I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've
read everything. It's just not clicking for me. Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i
need to do. Gmail comes in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 -
gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

---
■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for me. Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail comes in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
--
digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
Norco, CA WX: 63.1°F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for m
Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail come
in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
--
digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
Norco, CA WX: 63.1°F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

Duck

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■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 06:43 pm

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for m Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail come in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?

No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

Not sure. I'm clear what Google is complaining about, but it does appear to be TLS-related.

You can try this, even just as an experiment: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:relay_smtp
--
digital man

Sling Blade quote #25:
Karl: they seen fit to put me in here and here I've been a great long while. Norco, CA WX: 54.3°F, 68.0% humidity, 5 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

---
■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 18:43:00

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking fo
Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail c
in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97)
created for Duck

Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
--
digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
Norco, CA WX: 63.1°F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

Duck

This gave me an error; 3/8 08:18:40p SYNCRYPT !JavaScript : uncaught exception:
newOrder responded with 400 not 201
Any idea?

---
■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 18:43:00

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking fo
Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail c
in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97)
created for Duck

Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
--
digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
Norco, CA WX: 63.1°F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

Duck

I have an SSL Certificate imported in now, but that still didn't work.
Do i have to use let's Encrypt?
Or do the SSL just doesn't matter?
Duck

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■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 08:19 pm

This gave me an error; 3/8 08:18:40p SYNCRYPT !JavaScript : uncaught exception: newOrder responded with 400 not 201
Any idea?

Apparently you're trying to use letsyncrypt and did something wrong. Deuce is the guy who wrote that and he would need more context/info to help (e.g. in #synchronet at irc.synchro.ent).
--
digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #43:
I feel my role in the band is ... kind of like lukewarm water.
Norco, CA WX: 51.8°F, 72.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 08:55 pm

I have an SSL Certificate imported in now, but that still didn't work.
Do i have to use let's Encrypt?
Or do the SSL just doesn't matter?

Apparently the SSL/TLS certificate is not used for outbound SMTP connections. So it's something else that's wrong.
--
digital man

Rush quote #16:
All the world's a stage and we are merely players, performers and portrayers Norco, CA WX: 51.8°F, 72.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 19:06:33

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 06:43 pm

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail
recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking
for m Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do
Gmail come in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more
information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp" instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #9
created for Duck

Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?

No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

Not sure. I'm clear what Google is complaining about, but it does appear to be
TLS-related.

You can try this, even just as an experiment: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:relay_smtp
--
digital man

Sling Blade quote #25:
Karl: they seen fit to put me in here and here I've been a great long while. Norco, CA WX: 54.3°F, 68.0% humidity, 5 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

no joy, same error
3/8 10:03:32p 0000 SEND Message #110 (18 of 18) from Duck #1 duck@ducksnest.guru to someone [someone@gmail.com]
3/8 10:03:32p 2948 SEND connecting to port 587 on MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET [71.95.196.36]
3/8 10:03:33p 2948 SEND TLS Session started successfully
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '535 Authentication failure' Expected: '235'
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied
with:
"535 Authentication failure"
instead of the expected reply:
"235 ...") for message #110 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #111) created
for Duck

duck

---
■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 10:09 pm

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 19:06:33

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 06:43 pm

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for m Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do Gmail come in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

Err:
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1
for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
"550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp" instead of the expected reply:
"250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #9 created for Duck

Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?

No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

Not sure. I'm clear what Google is complaining about, but it does appear to be TLS-related.

