Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

Not a full-on fan, that's my wife - but it's the Bills - the only New York team that actually *plays* in New York ;)

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HusTler wrote to All <=-

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans?
I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's
yours?

Screw the NFL.

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.



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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 06:38 pm

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who are not in the US?

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

Browns here. They looked sharp yesterday.

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Re: NFL
By: Hatton to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 09:16 pm

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

Not a full-on fan, that's my wife - but it's the Bills - the only New York t that actually *plays* in New York ;)

HA. Very true. It's bothered me for years the Jets and Giants don't play in New York anymore. New statiums are being built for other NFL teams. Maybe one will be built in New York eventually? Hey .. I can dream ;-). That said, the way both teams are playing it doesn't matter where they play. The good news is the Packers won a great game last night! Rogers is the man! :-)

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Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?

Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.



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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?

Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.

... All the easy problems have been solved.

Ah, I see.

I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there. Here in Spain, only soccer makes money... everything else does not really pull its weight.

My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how accurate my estimation was :-)

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?

Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.

Ah, I see.

I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there.
Here in Spain, only soccer makes money... everything else does
not really pull its weight.

Yes, I understand that soccer (football to you) is the biggest
thing in Europe (and other places). I played soccer myself in
school, but don't have a whole lot of interest in it any more. I
do try to watch the World Cup tournament when it comes around.

My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I
told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how
accurate my estimation was :-)

I think football (USA version) is probably the "biggest" sport
here these days, even despite the "social justice" issues that
have embroiled it. Baseball was always known to me as "America's
game", but seems to have declined in recent years. Most people
find it too slow-paced and boring. Basketball has it's following,
but I think it's also on the decline overall.

I have somewhat of a cyclic interest in baseball, but my
major/favorite sport is ice hockey. :-)



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Re: Re: NFL
By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 2020 02:58 am

Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 06:38 pm

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who are not in t US?

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Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on
how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

Some argue and say they don't go to an event for the opening ceremony and
don't care, and that's fine. There's enough people who disagreed and showed they can hurt the NFL financially. It boils down to how hypocritical things appear when a large money driven organization goes "woke" and their sudden awareness of social justice appears to be pandering to a specific group.

If a player wants my attention to a cause, take a knee during the game, especially during a play.

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Re: NFL
By: Codefenix to HusTler on Mon Sep 28 2020 06:47 am

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

Browns here. They looked sharp yesterday.

Been a long time for the Browns. How is this year looking for them?

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Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a
New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

Seahawks
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Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am

Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to take a knee, as some people say. Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Mon Sep 28 2020 12:24 pm

field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to take a knee, as some people say. Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

what i dont like about it is it was a huge distration and the media ate it up like crazy and then everyone had to hear about the kneeling. and then all the other people felt obligated to kneel or they were racist.
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Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am

Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I

Yes, because it shows respect to the flag, and the country, and
those who keep it free. This isn't unique to the USA, either.

don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to
take a knee, as some people say.

Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
of respectful.

Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.



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Re: Re: NFL
By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 2020 10:02 am

Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?

Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.

... All the easy problems have been solved.

Ah, I see.

I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there. Here in Spain only soccer makes money... everything else does not really pull its weight.

My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how accurate my estimation was

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Baseball is considered the national favorite, however I think there's way more
money behind pro football. Baseball has a simpler, more laid back
appearance, so when there is any controversy with the team owners or players, people tend to turn away from it for awhile. It has it's ups and downs, but there is always a dediciated group of followers that love it regardless what happens. My grandparents on my father's side lived in Bayside, NY up until
the 1950's and my grandfather worked for the NYPD in NYC. My grandmother's brother in law used to socialize at a club where the NY Yankees would go, and knew Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. One of my father's cousins told me their
uncle bought a baseball glove for Gehrig, and he used it for awhile.

My grandmother was a Cubs fan, and her sister and brother in law were die
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Re: Re: NFL
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Mon Sep 28 2020 12:24 pm

Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am

Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playin of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest dur the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was rever as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who ser and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how an extreme reaction.

Nightfox

The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to

take a knee, as some people say.

Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
of respectful.

I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking a knee for the anthem is not respectful. I'd think there's more than one way to show respect for something, and maybe I missed something, but I didn't think that just standing was the only mandated way to show respect for the anthem.

Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.

Perhaps they'd be able to explain it better.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 01:12 am

The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.

I can see that, yes. But if it's a matter of just how you respect the anthem, I'd think people can respect the anthem multiple ways.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 01:12 am

The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.

I can see that, yes. But if it's a matter of just how you
respect the anthem, I'd think people can respect the anthem
multiple ways.

