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  • Newbie Struggling to Get Apple II Connected

    From Sbushman@VERT to All on Sunday, July 04, 2021 21:51:39
    Hello,
    My google-fu and searching has failed me. I am super new to the world of
    BBSs and have decided to try running my own. I am running version 318b via
    a precompiled Windows build. After running through the wizard and doing a little network configuration I managed to get my BBS running! Yay! I am
    able connect with PuTTY (telnet) and have a friend connecting to the
    PETSCII ports via telnet on his C64. However, when I attempt to connect
    with my Apple II, I get disconnected due to inactivity shortly after connecting.

    Looking at the logs (pasted below) it appears that the terminal type my terminal emulator is reporting isn't recognized. I downloaded the source
    and am starting to look through it now, but it'll take some time for me to reason through it.

    Overall, I think what I'm reading is my terminal is reporting it's type as
    a vt100, and since that isn't of type ANSI, PETSCII, or UTF-8 the login
    module sets my inactive timeout to 0 and I get kicked. I'm able to connect
    to other BBSs running versions of Synchronet, so I believe it's a
    configuration problem on my end. Any help would be appreciated.

    Client machine: Apple IIe (on the same local network as my BBS server)
    Terminal Emulator: Telnet65, a part of the IP65 project
    Client networking hardware: Uthernet II
    Server OS: Windows 7 64-bit
    Synchronet Version: 318b (based on download archive filename)

    Debug log from Synchronet Control Panel:

    7/3 07:33:00p 1528 Telnet connection accepted from: 192.168.1.174 port 51074
    7/3 07:33:04p 1528 Telnet Hostname: <no name> [192.168.1.174]
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 constructor using socket 1528 (settings=8212)
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 temporary file directory: C:\sbbs\node1\temp\
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 socket 1528 duplicated as 816
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 socket 1528 attached to local interface
    192.168.1.166 port 23
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru listen socket 988 opened
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru socket listening on port 61700
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru connect socket 784 opened
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 JavaScript: Creating node runtime: 8388608 bytes
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 JavaScript: Initializing node context (stack:
    16384 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 07:33p Sat Jul 03 2021 Node 1
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 Telnet <no name> [192.168.1.174]
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: WILL Echo
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: WILL Suppress Go Ahead
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Terminal Type
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Send Location
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Negotiate About Window Size
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO New Environment Option
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: DO Echo
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: DO Suppress Go Ahead
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WILL Terminal Type
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 requesting telnet terminal type
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WILL Negotiate About Window
    Size
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Negotiate About Window Size (9 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet window size: 80x24
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T New Environment Option
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Terminal
    Type (11 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet terminal type: vt100
    7/3 07:33:10p Node 1 terminal type: 80x24 vt100
    7/3 07:33:10p Node 1 terminal not detected, reducing inactivity hang-up timeout to 0 seconds
    7/3 07:33:11p Node 1 Inactive
    7/3 07:33:11p Node 1 disconnecting client
    7/3 07:33:11p Node 1 passthru socket disconnected
    7/3 07:33:12p Node 1 input thread terminated (received 47 bytes in 4 blocks)
    7/3 07:33:12p Node 1 output thread terminated (sent 1024 bytes in 6
    blocks, 170 average, 0 short)
    7/3 07:33:13p Node 1 thread terminated (0 node threads remain, 21
    clients served)
    7/3 07:33:13p Node 1 JavaScript: Destroying context
    7/3 07:33:13p Node 1 JavaScript: Destroying runtime

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Sbushman on Monday, July 05, 2021 02:34:20
    Re: Newbie Struggling to Get Apple II Connected
    By: Sbushman to All on Sun Jul 04 2021 09:51 pm

    Hello,
    My google-fu and searching has failed me. I am super new to the world of BBSs and have decided to try running my own. I am running version 318b via
    a precompiled Windows build. After running through the wizard and doing a little network configuration I managed to get my BBS running! Yay! I am
    able connect with PuTTY (telnet) and have a friend connecting to the
    PETSCII ports via telnet on his C64. However, when I attempt to connect
    with my Apple II, I get disconnected due to inactivity shortly after connecting.

    Looking at the logs (pasted below) it appears that the terminal type my terminal emulator is reporting isn't recognized. I downloaded the source
    and am starting to look through it now, but it'll take some time for me to reason through it.

    Overall, I think what I'm reading is my terminal is reporting it's type as
    a vt100, and since that isn't of type ANSI, PETSCII, or UTF-8 the login module sets my inactive timeout to 0 and I get kicked. I'm able to connect to other BBSs running versions of Synchronet, so I believe it's a configuration problem on my end. Any help would be appreciated.

