Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on how I can approach
this requirement:

I want to feed the available internet from room B to room A,
wirelessly.

Currently, room A is DSL/router connected to an unmanaged
switch that serves my wired devices fine. Wireless is also
sufficient. But.. the DSL is scheduled to be decomissioned.

Meanwhile, I have fibre internet installed in room B. There
really wasn't a proper way to wire fibre to room A. So, I am
left with a wireless solution to send the internet to room A.

The fibre is terminated with a Deco x50, provided by the ISP.

Sure.. I can probably expense for another Deco x50, but that
would be added cost of atleast $150 that I hoped I could avoid
if I could set up a wireless bridge with existing routers.

The Deco x50 is pretty much dumbed down and can't really be
configured beyond setting its own primary IP address and the
start-range for DHCP.

I have a sr516ac that I hoped I could connect next to the Deco
x50 in room B and send the internet via wireless bridge method
to room A.

How should the sr516ac be properly connected? Should it use its
WAN port to the Deco x50, or the LAN port? And what should the
IP address be set up as?

The Deco x50 is currently 192.168.68.1 ..and begins serving
clients at 192.168.68.51 and up.

Room A is currently served with a DSL modem, an sr360n,
configured as 192.168.1.1. I have several devices that have
static IP addresses as 192.168.1.2, .8 .11 and .44

The sr360n can "see" the sr516ac during the wireless bridge
rescan. It seems that I all I would have to do is allow the
sr360n to associate as a bridge to the sr516ac. But I am still
not sure with the IP addresses need to be and which physical
ports I need to connect the sr516ac to the Deco.

Can anyone help?
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Re: trying to bridge/link two routers wirelessly..
By: Ogg to All on Mon Apr 29 2024 07:05 pm

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on how I can approach
this requirement:

I want to feed the available internet from room B to room A,
wirelessly.

Currently, room A is DSL/router connected to an unmanaged
switch that serves my wired devices fine. Wireless is also
sufficient. But.. the DSL is scheduled to be decomissioned.

Meanwhile, I have fibre internet installed in room B. There
really wasn't a proper way to wire fibre to room A. So, I am
left with a wireless solution to send the internet to room A.

The fibre is terminated with a Deco x50, provided by the ISP.

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Re: trying to bridge/link two routers wirelessly..
By: Ogg to All on Mon Apr 29 2024 07:05 pm

I want to feed the available internet from room B to room A,
wirelessly.

First things first: do you actually want to provide wireless LAN for your devices (phones, laptops)? If so, in which room?

The easy approach actually requires non-crappy networking gear:

Step one is create a regular wireless LAN from the router you have in room B. It sounds like your ISP is giving you one of those ONT+Router combos.

In room A, set a router capable of acting as a wireless client (ie. a Mikrotik, for example). You can command this second router to connect to the first router using a common wifi link. Then you can connect any devices you want to the router in room A with a wired network.

I am not familiar with your devices, nor with any regular consumer-grade device that can do what I describe. I know for a fact it is possible with budget Mikrotik boards because I used to do this frequently.


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Re: trying to bridge/link two routers wirelessly..
By: Ogg to All on Mon Apr 29 2024 07:05 pm

sr360n to associate as a bridge to the sr516ac. But I am still
not sure with the IP addresses need to be and which physical
ports I need to connect the sr516ac to the Deco.

From what you've described, my understanding is that the x50 isn't what provides you with wireless, it's the sr516ac? What I would do in that situation is set the LAN IP of the sr516ac to a static IP in that lower 192.168.1.x
range and turn OFF its DHCP server. Then plug one of its LAN ports to the network the x50 is on. It will be an "access point" or "ethernet to wireless bridge". And you can use the other lan ports as more switch ports :). If your sr360n has the ability to be a "wireless to ethernet bridge" connecting to the sr516ac, then give it another static IP on your local network and put it in that bridging mode. That's different from client mode, which would make the "LAN" in room A on a separate network, technically, even if you were to use the same IP subnet. If you CAN'T do bridging mode and you have to be in client mode, I would recommend changing the sr360n/roomA IP subnet to something like 172.16.x.x to avoid confusion.