I think you have a fundamental mis-understanding of why these
jerkoffs are kneeling. They are *NOT* doing it as an "alternate
way" to respect the anthem.

They are doing it purposely to show that they do NOT respect the
anthem, nor the nation that it stands for. They feel they have
been mis-treated by others in America, especially the police, and
choose this method to grandstand and introduce politics and
"social justice" into sporting events.

Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
*SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
"cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.

Ask yourself this question: How many of these "elite" athletes do
*ANYTHING* to further this political/social agenda of theirs,
*OUTSIDE* of a televised sporting event? How many of them are
actually out in their communities doing positive things to bring
about the change they desire. Things that actually help other
people, when there are no reporters or cameras around.

That's right. Virtually NONE of them. That should tell you
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Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
of respectful.

I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking a knee for the anthem is not respectful. I'd think there's more than one way to show respect for something, and maybe I missed
something, but I didn't think that just standing was the only mandated
way to show respect for the anthem.

Not being American but also from a country with a patriotic DNA toward symbols I still don't understand why Kaepernick was so much bashed after it.

To refer to above comments, some people come to the church and do not pray at all, don't react on moments when to knee and when to stand and all this rubbish actions that for sure catholic church educates you to do.. does it mean behavior is offensive to the faith and people should be crucified for it?

Maybe out of desperation he could not find other way to make a point. I consider it much more constructive what Kaepernick did than all that Black Lives Matter bullshit that came out of similar frustration but outcome is robbed stores and cars torched to the ground. And guess what.. people were kneeling back to terrorists to say I'm sorry.

I'm an outsider but I think America has a lot to learn how to deal with social unrest in a constructive way.

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to Codefenix on Mon Sep 28 2020 09:56 am

Been a long time for the Browns. How is this year looking for them?

A not-too-shabby 2-1 so far. They just won against Washington, which honestly could have gone either way, but always nice to see a win. They play Dallas next, so we'll see if they can keep the momentum going.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 2020 10:34 pm

Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to

take a knee, as some people say.

Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
of respectful.

I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking was the only mandated way to show respect for the anthem.

Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.

Perhaps they'd be able to explain it better.

Nightfox

Taking a knee is seen as a form of protest, and even thogh it's protesting police brutality against black people, it was done at that time of the game
on purpose. It was done to get attention and stick out during a time poeple will notice it.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 08:06 am

Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
*SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
"cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.

You know, something similar started happening to tabletop RPG games, which has ruined
a lot of games for me.

You try to have a very serious game about undead robots fighting alien werevolves and
then the manual throws you some political message in order to ruin your fun.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: hollowone to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 09:58 pm

To refer to above comments, some people come to the church and do not pray at all,
don't react on moments when to knee and when to stand and all this rubbish actions
that for sure catholic church educates you to do.. does it mean behavior is offensi
to the faith and people should be crucified for it?

I think it is assumed a lot of people goes to church without "knowing the moves". For
example, if they are going for the first time or whatever. I think not knowing what is
propper is somewhat excusable, specially on religions that promote giving-the-other-cheek or accepting that humans are falible and suck.

I am not church goer, but the times I have been to one because of social circumpstances I have done my best to adapt :-P


Now, I think we can agree taking a knee was a clear declaration of political affiliation. Much like singing "Cara Al Sol" in mass. Singing that is not an alternate
way of doing anything, it is just a way of declaring yourself a follower of General
Franco's Fascism. And it would not fly well among non-fascists.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?

Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.

I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly I love the game too much. I played the game myself in Jr High and High school so I'm emotionally attached. I've been watching very closely this disprespecting our flag and I must say they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lot of the "show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt Kapernick will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings down. Just keep your protests out of sports.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

Because you STAND during the singing of the National Anthem. It's not a debate open for discussion!

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Now, I think we can agree taking a knee was a clear declaration of political affiliation. Much like singing "Cara Al Sol" in mass. Singing that is not an alternate way of doing anything, it is just a way of declaring yourself a follower of General Franco's Fascism. And it would not fly well among non-fascists.

Got your point sir, although everything is contextual I just reminded myself watching TV while France was hosting Euro 2016 Football (Soccer) Cup and when hooligans were being discussed I saw some English supported peeing and spitting and torching my country's flag.

Well first thought I had actually was "Fuck the Brits, come and I'll shoot a bullet in your fucking head you half naked fucking monkey, next time you visit my country for a stag party, me and my boys will throw you to the river with concrete boots to make your adventure more comfy".

so.. yes.. relatively speaking people might have felt offended by that famous kneeling, big time.

