeper-ish. There are many cool BBSes online that leverage some more modern technology. And the Mystic YouTube videos democratized FTN.

I rebuilt a car engine with the help of YouTube. No purists yelled at me about doing it wrong since I didn't sit there with a howto manual printed in black and white.

BBSing is still very niche but it's also a thing that has moved on a bit for many people, and that's ok. I don't think it's appropriate to maintain a BBS software and then claim everyone else is doing it wrong simply because they do things differently. This is a hot take, but that's pretty immature IMO.

Third, how many retards run their BBS in the cloud? That is STUPID.
If you don't want to put the time in, the money, the hardware, get out
of the hobby. Oh hi, I run a BBS it's at blah blah blah, I log in every
5 weeks and see if the VM on my cloudhost I PAY stupid amounts of money for is still working or even STILL there.

How many people let the internet into their home firewall because they want to run a DOS BBS? If you ask me, /THAT/ is what's retarded. I travel for work a lot and run everything in the cloud because I'm not 14 sitting in my parents' basement waiting for someone to dial into my BBS.

Furthermore, with all this gatekeeperism, I sure hope you only serve dialup, because using something as modern as TCP/IP is not what BBSes were intended for!

Anyway I don't intend to go back and forth and/or fight about this stuff, I just felt compelled to call out the immaturity and gatekeeping here. Yeah, you're talking to jas, but you're posting on a forum with other people, and your general attitude here is one that makes me scratch my head.

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Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: Ryan Fantus to T.J. Mcmillen on Fri Dec 09 2022 04:30 pm

This hobby is whatever someone wants it to be. This is very gatekeeper-ish. There are many cool BBSes online that leverage some more modern technology.

Here here!
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So I've stayed out of the conversation til now but feel compelled to respo bit here. I don't use Synchronet /or/ Renegade and don't have a dog in thi specific fight, but...where's the history file? A comprehensive whatsnew o what differentiates one version to the next? Unless you're a Renegade dieh I don't see many people walking up and looking at RG as an option without understanding what's happening with each release. It's pretty black box. J my $.02.

It's in every update archive.

you're talking to jas, but you're posting on a forum with other people, an

I'm just talking to a jackhole that doesn't know when to shut his mouth (Jas, not you) .... if you ever saw that crap before you understand.

... Discoveries are made by not following instructions,

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On 09 Dec 22 16:30:53, Ryan Fantus said the following to T.J. Mcmillen:

How many people let the internet into their home firewall because they want run a DOS BBS? If you ask me, /THAT/ is what's retarded. I travel for work

I'm one of them... I pay for a commercial-grade Internet connection, have a good firewall and freely allow connections on port 23. Which is running an obsolete OS running a DOS BBS. Also a dialup line which gets maybe a few callers a month. Usually some maniac in the boonies with an old Thinkpad
and a long-distance plan to call Toronto and wayyyyy too much free time. Who has complained via email - Internet email - when he can't dial in. To my BBS.

The decision to pay for those things and my DOS BBS also powers the entire backoffice operation of Fidonet between two zones, tosses mail to close to a hundred links using some stuff dating back to... '87 I think. All for others
to keep enjoying... Ask TJ/Exodus, I really only use RG for cranking out messages. Thousands, literally thousands I've written since '94. If others call my board and enjoy whats here, good for them.

While our resident Professor effeminately screams murder that I'll be "hacked tomorrow" I've made many long lasting friendships from running that silly system or at least able to trade bizarre banter with total strangers. Theres something amusing about not knowing who will vanish tomorrow... who will
die and leave their computer unattended until a relative, police or landlord shuts it off. I have a very morbid dark sense of humor.

"Retarded" is very subjective... 99% of the world thinks we're ALL nuts for what we're doing here.

Nick

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"Retarded" is very subjective... 99% of the world thinks we're ALL nuts for what we're doing here.

I tend to agree with the 99% lol.

