• "not smart" linux questio

    From Warp 4@VERT/WILDCAT to Android8675 on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 17:08:00
    Android8675 wrote to all <=-

    So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just
    ^^^^^^
    First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like
    CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases
    of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all
    day long <smiles>).

    made it so I can SSH (with key) from my Windows desktop using PuTTY,
    but if I want to get the graphical look back is running something like "Xming X Server" the route I want to use, or can I startup xwindows on
    the Ubuntu system and remote connect? Basically I just want to be able
    to run stuff like gtkmonitor instead of umonitor so I can keep an eye
    on system status, or run a couple random xwindows bits for fun.

    PuTTY and XMink are, in my experience, your best solution. We use it
    where I work so that our developers can SSH into our application server
    and use XMing to run things like Eclipse, Firefox, etc, through the SSH
    tunnel while still having the command line.

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  • From anthk@VERT to Warp 4 on Wednesday, October 07, 2020 11:01:33
    Re: "not smart" linux questio
    By: Warp 4 to Android8675 on Tue Oct 06 2020 05:08 pm

    Android8675 wrote to all <=-

    So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just
    ^^^^^^
    First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases
    of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all
    day long <smiles>).

    made it so I can SSH (with key) from my Windows desktop using PuTTY, but if I want to get the graphical look back is running something like "Xming X Server" the route I want to use, or can I startup
    xwindows on
    the Ubuntu system and remote connect? Basically I just want to be able to run stuff like gtkmonitor instead of umonitor so I can keep an eye on system status, or run a couple random xwindows bits for fun.

    PuTTY and XMink are, in my experience, your best solution. We use it
    where I work so that our developers can SSH into our application server
    and use XMing to run things like Eclipse, Firefox, etc, through the SSH tunnel while still having the command line.

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

    On top of that, I'd use Vcxsrv instead of XMing, as Vcxsrv support
    hardware accelerated rendering.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Warp 4 on Wednesday, October 07, 2020 08:12:39
    Re: "not smart" linux questio
    By: Warp 4 to Android8675 on Tue Oct 06 2020 05:08 pm

    So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just
    ^^^^^^
    First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases
    of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all
    day long <smiles>).

    So I've been tinkering with Unix since SCO Unix, but it wasn't until Debian/Ubuntu that I started to really like using *nix like OSs. (That and I'm just tired of Windows bullshit). I used RedHat for a short while (couldn't tell you what version. 3? 4?). So what's RHEL mean? What makes Cent/Fedora different? Keep in mind I am not super into kernal hacking or doing weird shit. I can build source if I have a walkthrough/INSTALL file on hand, but I'm not a genious guy.

    PuTTY and XMink are, in my experience, your best solution. We use it
    where I work so that our developers can SSH into our application server
    and use XMing to run things like Eclipse, Firefox, etc, through the SSH tunnel while still having the command line.

    I got Xming working at my work PC, but what kind of bandwidth do you need? my upstream pipe from home is like 10-15mbps so not amazingly fast. Seems really sluggish, but maybe I have something setup incorrectly?

    -A.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Android8675 on Wednesday, October 07, 2020 13:15:35
    Re: "not smart" linux questio
    By: Android8675 to Warp 4 on Wed Oct 07 2020 08:12 am

    First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all day long <smiles>).

    So I've been tinkering with Unix since SCO Unix, but it wasn't until Debian/Ubuntu that I started to really like using *nix like OSs. (That and I'm just tired of Windows bullshit). I used RedHat for a short while (couldn't tell you what version. 3? 4?). So what's RHEL mean?

    RedHat Enterprise Linux.

    What makes Cent/Fedora different?

    Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the community/free version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Thursday, October 08, 2020 16:28:00
    On 10-07-20 13:15, Digital Man wrote to Android8675 <=-

    Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the
    community/free version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

    Fedora is also the development platform for Red Hat, and uses newer package versions. Fedora also has a much more rapid release cycle, reflecting its purpose for trying out updates.


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  • From BlaZ@VERT/PNLTYBOX to Digital Man on Thursday, October 08, 2020 06:19:47
    Re: "not smart" linux questio
    By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Wed Oct 07 2020 01:15 pm

    What makes Cent/Fedora different?

    Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the community/free version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

    I've run both on my Linux server. Fedora server gets updates and new kernels all the time, which can be obnoxious. CentOS/RHEL have a longer release cycle and don't receive as many updates. I was having issues with my Plex server and Virtualbox with CentOS/RHEL when 8 was released initially. I switched to Fedora and it works fine. Those issues are probably fixed but I feel no motivation to switch back.

    BlaZ

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  • From Warp 4@VERT/WILDCAT to BlaZ on Thursday, October 08, 2020 08:56:50
    On 10/8/2020 6:19 AM, BlaZ wrote:
    Re: "not smart" linux questio
    By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Wed Oct 07 2020 01:15 pm

    > > What makes Cent/Fedora different?
    >
    > Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the community/free
    > version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different
    > Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

    I've run both on my Linux server. Fedora server gets updates and new kernels all the time, which can be obnoxious. CentOS/RHEL have a longer release cycle and don't receive as many updates. I was having issues with my Plex server and Virtualbox with CentOS/RHEL when 8 was released initially. I switched to Fedora and it works fine. Those issues are probably fixed but I feel no motivation to switch back.

    IIRC, Fedora is like Ubuntu is such that it gets more frequent updates
    from upstream sources. CentOS 8 has a "Stream" version which is
    basically, from what I can tell, their version of Fedora.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to anthk on Saturday, October 10, 2020 19:07:35
    On 10/7/2020 11:01 AM, anthk wrote:

    On top of that, I'd use Vcxsrv instead of XMing, as Vcxsrv support
    hardware accelerated rendering.

    Was just playing with vcxsrv the other day for gui from wsl2, still need
    to figure out pulseaudio though... then a script to get those and linux
    gui apps better integrated.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to anthk on Thursday, October 15, 2020 13:11:30
    Re: "not smart" linux questio
    By: anthk to Warp 4 on Wed Oct 07 2020 11:01 am

    On top of that, I'd use Vcxsrv instead of XMing, as Vcxsrv support
    hardware accelerated rendering.

    yeah, that seems better. thanks.

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