• Re: Letsyncrypt/Certbot

    From Mortifis@VERT/EPHRAM to Dan Clough on Saturday, June 13, 2020 15:43:59
    Mortifis wrote to All <=-

    Wanting and/or needing Lets Encrypt on a Slackware 14.2 Linux
    system has to be the most brutal approach anyone can imaging ....
    I have always enjoyed the hands-on Slackware requires, but
    acquiring the prerequisite for various packages is very time
    consuming and often results in a broken system ... I am
    definitely considering to finally switch my server needs over to
    a deb* based system ... so long Slackware, it's been a long 24
    years :-/

    Have you thought about trying this? (I haven't as I don't
    need/use LetsEncrypt):

    https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/system/letsencrypt/

    You're likely familiar with SBo, and yes.... there are a *LOT* of dependencies listed there. But, they're all available right there
    on SBo, probably wouldn't be *TOO* bad to get it done.

    Don't give up on Slackware! We need all of us there are left...!
    ;-) I will say I'm getting tired of waiting for 15.0... been over
    three years now since 14.2 was released. Arggghhhh.

    Sadly, I did give up on Slackware a year ago for an easier update management type OS :/

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  • From Arelor@VERT/HAVENS to Mortifis on Saturday, June 13, 2020 17:00:01
    Re: Re: Letsyncrypt/Certbot
    By: Mortifis to Dan Clough on Sat Jun 13 2020 03:43 pm

    Slackware is not that hard to manage, really. I mean, if you want automatic dependency resolution, you can use sbotools or something like that. It is not much different to using OpenBSD ports.

    *deb distributions work until you try to use a third party deb package that pulls weird dependencies in, or try to do something weird yourself... they are more convenient in principle but if you want to go the Power User route they are very stiff. Dependency hell is a thing.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Mortifis on Saturday, June 13, 2020 20:01:00
    Mortifis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Don't give up on Slackware! We need all of us there are left...!
    ;-) I will say I'm getting tired of waiting for 15.0... been over
    three years now since 14.2 was released. Arggghhhh.

    Sadly, I did give up on Slackware a year ago for an easier update management type OS :/

    Yeah, can't really blame ya... it can be a pain at times. I'm
    still with it, and probably will stay. I do play with
    Debian/variants on other machines, and that apt stuff sure is nice
    for updates... ;-)



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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Arelor on Saturday, June 13, 2020 22:34:29
    Re: Re: Letsyncrypt/Certbot
    By: Arelor to Mortifis on Sat Jun 13 2020 05:00 pm

    Slackware is not that hard to manage, really. I mean, if you want automatic dependency resolution, you can use sbotools or something like that. It is not much different to using OpenBSD ports.

    *deb distributions work until you try to use a third party deb package that pulls weird dependencies in, or try to do something weird yourself... they are more convenient in principle but if you want to go the Power User route they are very stiff. Dependency hell is a thing.

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    I almost installed Slack today... I went with FreeBSD and Arch; but I should dig into Slack... I *REALLY* like FreeBSD for building... and I'm new; this is my first Arch box... but MAN!; I like it so far. :P

    Slackware is on my radar as I figure out where I wanna live; and build... Slack could be a great building box... and I know you'll tell me it could be a great daily driver too. :P

    woot woot

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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Gamgee on Saturday, June 13, 2020 22:35:20
    Re: Re: Letsyncrypt/Certbot
    By: Gamgee to Mortifis on Sat Jun 13 2020 08:01 pm

    Mortifis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Don't give up on Slackware! We need all of us there are left...!
    ;-) I will say I'm getting tired of waiting for 15.0... been over
    three years now since 14.2 was released. Arggghhhh.

    Sadly, I did give up on Slackware a year ago for an easier update
    management type OS :/

    Yeah, can't really blame ya... it can be a pain at times. I'm
    still with it, and probably will stay. I do play with
    Debian/variants on other machines, and that apt stuff sure is nice
    for updates... ;-)

    Slacks scripting method is one reason why I was *drawn* to it... the package manager thru scripts isn't all... it has its benefits too.

