Hello,
Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a drone? If so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI Phantom 3 Standard. I have used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent a place. I have gotten really nice areal videos. It was fun to operate and still is but sadly I don't get that much time with it and of course, weather has to be good.

What are your experiences?

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Re: Drone Usage
By: grasshopper to All on Mon Jun 22 2020 10:27 pm

Hello,
Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a drone? If so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI Phantom 3 Standard. I have used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent a place. I have gotten really nice areal videos. It was fun to operate and still is but sadly I don't get that much time with it and of course, weather has to be good.

What are your experiences?

I have the same drone, among some other cheaper ones (e.g. from Banggood.com). I barely use it, but when I did, I got some good vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRfKjil4zb0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLWUUV35PJI

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On 06-22-20 22:27, grasshopper wrote to All <=-

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Hello,
Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a
drone? If so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI
Phantom 3 Standard. I have used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent a place. I have gotten really nice areal videos. It was
fun to operate and still is but sadly I don't get that much time with
it and of course, weather has to be good.

I've only played with a cheap drone. It took OK video, but had some control issues that could render it unusable at times. Hoping one day to get a better drone one day. Though a big challenge is finding places to legally fly them - between the proximity of the local airport, a helipad and much of the open space being managed by Parks Victoria (where it's illegal to fly drones), there's only a few sports fields that can be used, since I haven't seen anything prohibiting drones in the local bylaws. But have to make sure they are empty, to ensure one can comply with the aviation regs.

But drones do have a lot of cool uses, when in the right hands.


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Re: Re: Drone Usage
By: Vk3jed to grasshopper on Tue Jun 23 2020 08:20 pm

I've only played with a cheap drone. It took OK video, but had some control issues that could render it unusable at times. Hoping one day to get a bett drone one day. Though a big challenge is finding places to legally fly them between the proximity of the local airport, a helipad and much of the open space being managed by Parks Victoria (where it's illegal to fly drones), there's only a few sports fields that can be used, since I haven't seen anything prohibiting drones in the local bylaws. But have to make sure they are empty, to ensure one can comply with the aviation regs.

But drones do have a lot of cool uses, when in the right hands.

... Honk if you love peace and quiet.

I've considered buying a drone. I have 5 acres of my own land, plus80 acres
of farmland behind it and 40 in front I have permission from the neighbors to walk/ hunt on. The major airports are over 20 miles away, and even the
smaller private fields are more than 8 miles. While I have space or access
to it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. I wish these were around when
I was younger.

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Re: Drone Usage
By: grasshopper to All on Mon Jun 22 2020 10:27 pm

Hello,
Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a drone? so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI Phantom 3 Standard. have used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent a place. I ha gotten really nice areal videos. It was fun to operate and still is but sadl don't get that much time with it and of course, weather has to be good.

What are your experiences?

i got a drone for christmas. i think there was something wrong with it.
i pushed the button to hover it and it would always go off to the side. couldnt calibrate it.

anyways, i threw it out. the end.
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Re: Re: Drone Usage
By: Vk3jed to grasshopper on Tue Jun 23 2020 08:20 pm

better drone one day. Though a big challenge is finding places to legally fly them - between the proximity of the local airport, a helipad and much of the open space being managed by Parks Victoria (where it's illegal to fly drones), there's only a few sports fields that can be used, since I haven't seen anything prohibiting drones in the local bylaws. But have to make sure they are empty, to ensure one can comply with the aviation regs.

Yes, that is part of the struggle is to find a place to fly. I have downloaded the Android App "AirMap" to help me with where to fly. And from where I stand there are so many overlapping Controlled Air Spaces that I basically can't fly anywhere near where my house is. :( So, that makes it a bit difficult. So, I understand your pain! :)

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On 06-23-20 07:22, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I've considered buying a drone. I have 5 acres of my own land, plus80 acres of farmland behind it and 40 in front I have permission from the neighbors to walk/ hunt on. The major airports are over 20 miles away, and even the smaller private fields are more than 8 miles. While I

Sounds like a great place to fly a drone. :)

have space or access to it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. I wish these were around when I was younger.

Haha join the club, I certainly don't have any trouble filling in my spare time, and my hobby project list seems to keep growing! :) With around 10 hours/week or more taken up with sports training, time is getting tight again. :)


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On 06-23-20 19:18, Grasshopper wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yes, that is part of the struggle is to find a place to fly. I have downloaded the Android App "AirMap" to help me with where to fly. And from where I stand there are so many overlapping Controlled Air Spaces that I basically can't fly anywhere near where my house is. :( So, that makes it a bit difficult. So, I understand your pain! :)

Actually, airspace is the easy part. There is airspace here, and the apps are great at finding free airspace. It's the parks authorities that are the biggest pain. They manage land all around here, and their website is not mobile friendly. They don't have an app or seem to link to any drone apps that I know of, so unless one is really careful, it would be easy to get a $3k fine. :/


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What are your experiences?