    Client machine: Apple IIe (on the same local network as my BBS server) Terminal Emulator: Telnet65, a part of the IP65 project
    Client networking hardware: Uthernet II
    Server OS: Windows 7 64-bit
    Synchronet Version: 318b (based on download archive filename)

    Debug log from Synchronet Control Panel:

    7/3 07:33:00p 1528 Telnet connection accepted from: 192.168.1.174 port 51074
    7/3 07:33:04p 1528 Telnet Hostname: <no name> [192.168.1.174]
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 constructor using socket 1528 (settings=8212)
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 temporary file directory: C:\sbbs\node1\temp\
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 socket 1528 duplicated as 816
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 socket 1528 attached to local interface 192.168.1.166 port 23
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru listen socket 988 opened
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru socket listening on port 61700
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru connect socket 784 opened
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 JavaScript: Creating node runtime: 8388608 bytes
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 JavaScript: Initializing node context (stack:
    16384 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 07:33p Sat Jul 03 2021 Node 1
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 Telnet <no name> [192.168.1.174]
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: WILL Echo
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: WILL Suppress Go Ahead
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Terminal Type
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Send Location
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Negotiate About Window Size
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO New Environment Option
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: DO Echo
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: DO Suppress Go Ahead
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WILL Terminal Type
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 requesting telnet terminal type
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WILL Negotiate About Window Size
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Negotiate About Window Size (9 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet window size: 80x24
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T New Environment Option
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Terminal Type (11 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet terminal type: vt100
    7/3 07:33:10p Node 1 terminal type: 80x24 vt100
    7/3 07:33:10p Node 1 terminal not detected, reducing inactivity hang-up timeout to 0 seconds

    This problem was fixed back in March (in exec/login.js). A simple work-around is to just remove the comment (and the semicolon) from the inactive_hangup line in your ctrl/modopts.ini file.
    --
    digital man

    Breaking Bad quote #11:
    My apologies to the HR department: Grow tumescent with anticipation. - Hank Norco, CA WX: 62.6°F, 87.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Sbushman@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, July 05, 2021 10:12:42
    Re: Newbie Struggling to Get Apple II Connected
    By: Sbushman to All on Sun Jul 04 2021 09:51 pm

    Hello,
    My google-fu and searching has failed me. I am super new to the world
    of
    BBSs and have decided to try running my own. I am running version
    318b
    via
    a precompiled Windows build. After running through the wizard and
    doing a
    little network configuration I managed to get my BBS running! Yay! I
    am
    able connect with PuTTY (telnet) and have a friend connecting to the PETSCII ports via telnet on his C64. However, when I attempt to
    connect
    with my Apple II, I get disconnected due to inactivity shortly after connecting.

    Looking at the logs (pasted below) it appears that the terminal type
    my
    terminal emulator is reporting isn't recognized. I downloaded the
    source
    and am starting to look through it now, but it'll take some time for
    me
    to reason through it.

    Overall, I think what I'm reading is my terminal is reporting it's
    type
    as
    a vt100, and since that isn't of type ANSI, PETSCII, or UTF-8 the
    login
    module sets my inactive timeout to 0 and I get kicked. I'm able to connect to other BBSs running versions of Synchronet, so I believe
    it's a
    configuration problem on my end. Any help would be appreciated.

    Client machine: Apple IIe (on the same local network as my BBS
    server)
    Terminal Emulator: Telnet65, a part of the IP65 project
    Client networking hardware: Uthernet II
    Server OS: Windows 7 64-bit
    Synchronet Version: 318b (based on download archive filename)

    Debug log from Synchronet Control Panel:

    7/3 07:33:00p 1528 Telnet connection accepted from: 192.168.1.174 port 51074
    7/3 07:33:04p 1528 Telnet Hostname: <no name> [192.168.1.174]
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 constructor using socket 1528
    (settings=8212)
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 temporary file directory:
    C:\sbbs\node1\temp\
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 socket 1528 duplicated as 816
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 socket 1528 attached to local interface 192.168.1.166 port 23
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru listen socket 988 opened
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru socket listening on port 61700
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 passthru connect socket 784 opened
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 JavaScript: Creating node runtime: 8388608
    bytes
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 JavaScript: Initializing node context
    (stack:
    16384 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 07:33p Sat Jul 03 2021 Node 1
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 Telnet <no name> [192.168.1.174]
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: WILL Echo
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: WILL Suppress Go Ahead
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Terminal Type
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Send Location
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO Negotiate About
    Window
    Size
    7/3 07:33:04p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DO New Environment
    Option
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: DO Echo
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: DO Suppress Go Ahead
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WILL Terminal Type
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 requesting telnet terminal type
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 sending telnet cmd: DON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WILL Negotiate About
    Window
    Size
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Negotiate About Window Size (9 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet window size: 80x24
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T New Environment Option
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Terminal Speed
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet cmd: WON'T Send Location
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Terminal Type (11 bytes)
    7/3 07:33:05p Node 1 received telnet terminal type: vt100
    7/3 07:33:10p Node 1 terminal type: 80x24 vt100
    7/3 07:33:10p Node 1 terminal not detected, reducing inactivity hang-up timeout to 0 seconds

    This problem was fixed back in March (in exec/login.js). A simple work-around is to just remove the comment (and the semicolon) from the inactive_hangup line in your ctrl/modopts.ini file.
    --
    digital man

    Breaking Bad quote #11:
    My apologies to the HR department: Grow tumescent with anticipation. -
    Hank
    Norco, CA WX: 62.6¨F, 87.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches
    rain/24hrs

    That did the trick! Thank you so much :)

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