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  • From Arelor@VERT to paulie420 on Sunday, June 14, 2020 02:55:02
    Re: Re: Letsyncrypt/Certbot
    By: paulie420 to Arelor on Sat Jun 13 2020 10:34 pm

    I almost installed Slack today... I went with FreeBSD and Arch; but I should dig into Slack... I *REALLY* like FreeBSD for building... and I'm new; this my first Arch box... but MAN!; I like it so far. :P

    Slackware is on my radar as I figure out where I wanna live; and build... Sl could be a great building box... and I know you'll tell me it could be a gre daily driver too. :P

    woot woot

    FreeBSD is nice. It has always felt like a BSD licensed Linux for me for some reason, so I don't use it much, though.

    I use (mostly) Slackware for workstations and desktops, and OpenBSD for servers. I'd go with OpenBSD for more workstations if working with removable media wasn't crude at best with it.

    If you are interested in compiling packages en masse, OpenBSD ships by default with a tool for setting package builder clusters.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to paulie420 on Sunday, June 14, 2020 07:50:00
    paulie420 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Don't give up on Slackware! We need all of us there are left...!
    ;-) I will say I'm getting tired of waiting for 15.0... been over
    three years now since 14.2 was released. Arggghhhh.

    Sadly, I did give up on Slackware a year ago for an easier update
    management type OS :/

    Yeah, can't really blame ya... it can be a pain at times. I'm
    still with it, and probably will stay. I do play with
    Debian/variants on other machines, and that apt stuff sure is nice
    for updates... ;-)

    Slacks scripting method is one reason why I was *drawn* to it...
    the package manager thru scripts isn't all... it has its benefits
    too.

    Yes, I know. Been using it daily for 20+ years. My BBS runs on
    it. This message comes from my daily driver laptop running it.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Sunday, June 14, 2020 07:19:00
    Arelor wrote to paulie420 <=-

    FreeBSD is nice. It has always felt like a BSD licensed Linux for me
    for some reason, so I don't use it much, though.

    Before Linux was ready for the datacenter, I used BSD/OS and later
    FreeBSD for my company's internet presence, and really enjoyed the
    environment. Always wanted to load up old-school 4.4BSD on something
    to play with...


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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Gamgee on Sunday, June 14, 2020 15:46:43
    Re: Re: Letsyncrypt/Certbot
    By: Gamgee to paulie420 on Sun Jun 14 2020 07:50 am

    paulie420 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Slacks scripting method is one reason why I was *drawn* to it...
    the package manager thru scripts isn't all... it has its benefits
    too.

    Yes, I know. Been using it daily for 20+ years. My BBS runs on
    it. This message comes from my daily driver laptop running it.

    Lol - So I know who to bug when its giving me issues. :P You know, Arch linux was really the first distro that helped me to 'get it'. Like... I'm UNDERSTANDING what make clean install does now; I'm loving the AUR repo (I know, not Slack but..)... both Slack & FreeBSD also work in these logical ways - and kinda force or push the user to understand and grasp things as opposed to just google searching on an iPad next to 'said' linux box and typing in 'answers'.

    Since I installed ARCH, these other systems like Slack and FreBSD are making a lot more sense. Build what you need, nothing else.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/HAVENS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, June 14, 2020 17:10:09
    Re: Re: Letsyncrypt/Certbot
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sun Jun 14 2020 07:19 am

    Before Linux was ready for the datacenter, I used BSD/OS and later
    FreeBSD for my company's internet presence, and really enjoyed the
    environment. Always wanted to load up old-school 4.4BSD on something
    to play with...

    That is before my times, but somebody I knew ran a BSD 3.x (I think) nowadays. He let me log in even. The MOTD told you to send your bug reports via snail mail. The old times!

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, June 14, 2020 20:59:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-

    FreeBSD is nice. It has always felt like a BSD licensed Linux for me
    for some reason, so I don't use it much, though.

    Before Linux was ready for the datacenter, I used BSD/OS and
    later FreeBSD for my company's internet presence, and really enjoyed
    the environment. Always wanted to load up old-school 4.4BSD on
    something to play with...

    It's just a VM away... ;-)



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