I don't own one...but a fellow railfan, Danny Harmon, uses
one in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who had
several, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.

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Re: Re: Drone Usage
By: Daryl Stout to grasshopper on Wed Jun 24 2020 01:47 pm

Hello Daryl,

one in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who had
several, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.

I am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!
73's,
Grasshopper (aka John Angel)

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Re: Re: Drone Usage
By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Wed Jun 24 2020 07:18 pm

On 06-23-20 07:22, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I've considered buying a drone. I have 5 acres of my own land, plus80 acres of farmland behind it and 40 in front I have permission from the neighbors to walk/ hunt on. The major airports are over 20 miles away, and even the smaller private fields are more than 8 miles. While I

Sounds like a great place to fly a drone. :)

have space or access to it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. I wish these were around when I was younger.

Haha join the club, I certainly don't have any trouble filling in my spare time, and my hobby project list seems to keep growing! :) With around 10 hours/week or more taken up with sports training, time is getting tight agai :)

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My grandmother's farm was 160 acres. 100 was farm and the other 60 was
wooded or reclaimed to forest. I loved going camping out there as well as hunting. There were spots where we could shoot our rifles out to 500 yards. The local clubs and ranges were usually limited to 200 yards. Shooting out
to 200 is not that hard but after 350 yards factors such as trajectory need
to be factored in.

For a couple of years back in the 1980's some selct cut lumber was harvested, and the loggers left some trails that we continued to maintain through the woods. I'm sure flying a drone via a camera feed would've been fun along
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John,

I am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!

I'm a Life Member of ARRL, Courage Kenny Handi-Hams, and the QCWA;
then a regular member of PCARS (Ohio), PDRA (Pennsylvania), MDARC,
(Tennessee), and BCFMCA (Canada)...plus the VE Team Liaison for the
UALR Ham Radio Club. More info is in my bio on QRZ, and in my D-Rats
shared folder. Being licensed since 1991, you'll see I've been busy
(hi hi).

I had some packet and Winlink messages I had to take care of,
after I got back from medical appointments this morning. I prefer
to do those early in the day, before the summertime thunderstorms
develop, and before it gets too hot and humid.

Daryl, WX4QZ

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Re: Amateur Radio
By: Daryl Stout to Grasshopper on Thu Jun 25 2020 12:14 pm

then a regular member of PCARS (Ohio), PDRA (Pennsylvania), MDARC, (Tennessee), and BCFMCA (Canada)...plus the VE Team Liaison for the

Yes, I use to be in 4 land. My original call-sign was KE4DFG. I lived in Memphis, TN at the time. I believe I also got my license in 1991 also! I was initially a no-code Technician. Later changed it to a regular Technician license. When trying to upgrade to general class, it appeared that the code portion for Technician wasn't recorded properly and had to take it again. Well, at that time I was practicing for 13 wpm, so 5 wpm was a piece of cake. :)

John - AC9RE

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John,

Yes, I use to be in 4 land. My original call-sign was KE4DFG. I lived
in Memphis, TN at the time. I believe I also got my license in 1991
also! I was initially a no-code Technician. Later changed it to a
regular Technician license. When trying to upgrade to general class, it appeared that the code portion for Technician wasn't recorded properly
and had to take it again. Well, at that time I was practicing for 13
wpm, so 5 wpm was a piece of cake. :)

I did try a 5 WPM CW exam before the FCC got rid of it, and failed it.
Had I filled in the blanks, I might have passed it...but, it's a moot
point now.

One local ham (who became a Silent Key long ago from a heart attack),
and his wife (she was licensed as well, and has since remarried), were
great friends. I asked him what his secret was to learning CW, and he
said "I learned all the dirty words first" (hi hi). I laughed, and said,
"Well, you can't say them on the air, but if it helps, more power to you".

One night, a club out of Dallas, was doing a CW course on the local
repeater (I copied them off of Echolink), and the first letters they
taught formed the S expletive (hi hi). I thought "I'll be damned!!".
But, when you looked at the dot and dash pattern, it made perfect sense.

However, the funniest story I heard (I might have shared this before,
but don't remember) about CW went like this.

Four guys were at a restaurant table in Annapolis, Maryland...telling
each other dirty jokes in CW. This drop dead, gorgeous, curvaceous,
female walked over to them, and sternly admonished them...saying "You
boys need to watch your language. I teach CW at the Naval Academy
across the street", and walked out!! They were as red as tomatoes...
and that's a true story!! (hi hi).

Yet now, folks are learning CW because they WANT to, and NOT because
they HAVE to...and they're discovering that CW is fun!!

Daryl, WX4QZ

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On 06-24-20 22:15, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

My grandmother's farm was 160 acres. 100 was farm and the other 60 was wooded or reclaimed to forest. I loved going camping out there as well
as hunting. There were spots where we could shoot our rifles out to
500 yards. The local clubs and ranges were usually limited to 200
yards. Shooting out to 200 is not that hard but after 350 yards
factors such as trajectory need to be factored in.