You seem like you know how to properly run a VLAN and insulate yourself. Good on you. I can't say the same for other sysops necessarily...real security requires dedication, as the risk landscape changes daily. My personal preference is to dump this responsibility onto people that run big datacenters leasing VPS slices where a core part of their business relies on preventing nefarious actors from exploiting things.

I mean, if I wake up tomorrow and my wife bought a new toaster that hooks up to the internet, to me, that's a risk...I had to convince her why we don't hook the Samsung SmartTV up to the internet. And my firewall is completely closed.

I also suffer a bit of paranoia due to some of the work I did in the past on behalf of the government while abroad.

In any case I didn't mean to insult anyone for doing things the way you do, it was more a response to how TJ was phrasing things which got under my skin a bit.

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It's in every update archive.

Ok, so, I went on rgbbs.info and I see no history or changelog. I see some downloads so I snag the 1.30 full install. I unzip it. There is no history or changelog. I install it. I see no history or changelog. In RGV130.DOC there is mention of a WHATDONE file which I can't find anywhere.

So, where is someone supposed to know the new features you're building? I am at a loss :)

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To: Ryan Fantus
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: Ryan Fantus to T.J. Mcmillen on Fri Dec 09 2022 04:30 pm

So I've stayed out of the conversation til now but feel compelled to respond a bit here. I don't use Synchronet /or/ Renegade and don't have a dog in this specific fight, but...where's the history file? A comprehensive whatsnew or what differentiates one version to the next? Unless you're a Renegade diehard, I don't see many people walking up and looking at RG as an option without understanding what's happening with each release. It's pretty black box. Just my $.02.

I think they have some imcomplete textfiles with some versions telling you what you have to do to update. It's really a hassle for people to take their old renegade bbses and attempt to update it to a current version.

You have to merge the string files, do other various operations and run the update. It's almost impossible for someone to take their old bbs from years ago and have it running on a newer version of renegade. But tj doesnt want that and has complained about me keeping old versions of renegade, asking why I even do it.

Why would I make BBS setup with doors and everything else? So some dumb ass can unzip it and put it online? No. This hobby was NEVER

To answer tj's question it was for 2 reasons. One i wont say because it's obvious, so obvious people dont notice it. The best way to hide something is out in the open.

The other reason is as an example of how to setup the most popular doorgames.

like those stupid mystic youtube videos. Seriously? If you can't setup the BBS software from the docs, YOU DO NOT NEED TO RUN ONE because you
do not understand it at all!

This hobby is whatever someone wants it to be. This is very gatekeeper-ish. There are many cool BBSes online that leverage some more modern technology. And the Mystic YouTube videos democratized FTN.

It's a free country and people can do whatever they want to do. TJ wants to claim to be the renegade developer even though some other guy is always doing the programming who adds these sad, small additions. Nobody can stop him. He can keep editting wikipedia all the time with lies and keep going around telling people to take down the renegadebbs.net links,etc. I don't care.

He thinks renegadebbs.net is my site. He tells people to take it down because it's my site and I'm such a jerk, etc. Whatever, I just host it.

I could do the same thing. I could put my name on renegade and make stupid little changes because I'm a crappy programmer, or I could get someone else to do it like tj does. I just don't have the drive for dumb shit like that.

Regarding his documentation comments, the rg docs are very very old and do not provide enough information on how to operate current versions of renegade and the features that lee palmer and others have added. You have to find this information by asking tj. That's not a very good way to do things.

I rebuilt a car engine with the help of YouTube. No purists yelled at me about doing it wrong since I didn't sit there with a howto manual printed in black and white.

I had a mouse get in my garage and chew through wires in my car. When I started up my car it blew out my main fuse and other components and fried wiring. without youtube(and amazon) I would have ended up paying 5k to some garage when instead, i fixed it over a few weekends at my own pace.