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Re: NFL
By: Codefenix to HusTler on Tue Sep 29 2020 10:56 am

A not-too-shabby 2-1 so far. They just won against Washington, which honestl could have gone either way, but always nice to see a win. They play Dallas next, so we'll see if they can keep the momentum going.

Hey great for them! Did they get a win last year? 2-1 is a great start!

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 08:06 am

Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
*SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
"cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.

You know, something similar started happening to tabletop RPG
games, which has ruined a lot of games for me.

You try to have a very serious game about undead robots fighting
alien werevolves and then the manual throws you some political
message in order to ruin your fun.

Hehehe.

I didn't realize the politics had penetrated that deep into the
gaming world. :-)



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HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.

I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly I love the game too much. I played the game myself
in Jr High and High school so I'm emotionally attached. I've been
watching very closely this disprespecting our flag and I must say
they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lot of the
"show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt
Kapernick will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up
call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will
definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings
down. Just keep your protests out of sports.

Well, as I said, I haven't watched an NFL game in 4 years... but I
do recall in the last few weeks (opening day?) that they were
still doing it. Either kneeling or returning to the locker room
before the anthem was played. Just as bad, to me. Screw them.



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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

Because you STAND during the singing of the National Anthem.
It's not a debate open for discussion!

Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.





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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:45 am

Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.

Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have been rushed.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:44 am

Well, as I said, I haven't watched an NFL game in 4 years... but I
do recall in the last few weeks (opening day?) that they were
still doing it. Either kneeling or returning to the locker room
before the anthem was played. Just as bad, to me. Screw them.

Now that you mention it I do remember seeing that on the highlight reels.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 02:01 pm

Taking a knee is seen as a form of protest, and even thogh it's protesting police brutality against black people, it was done at that time of the game on purpose. It was done to get attention and stick out during a time poeple will notice it.

Well it worked. Now they have to worry about their jobs. I hope they all feel it was worth it. Between the protests and Covid-19 I'm not sure the league can survive. It's simple math. If the fans aren't there you don't get paid. At the very least there will be some serious cuts in salaries.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:45 am

Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.

Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
been rushed.

Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
replying to the person that you're replying to?



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Re: Re: NFL
By: HusTler to Gamgee on Tue Sep 29 2020 06:51 pm

Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?

Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.

I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly love the game too much. I played the game myself in Jr High and High school I'm emotionally attached. I've been watching very closely this disprespectin our flag and I must say they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lo of the "show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt Kapern will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings down. Just keep your protests out of sports.

While I was capable of playing athletic sports, eye cross dominance without proper coaching on how to deal with it held me back from doing anything
halfway decent, so I never was interested in football. Basketball was where
my attention span was. Same goes for soccer and hockey.

One of my gripes with the NFL or it's players in question are how the league rejected any attempt for players who wanted to bring attention to
non-partisan charitable causes, then all the sudden it's OK to take a knee dur ing a ceremony in the beginning of the game. If that time in the game was no big deal, they why did they strategically pick that time to protest?

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:35 pm

Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
been rushed.

Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
replying to the person that you're replying to?

Because too many users get their rocks off pointing out who the reply was to. This an open forum open to discussion to everyone. Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to Codefenix on Wed Sep 30 2020 08:50 am

Hey great for them! Did they get a win last year? 2-1 is a great start!

Yeah, they went 6-10 last season. They've been piss-poor to mediocre for years. Still entertaining to watch, for the most part :)

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:35 pm

Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
been rushed.

Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
replying to the person that you're replying to?

Because too many users get their rocks off pointing out who the
reply was to.

I don't think so, unless the poster (who changed things) gets it
wrong... Just reply to the person that you're.... replying to.

This an open forum open to discussion to everyone.

Agreed, but not sure what that has to do with anything.

Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.

No need to apologize. Just wanted to point out that you're doing
things differently than everybody else. Why do something that
actually *INCREASES* the chances of things getting confused? Just
do it the established and standard way... Cheers.


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Re: NFL
By: Codefenix to HusTler on Thu Oct 01 2020 12:13 pm

Yeah, they went 6-10 last season. They've been piss-poor to mediocre for yea Still entertaining to watch, for the most part :)

Im thinking of the Bengles season

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Thu Oct 01 2020 09:41 pm

Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.

No need to apologize. Just wanted to point out that you're doing
things differently than everybody else. Why do something that
actually *INCREASES* the chances of things getting confused? Just
do it the established and standard way... Cheers.

Ok.. I'll be more careful. That said the Jets LOST again! They are now 0-3. This is going to be a long season. The Networks force you to watch the local teams so I'm stuck watching the Jets and Giants. Ack!