You can try this, even just as an experiment: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:relay_smtp

no joy, same error
3/8 10:03:32p 0000 SEND Message #110 (18 of 18) from Duck #1 duck@ducksnest.guru to someone [someone@gmail.com]
3/8 10:03:32p 2948 SEND connecting to port 587 on MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET [71.95.196.36]
3/8 10:03:33p 2948 SEND TLS Session started successfully
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '535 Authentication failure' Expected: '235'
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied with:
"535 Authentication failure"
instead of the expected reply:
"235 ...") for message #110 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #111) created for Duck

Well that's a different error. "Authentication failure" - looks like a problem with your name or password.
--
digital man

Rush quote #55:
He'd like a lover's wings to fly on, to a tropic isle of Avalon .. Digital Man Norco, CA WX: 51.7°F, 71.0% humidity, 6 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 09:15 pm

no joy, same error

Well that's a different error. "Authentication failure" - looks like a problem with your name or password.

Any logs on this side shows:
mail 0134 SMTPS [70.167.209.246] !FAILED Password attempt for user DUCK:

Your BBS's QWK-ID is "DUCKBBS". So, you should be using "DUCKBBS" as the mail relay user name as well.
--
digital man

Rush quote #34:
We go out in the world take our chances fate's just the weight of circumstances Norco, CA WX: 51.7°F, 71.0% humidity, 6 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

---
■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 21:19:17

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 09:15 pm

no joy, same error

Well that's a different error. "Authentication failure" - looks like a probl
with your name or password.

Any logs on this side shows:
mail 0134 SMTPS [70.167.209.246] !FAILED Password attempt for user DUCK:

Your BBS's QWK-ID is "DUCKBBS". So, you should be using "DUCKBBS" as the mail
relay user name as well.
--
digital man

Rush quote #34:
We go out in the world take our chances fate's just the weight of circumstances
Norco, CA WX: 51.7°F, 71.0% humidity, 6 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

Ok the relay works after fixing password n login

duck

---
■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 22:09:11

no joy, same error

no, that's an authentication failed... not the same as your previous one...

3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied
with: "535 Authentication failure" instead of the expected reply:

did you add your system's credentials to sbbs.ini RelayUsername and RelayPassword?? they would be the same as your QWK stuff since you're now trying to relay through vert...


)\/(ark

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■ Synchronet ■ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Rampage to Duck on Tue Mar 09 2021 04:36:40

Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 22:09:11

no joy, same error

no, that's an authentication failed... not the same as your previous one...

3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied
with: "535 Authentication failure" instead of the expected reply:

did you add your system's credentials to sbbs.ini RelayUsername and RelayPassword?? they would be the sa
as your QWK stuff since you're now trying to relay through vert...

)\/(ark

Rampage,
Thanks for the help. I know i don't explain things the best. The relay is now working and the creds
got inputted automatically to sbbs.ini. I still want to work out the previous problem of why i have an
issue with gmail. It seems it trys sending thrt port 25 , is there a way to make it send thru port 587
without a relay. Like i said yahoo and others work. There shouldn't be any issues since all my ports are
open and i'm on a business ISP line.

Duck

---
■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

Thanks for the help. I know i don't explain things the best. The relay is now working and the creds
got inputted automatically to sbbs.ini. I still want to work out the previous problem of why i have an
issue with gmail. It seems it trys sending thrt port 25 , is there a way to make it send thru port 587
without a relay.

Duck

You may have seen this on the synchronet wiki:

Add RELAY_TX and RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN to the Options key value in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.ini file. Example: Options = ALLOW_POP3 | RELAY_TX | RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN

Edit the following keys in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.ini file:

RelayServer=mail.synchro.net
RelayPort=587 <-----------------------------< THIS <---
RelayUsername=your BBS's QWK-ID
RelayPassword=your QWKnet account password

~mortifis

---
■ Synchronet ■ AlleyCat! BBS Game Server rlogin://alleycatbbs.com:5513

Re: Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Mortifis to Duck on Wed Mar 10 2021 08:18:07

Thanks for the help. I know i don't explain things the best. The relay is now working and the
creds
got inputted automatically to sbbs.ini. I still want to work out the previous problem of why i have
issue with gmail. It seems it trys sending thrt port 25 , is there a way to make it send thru port 58
without a relay.

