Hi folks:

I was just wondering which executes faster Baja or
JScript? I find Baja faster to code with, for
obvious reasons, but I would like to advance my
skills into JScript.

One other question, the node display at the end of
login when other nodes are in use, where is that? I
don't see it or login or logon jcsripts.

Thanks,
John

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Re: JScript vs Baja
By: John to All on Fri Dec 18 2020 04:45 pm

Hi folks:

I was just wondering which executes faster Baja or
JScript?

Baja modules will startup faster than JavaScript modules, but once initialized, the JavaScript code will run faster.

I find Baja faster to code with, for
obvious reasons, but I would like to advance my
skills into JScript.

I think you mean JavaScript. "JScript" is Microsoft's implmentation of ECMAScript, which is pretty similar to the JavaScript engine used in Synchronet, but not identical.

One other question, the node display at the end of
login when other nodes are in use, where is that? I
don't see it or login or logon jcsripts.

It's in the C/C++ source, logon.cpp.
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Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Digital Man to John on Fri Dec 18 2020 05:05 pm

Many Thanks, as always!:)

I will refer to it as javascript then from now on!:)

Regards,
John

John

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On 12/18/2020 9:45 AM, John wrote:

Hi folks:

I was just wondering which executes faster Baja or
JScript? I find Baja faster to code with, for
obvious reasons, but I would like to advance my
skills into JScript.

One other question, the node display at the end of
login when other nodes are in use, where is that? I
don't see it or login or logon jcsripts.

I'm totally biased, but JavaScript or JS (not JScript) is far and away a
more capable language for areas beyond telnet interaction and better
even for it imho.

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Tracker1 to John on Sun Dec 20 2020 07:45 pm

Hi Mike:

Thanks for the input... Coming from a structured language like turbopascal/freepascal, cobol, yes i said cobol lol, etc... I am just trying to get used to the perceived lack of structure...

Thanks,
John

jc

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On 12/21/2020 8:19 AM, jc wrote:

Thanks for the input... Coming from a structured language like turbopascal/freepascal, cobol, yes i said cobol lol, etc... I
am just trying to get used to the perceived lack of structure...

A couple months ago, I started on creating TypeScript definitions for
use with Synchronet... just been too busy dealing with work and home to
finish it.

It's really not so bad though, JS is my favorite language, I also work a
lot in C# (Grandson language to Pascal) and dabling in Rust.

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Tracker1 to jc on Mon Dec 21 2020 18:19:28

lot in C# (Grandson language to Pascal) and dabling in Rust.

Really? C# has always reminded me a lot of Java...

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Sprite to Tracker1 on Tue Dec 22 2020 07:24 am

lot in C# (Grandson language to Pascal) and dabling in Rust.

Really? C# has always reminded me a lot of Java...

But remember, Java and JavaScript are two different languages. Yes, C# is a lot like Java (it seemed C# and the .NET platform in general) were designed similarly to Java, but JavaScript is significantly different and has much different use cases.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Sprite to Tracker1 on Tue Dec 22 2020 07:24 am

Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Tracker1 to jc on Mon Dec 21 2020 18:19:28

lot in C# (Grandson language to Pascal) and dabling in Rust.

Really? C# has always reminded me a lot of Java...

I think probably because Jscript is a scripting language, it is written more like a script than a program. When compared to other languages, I see it is rather wordy in comparison:) Strange...

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Nightfox to Sprite on Tue Dec 22 2020 01:24 pm

Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Sprite to Tracker1 on Tue Dec 22 2020 07:24 am

lot in C# (Grandson language to Pascal) and dabling in Rust.

Really? C# has always reminded me a lot of Java...

But remember, Java and JavaScript are two different languages. Yes, C# is a lot like Java (it
seemed C# and the .NET platform in general) were designed similarly to Java, but JavaScript is
significantly different and has much different use cases.

Nightfox

Hi Fox:

I concur, javascript seems great for things like Synchro, where there are specific functions, and each have their own script. The logic is easier to follow that way. In a very large program, those brackets become OOOooo lol

Thanks,
John

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Nightfox to Sprite on Tue Dec 22 2020 13:24:32

But remember, Java and JavaScript are two different languages. Yes, C# is a lot like Java (it seemed C# and the .NET platform in general) were designed similarly to Java, but JavaScript is significantly different and has much different use cases.

Well aware of the difference between Java & JavaScript. :) I suppose given the thread title, though...
I was just kind of surprised that someone would call it the grandson of Pascal. Pascal doesn't seem similar to it in the slightest, to me... More like of an offshoot of C...

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On 12/22/2020 6:24 AM, Sprite wrote:

lot in C# (Grandson language to Pascal) and dabling in Rust.

Really? C# has always reminded me a lot of Java...

C# has aspects from Java and Delphi (kind of a son to Pascal) and has
evolved since then.

Anders Hejlsberg was chief architect behind Delphi at Borland, then went
to MS to work on J++ and later the lead architect for C#. So there are definitely influences from both.

I happen to really like a lot of what C# does, they've managed to
integrate a lot of features in ways that don't feel completely wrong,
though I have mixed feelings on linq syntax (the extensions are great
though).

JavaScript is still my favorite language, generally speaking and I've
been warming up to TypeScript recently. Also dabbled in Rust a bit this
past year, which is nice, but I go a few months without touching it and
feels like starting over every single time.

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tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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On 12/22/2020 8:22 AM, jc wrote:

I think probably because Jscript is a scripting language, it is
written more like a script than a program. When compared to other
languages, I see it is rather wordy in comparison:) Strange...

JavaScript (not JScript) has evolved quite a bit, Synchronet is pretty
much EcmaScript (the specification) version 5 at this point, from the
engine used.