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Re: Re: NFL
By: HusTler to Gamgee on Fri Oct 02 2020 08:14 am

Ok.. I'll be more careful. That said the Jets LOST again! They are now 0-3. This is going to be a long season. The Networks force you to watch the local teams so I'm stuck watching the Jets and Giants. Ack!

At least that time they got relatively close to not losing.

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to Codefenix on Thu Oct 01 2020 09:47 pm

Im thinking of the Bengles season

Who dey?

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

I live just south west of Kansas City, MO so I really like the Chiefs, although, I also like the Las Vegas Raiders, never been to Vegas or Cali,
but I've been a Raiders fan for over 20 years...sometimes I like to choose
the underdog because I sometimes feel they have a lot to prove and when they win, it makes me feel good because they overcome. Another team I like is
the Patriots, never been to New England either, but I like the team. Those three teams are my favorites.

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Re: NFL
By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Tue Oct 06 2020 04:02 pm

Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

DaiTengu

I'm a BIG Green Bay Fan. Rogers still amazes me. Last night they moved to 4-0. KC did not look like Superbowl champs last night but still got the Win. Too bad I can't watch these teams on Sunday. Well.. I can if I want to pay for it. ;-)

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Re: NFL
By: HusTler to DaiTengu on Tue Oct 06 2020 08:20 pm

I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

I'm a BIG Green Bay Fan. Rogers still amazes me. Last night they moved to 4-0.

He's doing great this year, I don't know if it's LaFeur, or if he has less distractions in his personal life.

Maybe it's a combination of the two. He and LaFleur seem to genuinely like each other.

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Re: NFL
By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:36 pm

He's doing great this year, I don't know if it's LaFeur, or if he has less distractions in his personal life.

Maybe it's a combination of the two. He and LaFleur seem to genuinely like e other.

DaiTengu

That and I think their running the ball better then last year.

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Who's winning Super Bowl LVII?

The Buffalo Bills are solid this year and are looking like favourites to me.

Surprised at how well The Dallas Cowboys are doing with their second string QB Cooper Rush. I have always had a soft spot for them.

The LA Rams are fairly mediocre. I'd be surprised if they made the playoffs.

Thoughts?

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Who's winning Super Bowl LVII?

The Buffalo Bills are solid this year and are looking like
favourites to me.

Surprised at how well The Dallas Cowboys are doing with their
second string QB Cooper Rush. I have always had a soft spot for
them.

The LA Rams are fairly mediocre. I'd be surprised if they made
the playoffs.

Thoughts?

Screw the NFL.

It's almost hockey season.



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Thoughts?

I follow college football more than pro. I did see a piece last night (actually twice) where they were advertising an NFL program and they seemed high on the LA Rams still, which is different than your analysis.

I think Miami was a contender until Tua got hurt... twice. That seemed to
take some air out of their sails for sure.


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Who's winning Super Bowl LVII?
The Buffalo Bills are solid this year and are looking like favourites to me.

If the Bills can stay healthy they have a great chance. Right now they have a ton of injuries. Fingers Crossed. :)

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Thu Oct 06 2022 07:32 pm

Screw the NFL.

It's almost hockey season.

Enjoy!

I am new to US sports being a football (soccer) follower for almost my entire existence. I have suddenly had an odd interest in the NFL over the last year or so though.

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Re: NFL
By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Fri Oct 07 2022 06:26 pm

I follow college football more than pro. I did see a piece last night (actually twice) where they were advertising an NFL program and they seemed high on the LA Rams still, which is different than your analysis.

I think Miami was a contender until Tua got hurt... twice. That seemed to take some air out of their sails for sure.

I see ESPN are still high on the Rams for some reason. I don't quite get it as they were outsiders in the playoffs last season and it was somewhat of a miracle to see them pick up the Super Bowl. I know they're favourites vs Dallas this weekend but I can foresee an upset. I hope Dak isn't playing again, he should take another week off to ensure recovery.

The Eagles are looking sharp obviously, being 4-0, so I wouldn't see past them either... they should cruise past the Cardinals.

Seems like Tua should take a few more weeks off now as that head injury could have long-term effects on him. I can see why the coach played him, given that he passed all the concussion protocols provided by the NFL and was signed off by the team doctor. It was just a big horrific seeing him throwing up gang signs after taking a massive clobbering...

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Cozmo to Andeddu on Sat Oct 08 2022 09:28 am

If the Bills can stay healthy they have a great chance. Right now they have a ton of injuries. Fingers Crossed. :)

I hope so too! If any organisation's players/fans deserve to pick up a Super Bowl trophy, it's the Bills!