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Hello MRO!

** On Tuesday 30.04.24 - 08:10, MRO wrote to Ogg:

The fibre is terminated with a Deco x50, provided by the ISP.

aren't you over thinking this? can't you just use a wifi router for this issue? -+-

I *am* trying have a wifi solution, but with the equipment I've
already got.

Meanwhile.. a wired solution is looking to be ok. I just have
to manoeuver creatively around some obstacles.

FWIW, the Deco x50 is crap. For one thing, although it supports
both 2.4g and 5g bands, there is only one SSID for the device.
So.. the user can't select a specific band. It decides what is
"best" for the attempted connection. I've never had a 5g
connection with it, even while standing a few feet away from
it. The TP-Link forum is rife with complaints about this.
Infact, many of the other models of the Mesh variety have that
limitation.

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Re: trying to bridge/link two routers wirelessly..
By: Ogg to MRO on Tue Apr 30 2024 06:03 pm

Hello MRO!

** On Tuesday 30.04.24 - 08:10, MRO wrote to Ogg:

The fibre is terminated with a Deco x50, provided by the ISP.

aren't you over thinking this? can't you just use a wifi router for this issue? -+-

I *am* trying have a wifi solution, but with the equipment I've
already got.

Meanwhile.. a wired solution is looking to be ok. I just have
to manoeuver creatively around some obstacles.

FWIW, the Deco x50 is crap. For one thing, although it supports
both 2.4g and 5g bands, there is only one SSID for the device.
So.. the user can't select a specific band. It decides what is
"best" for the attempted connection. I've never had a 5g
connection with it, even while standing a few feet away from
it. The TP-Link forum is rife with complaints about this.
Infact, many of the other models of the Mesh variety have that
limitation.

The right tool for the right job. anything else will bring problems.
once you follow that rule things will improve for you.
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Hello phigan!

** On Tuesday 30.04.24 - 16:55, phigan wrote to Ogg:

From what you've described, my understanding is that the x50 isn't what provides you with wireless, it's the sr516ac?

No. The x50 is provided by the ISP, and the x50 gets the feed
from the nokia ONT via an eth connection.

So.. I'm not sure what you described would be applicable. I
thought I could still connect the sr516ac to the x50 LAN-LAN,
and disable the sr516ac DHCP after assigning it low a low IP
address that the x50 could expect within it's subnetmask. But
then I wasn't getting any internet through the sr516ac when I
connected a laptop to test it with a wired or wireless
connection to the sr516ac.

If it *did* work, then the plan was to select "wireless bridge"
at the remote sr360n since it was able to "see" the sr516ac in
the other room.

I ended up settling with a wired connection. After a total of 4
hours and 4 patch cords later (and an added $35 cost for one of
the 25ft patch cords), I have my existing network tied to the
fibre feed, full speed. 80% of the wiring run isn't pretty, but
most of that is in the back room B.


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Re: trying to bridge/link two routers wirelessly..
By: Ogg to phigan on Thu May 02 2024 06:54 pm

I ended up settling with a wired connection. After a total of 4
hours and 4 patch cords later (and an added $35 cost for one of
the 25ft patch cords), I have my existing network tied to the
fibre feed, full speed. 80% of the wiring run isn't pretty, but

dude where are you buying your ethernet cables?
you can get 25 ft for 9 bucks on amazon.
i have like 4 100ft cables i don't even use in my basement.
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Hello MRO!

dude where are you buying your ethernet cables?
you can get 25 ft for 9 bucks on amazon.
i have like 4 100ft cables i don't even use in my basement.

I didn't have time to order online. My DSL was already reduced
from 5Mbps to 2.5Mbps, and I didn't want to continue at that
low speed waiting for a shipment of cable. The hardest part,
the first half of the cable run leading up to the Deco x50 from
the ONT was already done the night before. I was able to get
the extra 25ft that I needed on my way home and have it with me
to finish the connection the next day.