Duck

You may have seen this on the synchronet wiki:

Add RELAY_TX and RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN to the Options key value in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.
file. Example: Options = ALLOW_POP3 | RELAY_TX | RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN

Edit the following keys in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.ini file:

RelayServer=mail.synchro.net
RelayPort=587 <-----------------------------< THIS <---
RelayUsername=your BBS's QWK-ID
RelayPassword=your QWKnet account password

~mortifis

These are all set. Like i said the relay works fine. but it's not really the goal that i was going for. I
want to work out the issue of why i can normally send out mail to other clients, such as yahoo and
others but not gmail clients. If i use the relay yes, it does. But i'd rather not use the relay.
SMTPPort = 25
SubmissionPort = 587
TLSSubmissionPort = 465
POP3Interface =
POP3Port = 110
TLSPOP3Port = 995
DefaultCharset = IBM437
DefaultUser = duck
DNSBlacklistHeader = X-DNSBL
DNSBlacklistSubject = SPAM
RelayServer = MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET
RelayPort = 587
; The following 2 keys are used if the RelayServer requires authentication (SMTP AUTH)
; Must also set one of the RELAY_AUTH options and when i use the relay the below is set

RelayUsername = my relay username is here
RelayPassword = my relay password is here
DNSServer = I have this set to my isp's
Thanks
Duck

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■ Synchronet ■ DUCKBBS

On 3/10/2021 7:06 PM, Duck wrote:

These are all set. Like i said the relay works fine. but it's not
really the goal that i was going for. I want to work out the issue
of why i can normally send out mail to other clients, such as yahoo
and others but not gmail clients. If i use the relay yes, it does.
But i'd rather not use the relay.

You will want to configure at least your SPF record. If you're hosting
from your home connection, your options are really limited. Usually you
would also want your reverse dns for your IP to match your hostname for
your MX record for your mail server. You will also want a clean and
static IP address assigned. Since Synchronet doesn't support DKIM, you
can use a self-hosted agent for outbound and optionally inbound checks
if you like. Even then you will likely have issues.

You should also test outlook.com/hotmail in addition to gmail, and
yahoo. In the end, using a relay is generally the least painful route
to go for better delivery.
--
Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com

Re: Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
By: Tracker1 to Duck on Thu Mar 11 2021 17:35:45

I have issues with gmail on almost all my sites, even those using the latest version of postfix. Works fine to yahoo/outlook/etc just gmail blocking them. Would love to get that resolved...

Marisa
--- https://SynchronetBBS.org/HostSplash - SBBS hosting for $14/month
■ Synchronet ■ Amiga City - The BBS for the Amiga - more than 4,000+ files

Tracker1 wrote to Duck <=-

You will want to configure at least your SPF record. If you're hosting from your home connection, your options are really limited. Usually
you would also want your reverse dns for your IP to match your hostname for your MX record for your mail server.

There's a great site I use called MXtoolbox.com that helps diagnose mail server problems.

I just resurrected a VPS I've been holding onto for a couple of years, and loaded postfix from package. I added SPF and DKIM records, and the DKIM
record seemed to do the trick to allow mail to pass to google.

I was able to find instructions on both online with google searches.


... Emphasize the flaws
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
■ Synchronet ■ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org

On 3/11/2021 3:30 PM, Marisag wrote:

I have issues with gmail on almost all my sites, even those using the
latest version of postfix. Works fine to yahoo/outlook/etc just gmail blocking them. Would love to get that resolved...

I just send my BBS outbound mail via SendGrid.com, the BBS fits in the
free tier. DKIM and SPF records in DNS are in place.

Right now, I have a mail server setup, but having issues with several
IPs I've tried blocked by hotmail's services... Will probably switch my sendgrid account to paid, or may setup to relay through AWS SES service.
--
Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

---
þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com

Tracker1 wrote to Marisag <=-

@VIA: VERT/TRN
@MSGID: <604F6652.38092.dove-syncdisc@roughneckbbs.com>
@REPLY: <604B0A8E.45513.dove-syncdisc@amigacity.xyz>
@TZ: fe5c
On 3/11/2021 3:30 PM, Marisag wrote:

I just send my BBS outbound mail via SendGrid.com, the BBS fits in
the free tier. DKIM and SPF records in DNS are in place.