With other engines and runtimes, it can absolutely be used to write a
more feature rich application. As to being wordy, take a look at
PowerShell sometime.

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tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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On 12/23/2020 5:37 AM, Sprite wrote:

But remember, Java and JavaScript are two different languages. Yes, C# is a >> lot like Java (it seemed C# and the .NET platform in general) were designed >> similarly to Java, but JavaScript is significantly different and has much
different use cases.

Well aware of the difference between Java & JavaScript. :) I suppose
given the thread title, though...

I was just kind of surprised that someone would call it the grandson of Pascal. Pascal doesn't seem similar to it in the slightest, to me... More like of an offshoot of C...

I was saying that C# is the grandson of Pascal. Pascal begat Delphi,
Delphi + Java begat C#. So there are influences from C/C++/Java and Pascal/Delphi in C#.

JavaScript is more like a bastard child of scheme with curly braces.
Though it has evolved into something incredibly flexible, powerful and
useful by nature of being the language of the browser.

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tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Tracker1 to Sprite on Sun Dec 27 2020 01:26:29

I happen to really like a lot of what C# does, they've managed to
integrate a lot of features in ways that don't feel completely wrong,
though I have mixed feelings on linq syntax (the extensions are great though).

JavaScript is still my favorite language, generally speaking and I've
been warming up to TypeScript recently. Also dabbled in Rust a bit this past year, which is nice, but I go a few months without touching it and feels like starting over every single time.

I enjoy C#, too. I'm really glad that I've finally got enough memory in my primary desktop/server box to be able to run a virtual machine with enough memory to run 'doze & Visual Studio again here. I've neglected a couple of projects that I was working on there for at least 2 years now. I never really thought I'd like coding for 'doze, being as I loathe the operating system so much, but it's actually kind of fun programming for it, IMO.
I used to do a lot with DM's Synchronet JavaScript API, but I've never really done much with JavaScript in a browser with the DOM. I should probably learn it at some point, especially with the issues that I've been having with D3.js lately on one of my projects, though. And I really do want to
get back with my command shell work for Synchronet, too. It's been about 5 years since I've done much with it, but I don't think it'd take too terribly long to pick back up. I just need to not have a fulltime job any more. *grin*

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Re: Re: JavaScript vs Baja
By: Tracker1 to jc on Sun Dec 27 2020 01:30 am

On 12/22/2020 8:22 AM, jc wrote:

I think probably because Jscript is a scripting language, it is
written more like a script than a program. When compared to other languages, I see it is rather wordy in comparison:) Strange...

JavaScript (not JScript) has evolved quite a bit, Synchronet is pretty
much EcmaScript (the specification) version 5 at this point, from the
engine used.

With other engines and runtimes, it can absolutely be used to write a
more feature rich application. As to being wordy, take a look at
PowerShell sometime.

Thanks for that. I try to stay away from Windoze as much as I can lol. I am programming more and more in Javascript. Once you get used to the gotchas, it's pretty good. I find Baja pretty quick and dirty, but not as powerful obviously. No arrays, proper looping etc.

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Re: Re: JScript vs Baja
By: Tracker1 to Sprite on Sun Dec 27 2020 01:34 am

On 12/23/2020 5:37 AM, Sprite wrote:

But remember, Java and JavaScript are two different languages. Yes, C# is a >> lot like Java

(it
seemed C# and the .NET platform in general) were designed >> similarly to Java, but JavaScript is
significantly different and has much

different use cases.

Well aware of the difference between Java & JavaScript. :) I suppose given the thread title, though...

I was just kind of surprised that someone would call it the grandson of Pascal. Pascal doesn't
seem similar to it in the slightest, to me... More like of an offshoot of C...

I was saying that C# is the grandson of Pascal. Pascal begat Delphi,
Delphi + Java begat C#. So there are influences from C/C++/Java and Pascal/Delphi in C#.

JavaScript is more like a bastard child of scheme with curly braces.
Though it has evolved into something incredibly flexible, powerful and useful by nature of being the language of the browser.

Now that is a great summary!! lol. I am still getting used to the braces. I am converting my Mystic baja code to Javascript. That is what I meant as more wordy, Baja is very shorthanded to do something, JS I have to expand, although I am finding it pretty short once I am used to it.

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On 12/27/2020 7:11 AM, Sprite wrote:

I enjoy C#, too. I'm really glad that I've finally got enough memory in my
primary desktop/server box to be able to run a virtual machine with enough memory to run 'doze & Visual Studio again here. I've neglected a couple of projects that I was working on there for at least 2 years now. I never really
thought I'd like coding for 'doze, being as I loathe the operating system so much, but it's actually kind of fun programming for it, IMO.

FYI, you can use C# (.Net 5, formerly Core) cross platform with tooling
for Windows, Linux and MacOS. Though Visual Studio proper is still
windows, you can do a lot with VS Code and the command line tooling.

A lot of the apps at work are targetting Linux/Docker for testing.
Depending on what you're using in terms of dependencies may be easy
enough to update/port.

I used to do a lot with DM's Synchronet JavaScript API, but I've never really done much with JavaScript in a browser with the DOM. I should probably
learn it at some point, especially with the issues that I've been having with D3.js lately on one of my projects, though. And I really do want to
get back with my command shell work for Synchronet, too. It's been about 5 years since I've done much with it, but I don't think it'd take too terribly long to pick back up. I just need to not have a fulltime job any more. *grin*

LOL, yeah I understand trying to create time and motivation. Of course
modern node/browser/deno environment development is quite a bit
different than with Synchronet these days... SBBS feels kind of alien to
me now, not to mention all the work done by everyone since I last really worked much with it.

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