Third, how many retards run their BBS in the cloud? That is STUPID. If you don't want to put the time in, the money, the hardware, get out of the hobby. Oh hi, I run a BBS it's at blah blah blah, I log in every
5 weeks and see if the VM on my cloudhost I PAY stupid amounts of

To answer tj's question, if you are smart you are running your bbs on a server. It will always be up and it's easy to backup. it's not taking up space at home. He's just jealous because he couldn't do it for a few reasons.
He doesn't have the money. He doesn't understand linux.

How many people let the internet into their home firewall because they want to run a DOS BBS? If you ask me, /THAT/ is what's retarded. I travel for work a lot and run everything in the cloud because I'm not 14 sitting in my parents' basement waiting for someone to dial into my BBS.

If you are on the internet and running any kind of server, that's like painting a target on your back. My server has DDOS protection and techs will actually jump in and handle attacks if it's needed. People should not run a server on their home internet. If all my stuff "crashes"(whatever that is, sysops always use that word), I just copy it back over.

Anyway I don't intend to go back and forth and/or fight about this stuff, I just felt compelled to call out the immaturity and gatekeeping here. Yeah, you're talking to jas, but you're posting on a forum with other people, and your general attitude here is one that makes me scratch my head.

Not jas; I'm mr professor now. It's because I'm so smart because I run servers and use linux. Atleast to 16bit d'bridge author and tj, I am.
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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Ryan Fantus on Fri Dec 09 2022 09:24 pm

you're talking to jas, but you're posting on a forum with other people, an

I'm just talking to a jackhole that doesn't know when to shut his mouth (Jas, not you) .... if you ever saw that crap before you understand.

You just want me to shut my mouth because I speak the truth.
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To: Ryan Fantus
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: Ryan Fantus to T.J. Mcmillen on Sat Dec 10 2022 03:34 am

It's in every update archive.

Ok, so, I went on rgbbs.info and I see no history or changelog. I see some downloads so I snag the 1.30 full install. I unzip it. There is no history or changelog. I install it. I see no history or changelog. In RGV130.DOC there is mention of a WHATDONE file which I can't find anywhere.

So, where is someone supposed to know the new features you're building? I am at a loss :)

Tj is blind and doesn't realize that people don't **want** to run the current version of renegade. If anything, they want to revive their old renegade bbs. to do that, they need correct information to do this.

Even if they get ahold of the old files and update they will need
to ask TJ to fix the things that aren't documented.

It's very important to have a changelog in one file so people can patch up to current versions.
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Ok, so, I went on rgbbs.info and I see no history or changelog. I see some downloads so I snag the 1.30 full install. I unzip it. There is no history changelog. I install it. I see no history or changelog. In RGV130.DOC ther mention of a WHATDONE file which I can't find anywhere.

The change log is in the UPDATE archives. No need to put a whatdone in a new full install. Who would care what was done when they are "new". I used to have it as a running list, but it got WAYYY to long, so I just put the change from last ver to this ver in each update log.

You can also see what has changed since 1.30 over here on my main menu for the next up coming release.

... It's a Satanic drug thing - You WOULDN'T understand...

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I'm just talking to a jackhole that doesn't know when to shut his mouth (Jas, not you) .... if you ever saw that crap before you understand.

You just want me to shut my mouth because I speak the truth.

Whatever Joe Biden.

... Give 'em a fair trial, then hang 'em!

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On 10 Dec 22 03:30:57, Ryan Fantus said the following to Nick Andre:

You seem like you know how to properly run a VLAN and insulate yourself. Go on you. I can't say the same for other sysops necessarily...real security requires dedication, as the risk landscape changes daily. My personal preference is to dump this responsibility onto people that run big datacent leasing VPS slices where a core part of their business relies on preventing nefarious actors from exploiting things.

The BBS is a small drop in the bucket when it comes to my tech, theres a fair bit of equipment running in this tiny apartment. Its my preference to host as much as I can at home, but OVH was the best VPS provider I've dealt with over the years when I had a requirement at one time to run one.