I ended up getting grey (the only colour that was in stock at
the hardware store) which I didn't think would work (I was
thinking beige) but it turned out to be the best choice.

I supported local. It's all good.

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Re: trying to bridge/link two routers wirelessly..
By: Ogg to MRO on Sat May 04 2024 08:14 am

Hello MRO!

dude where are you buying your ethernet cables?
you can get 25 ft for 9 bucks on amazon.
i have like 4 100ft cables i don't even use in my basement.

I didn't have time to order online. My DSL was already reduced
from 5Mbps to 2.5Mbps, and I didn't want to continue at that
low speed waiting for a shipment of cable. The hardest part,

you don't have next day shipping? or even 2 day shipping?

I ended up getting grey (the only colour that was in stock at
the hardware store) which I didn't think would work (I was

HARDWARE STORE???

I supported local. It's all good.

you're wackadoo
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I supported local. It's all good.

you're wackadoo

Sometimes, I am willing to pay a little more if I can have a chance to look
at something in person before buying it. The issue here being that a lot
of the things I really want to look at, to make sure they are what I need,
are things that I cannot find locally.

OTOH, if I need a tool, plumbing supplies, nuts/bolts/screws, etc., I am probably going to my local hardware store. The help much more likely to know what they are talking about than at Wal-Mart or Lowes, or than someone who
is selling something on Amazon.


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Re: trying to bridge/link two
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun May 05 2024 09:14 am

OTOH, if I need a tool, plumbing supplies, nuts/bolts/screws, etc., I am probably going to my local hardware store. The help much more likely to know what they are talking about than at Wal-Mart or Lowes, or than someone who
is selling something on Amazon.

it's my experience that those people in the hardware stores can talk the talk, but they have very little experience. often times they repeat what other people have told them. it's an act.

hardware stores have OLD stock, and they are more expensive. i'd rather use
a walmart or amazon. any questions you have can be looked up on youtube.
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Re: trying to bridge/link two
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun May 05 2024 05:26 pm

it's my experience that those people in the hardware stores can talk the talk, but they have very little experience. often times they repeat what other people have told them. it's an act.

hardware stores have OLD stock, and they are more expensive. i'd rather use a walmart or amazon. any questions you have can be looked up on youtube.

You're going to the wrong hardware stores.

I've got a Kitz & Pfeil near me that always knows their shit, and has that obscure stuff that I need.

Metric screw inserts, weird nylon washers of various sizes, and more than once they've helped me work my way through stuff I was trying to do with good ideas.

I always go there for nuts & bolts, or plumbing stuff.

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Re: trying to bridge/link two
By: DaiTengu to MRO on Thu May 09 2024 11:15 am

hardware stores have OLD stock, and they are more expensive. i'd rather use a walmart or amazon. any questions you have can be looked up on youtube.

You're going to the wrong hardware stores.

I'm just going to the ones in my city. and every city i've lived in.
they're all shit.

I've got a Kitz & Pfeil

who?

near me that always knows their shit, and has that
obscure stuff that I need.

why do you need them to know their shit? all that stuff is pretty simple. around the house stuff is pretty cut and dried.

What obscure stuff do you need that a mom and pop hardware store can suit your needs?
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You're going to the wrong hardware stores.

I think so, too. I am sure there are some folks who were there that don't
know their stuff, but there are some guys who've been working in hardware
from long before Lowes moved into our area that know a lot about the stuff.

I always go there for nuts & bolts, or plumbing stuff.

Me, too. If I only need 6 screws of x size, I would rather only buy 6-8,
even if that is a little more expensive, per screw, than buy a whole box from Lowes and just have the rest of the box sit around unused forever.


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Re: trying to bridge/link two
By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Fri May 10 2024 10:32 am

You're going to the wrong hardware stores.

I think so, too. I am sure there are some folks who were there that don't know their stuff, but there are some guys who've been working in hardware from long before Lowes moved into our area that know a lot about the stuff.

they can talk the talk and bullshit around, but when it's something i know a lot about and i talk to them i see them trip up.

and like i said, all you need is youtube pretty much.
unless you are actually doing construction on your house personally.
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