Right now, I have a mail server setup, but having issues with
several IPs I've tried blocked by hotmail's services... Will
probably switch my sendgrid account to paid, or may setup to relay
through AWS SES service.

Unless you are really dumping messages out via SMTP, keeping with
SendGrid makes sense (their free tier is more than sufficient). AWS SES
is a good service but invites too many headaches into something
relatively simple like SendGrid. SES requires you to have an actual
MAIL FROM domain, which isn't that complicated, but the documentation
should be reviewed: https://amzn.to/2OrxpHl


Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
Caught in a Dream | caughtinadream.com a Synchronet BBS

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
--- MultiMail/Mac v0.52
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On 3/12/2021 8:08 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

You will want to configure at least your SPF record. If you're hosting
from your home connection, your options are really limited. Usually
you would also want your reverse dns for your IP to match your hostname
for your MX record for your mail server.

There's a great site I use called MXtoolbox.com that helps diagnose mail server problems.

Well, their sales tactics are kind of strong armed and their paid
accounts are way more than I'm willing to spend on this, roughly 10-20x
what a relay service would cost.

Of the 4 rbls that were flagged, two were false positives that weren't
listed on the actual rbl sites, one I was able to request automated
deletion and for the last, I went ahead and paid for 2 years of
whitelisting (www.whitelisted.org), mostly flagged because of the host provider's address block (DigitalOcean).

I just resurrected a VPS I've been holding onto for a couple of years, and loaded postfix from package. I added SPF and DKIM records, and the DKIM record seemed to do the trick to allow mail to pass to google.

I was able to find instructions on both online with google searches.

Yeah, I have DKIM and SPF setup correctly... google delivers fine,
didn't test yahoo mail, office365 is delivering without issue... but hotmail/outlook.com has a separate infrastructure that's been
problematic, I only paid for the 2-year whitelist as if that gets me to
my outlook.com email, I'll just leave it as-is and won't need a relay
service.

For reference, I'm using https://mailu.io/1.7/ via Docker using a
postgresql database. Was actually super easy to setup/configure,
biggest issue seems to be the DigitalOcean list...

It does seem that Azure might be your best bet for hosting an MTA
server, as their address blocks are pretty much clean. But the host
pricing it about 30-40% higher than DigitalOcean.

B2S (General Compute, 2cpu, 4gb) is $21/month on a reserved instance for
a year, and $32 on a monthly. Buying 3-year reserved instance would be
about $500 for the three years, and from experience about $5-10/month
for bandwidth and storage by the end of the term.

I might have been able to stick with sqlite and a 2gb service (the
anti-spam configuration recommends at least 1gb just for the anti-spam,
so 2gb is probably the lowest memory), adding postgresql in the mix
recommends 2gb by itself... so just went that direction.
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If a message area has old messages removed, does this change the message numbers? Does this affect the message numbers in NNTP?
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Re: Message area numbering
By: Tracker1 to Tracker1 on Mon Mar 15 2021 09:45 pm

If a message area has old messages removed, does this change the message numbers? Does this affect the message numbers in NNTP?

No.
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On 3/15/2021 10:54 PM, Digital Man wrote:

If a message area has old messages removed, does this change the message
numbers? Does this affect the message numbers in NNTP?

No.

Thank you.
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Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

It does seem that Azure might be your best bet for hosting an MTA
server, as their address blocks are pretty much clean. But the host pricing it about 30-40% higher than DigitalOcean.

Heck, I'm on a ChicagoVPS box, one's $55/year, the other $12/year, and they showed clean on mxtoolbox. Color me surprised.




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