Have always been a huge fan at home for Pfsense, Pfblocker-Ng and Snort, zero problems here. Rack servers and commercial grade stuff in use; probably overkill but whatever I was using at work I had found the best way to really be good at my job was to go host the same setup at home.

In any case I didn't mean to insult anyone for doing things the way you do, was more a response to how TJ was phrasing things which got under my skin a bit.

No insult taken... its words on a silly net...

Nick

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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Ryan Fantus on Sat Dec 10 2022 08:20 am

The change log is in the UPDATE archives. No need to put a whatdone in a new full install. Who would care what was done when they are "new". I used to have it as a running list, but it got WAYYY to long, so I just put the change from last ver to this ver in each update log.

You can also see what has changed since 1.30 over here on my main menu for the next up coming release.

so who writes these files? you or the real programmer?
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Love that new board of yours.

... OK, I've pulled the pin. Now what ? Where are you going ?

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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Sat Dec 10 2022 09:51 am

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Love that new board of yours.

yep you still dont understand.
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Love that new board of yours.

yep you still dont understand.
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Oh I get it.

... Sometimes even fools make good suggestions.

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The change log is in the UPDATE archives. No need to put a whatdone in
a new full install. Who would care what was done when they are "new".
I used to have it as a running list, but it got WAYYY to long, so I
just put the change from last ver to this ver in each update log.

Any reason you can't have a running changelog on the website? I can't say I agree with your assessment here. The Synchronet changelog and Mystic changelog are both extremely useful.

So the answer is, maybe you are not someone that would care, but that's because you innately know what's new and none of us do. :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
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Any reason you can't have a running changelog on the website? I can't say I agree with your assessment here. The Synchronet changelog and Mystic change are both extremely useful.

So the answer is, maybe you are not someone that would care, but that's because you innately know what's new and none of us do. :)

I probably can ... no one has ever asked for it. Might look into it when I'm off work for Christmas week. It's a long damn list from 2003 until now.

I actually was porting my v1.30 DOCs (which mr. professor says aren't real) to amke some nce HTML screens for them, but the way I want to do it with charts and tables is taking some time. (Lots of copy/paste, OCD sets in, etc. <G>).

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Any reason you can't have a running changelog on the website? I can't say

2713 lines long is the changelog .... I'll get around to it here sooner or later. Was going to post it here in raw form, but I'd have to cut it into like 10 msgs.

... Hard Work never killed anyone, so why chance it?

--- Renegade v1.31/Exp
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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Ryan Fantus on Sat Dec 10 2022 05:28 pm

So the answer is, maybe you are not someone that would care, but that's because you innately know what's new and none of us do. :)

I probably can ... no one has ever asked for it. Might look into it when I'm off work for Christmas week. It's a long damn list from 2003 until now.

I actually was porting my v1.30 DOCs (which mr. professor says aren't real) to amke some nce HTML screens for them, but the way I want to do it with

that's because nobody wants to run renegade.

if you are making html screens have someone else do it just like your coding. your html skills look like dogshit. and coming from me, that's saying a lot. --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: FTelnet Y-Modem G
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Ryan Fantus on Sat Dec 10 2022 05:54 pm

Any reason you can't have a running changelog on the website? I can't say

2713 lines long is the changelog .... I'll get around to it here sooner or later. Was going to post it here in raw form, but I'd have to cut it into like 10 msgs.

this is the bbs_carnival echo. not a renegade echo.
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
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2713 lines long is the changelog .... I'll get around to it here sooner or later. Was going to post it here in raw form, but I'd have to cut it into like 10 msgs.

this is the bbs_carnival echo. not a renegade echo.

I'm sorry, I was absent from class today.

... Forget the manual, phone the author at home!

--- Renegade v1.31/Exp
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2713 lines long is the changelog .... I'll get around to it here sooner
or later. Was going to post it here in raw form, but I'd have to cut
it into like 10 msgs.

Ha, yeah, that would be tough. Having it on the website would be cool, though...I'd love to peruse. Thanks.

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