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I am new to US sports being a football (soccer) follower for almost my entire existence. I have suddenly had an odd interest in the NFL over
the last year or so though.

Just curious, what NFL teeam you routing for if any?

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I see ESPN are still high on the Rams for some reason. I don't quite get it as they were outsiders in the playoffs last season and it was
somewhat of a miracle to see them pick up the Super Bowl. I know they're favourites vs Dallas this weekend but I can foresee an upset. I hope Dak isn't playing again, he should take another week off to ensure recovery.

Cooper Rush is playing awesome too, so why rush Dak is right!!

The Eagles are looking sharp obviously, being 4-0, so I wouldn't see
past them either... they should cruise past the Cardinals.

Being a Giants fan, I hope not. But you are probably right. I think eagles are a lot better than the Cardinals, but you never know what can happen on any given Sunday!!

Seems like Tua should take a few more weeks off now as that head injury could have long-term effects on him. I can see why the coach played him, given that he passed all the concussion protocols provided by the NFL
and was signed off by the team doctor. It was just a big horrific seeing him throwing up gang signs after taking a massive clobbering...

Yeah, its never really bothered me seeing guys get banged up with arms and legs, etc... But head injuries are a scary thing. I thought it was scary enough watching Daniel Jones stumble to the sidelines last year after getting clobbered, but seeing Tua's hands like that you sorta knew it was something serious..

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If the Bills can stay healthy they have a great chance. Right now they a ton of injuries. Fingers Crossed. :)

I hope so too! If any organisation's players/fans deserve to pick up a Super Bowl trophy, it's the Bills!

Yeah, Wide right still hurts. I feel they have the team this year. If injuries keep them from being that team it would suck. I say this because it's so hard to keep players for long like the old days. I'm afraid that if they don't do it this year it might not happen.

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by the team doctor. It was just a big horrific seeing him throwing up gang signs after taking a massive clobbering...

That was not his demeanor in college so that seemed a little off.


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Re: Re: NFL
By: Irish_Monk to Andeddu on Sat Oct 08 2022 08:34 pm

Just curious, what NFL teeam you routing for if any?

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Probably the Cowboys. It's about time the biggest sports franchise in the world got back to winning ways! I personally can't see it though. We'll see how they do later today.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Irish_Monk to Andeddu on Sat Oct 08 2022 08:38 pm

Cooper Rush is playing awesome too, so why rush Dak is right!!

Absolutely. It's Rush's time to shine and at 3-0 why change something that works just to bring back your big name QB? Dak wasn't exactly inspiring in the first game either so that should be taken into account also.

Being a Giants fan, I hope not. But you are probably right. I think eagles are a lot better than the Cardinals, but you never know what can happen on any given Sunday!!

I didn't get to see the game but what an awesome comeback against the Packers! Makes me wish I had gotten tickets to see the game. The Giants are having a strong season so I would see them as dark horses this time around.

Yeah, its never really bothered me seeing guys get banged up with arms and legs, etc... But head injuries are a scary thing. I thought it was scary enough watching Daniel Jones stumble to the sidelines last year after getting clobbered, but seeing Tua's hands like that you sorta knew it was something serious..

Yeah, CTE is no laughing matter so I hope the head-knock has no lasting effects. I guess injuries are a part of the game... I always found it strange that the average NFL player has a career lasting around 3 seasons when soccer players average around 15-20 seasons. It must be the injuries building up and becoming unmanageable forcing players to chuck it due to health concerns and/or a decline in performance.

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Re: Re: NFL
By: Cozmo to Andeddu on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:38 am

Yeah, Wide right still hurts. I feel they have the team this year. If injuries keep them from being that team it would suck. I say this because it's so hard to keep players for long like the old days. I'm afraid that if they don't do it this year it might not happen.

cozmo

I saw an ESPN documentary called the Four Falls of Buffalo and was gutted for Norwood and everyone associated with the Bills. They defintely deserve a Super Bowl and I would love to see that happen... it was brtual watching them go up against the greatest Dallas Cowboys team ever assembled lead by the legendary Troy Aikman. Made me feel like it was a foregone conclusion as there was no winning against THAT team.

Ah well, at least you guys are kicking Steeler ass as I type this :P.

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Re: NFL
By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Sun Oct 09 2022 09:39 am

by the team doctor. It was just a big horrific seeing him throwing up gang signs after taking a massive clobbering...

That was not his demeanor in college so that seemed a little off.

If it had been someone like Pacman Jones, none of us would have been any the wiser.

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