Yeah, 500 yards, nice for a shooting range. Definitely a good place to work on your aim and technique. I haven't been shooting for over 40 years myself, it just became too hard, with the townies moving out to the bush. I have toyed with the idea of going to a local gun club when they have open days, but timing hasn't worked out so far. Not that I have time for a new sport or hobby anyway! :D Or money for that matter - I'm transitioning into a more expensive phase on the track, where training and travel expenses start to mount, but that's all good. :)

For a couple of years back in the 1980's some selct cut lumber was harvested, and the loggers left some trails that we continued to
maintain through the woods. I'm sure flying a drone via a camera feed would've been fun along those trails.

Yeah, some nice footage could be had from a drone in places like that. Only way that would be doable here would be on private land, since public land of that type generally comes under Parks, and as I've said in previous messages, that's no go for flying.


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GRASSHOPPER wrote to ALL <=-

Just thought I would throw out a couple of questions. Do you own a
drone? If so, what do you use it for and how often? I have a DJI

Wife has one, but hasn't flown it for a few years now. Mainly just for fun, doing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at a tractor pull.

It's a 4k unit I bought her at Best Buy, but I don't remember the brand...

Phantom 3 Standard. I have used it only a handful of times on vacation when we rent a place. I have gotten really nice areal videos. It was
fun to operate and still is but sadly I don't get that much time with
it and of course, weather has to be good.

What are your experiences?

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VK3JED wrote to MOONDOG <=-

have space or access to it, I'm at the point I have enough hobbies. I wish these were around when I was younger.

Haha join the club, I certainly don't have any trouble filling in my
spare time, and my hobby project list seems to keep growing! :) With around 10 hours/week or more taken up with sports training, time is getting tight again. :)

Yep! Same here! Have too many interests and not nearly enough time. :-)




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GRASSHOPPER wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

one in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who had
several, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.

I am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!
73's,
Grasshopper (aka John Angel)

Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.




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On 07-03-20 11:00, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Yep! Same here! Have too many interests and not nearly enough time. :-)

Haha yep. :) I've added another 4-5 hours/week of sports training, as I've hired a strength and conditioning coach. :)


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On 07-03-20 11:02, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to GRASSHOPPER <=-

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GRASSHOPPER wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

one in his videos. I know a former ham radio operator who had
several, but he passed away suddenly just over a year ago.

I am also a fellow HAM. AC9RE. Also ARRL member!
73's,
Grasshopper (aka John Angel)

Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.

LOL another one that occupies a bit of my time. :)


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Jimmy,

Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.

Do you, Ham...take Radio...to be your lawfully wedded spouse?? <G>

You can find out with "The Triple Play" -- 3 skits in one, at https://www.theweatherwonder.com/elk.htm

Daryl, WX4QZ

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Tony,

Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.

LOL another one that occupies a bit of my time. :)

Just a wee bit?? <G>

Daryl

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Jimmy,

Yep! Same here! Have too many interests and not nearly enough time. :-)

That's the same thing with ham radio traffic nets...too many nets,
and too little time.

Back in 2006, I started a page on Echolink Nets...but several months
ago, in noting that the nets page at dstarinfo.com had quite a bit of
outdated info, I started a list of D-Star and D-Rats Nets...to go with
the Echolink Nets. Then, I added links to CQ100, DMR, D-Star HF,
Hamsphere, and recently discovered "Christian Nets".

The list is about evenly split between D-Star and Echolink Nets,
with a few D-Rats nets for good measure. You can get a copy of it at https://www.theweatherwonder.com/elk.htm -- it's the first entry on
the page. There are nearly 150 nets in that file...if that doesn't
satisfy these "net hoppers", nothing will.

It got to be such a mad rush on checkins, that I'm on the air only
for nets that I run, and a few selected other nets. If I can't run a
net due to weather, internet, or health issues, I try to get someone
else to take Net Control. But, for the others, if I don't feel like
checking into them, I don't...and I don't lose any sleep over it.

Daryl, WX4QZ

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On 07-04-20 20:19, Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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Tony,

Yet another hobby I don't have a ton of time for - LOL.

LOL another one that occupies a bit of my time. :)

Just a wee bit?? <G>

Haha, especially when I've been building a low cost SDR on a Pi. ;)


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Re: Re: Drone Usage
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to GRASSHOPPER on Fri Jul 03 2020 10:58 am

Hello Jimmy,

doing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at a tractor pull.

I didn't know they allow one to fly a drone at events like that. Interesting... I thought about doing that but I thought people would be upset at me for doing so. Plus, the people holding the event, I thought would not be happy about it either.
Did you get permission for such a thing?

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GRASSHOPPER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

doing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at a tractor pull.

I didn't know they allow one to fly a drone at events like that. Interesting... I thought about doing that but I thought people would be upset at me for doing so. Plus, the people holding the event, I thought would not be happy about it either. Did you get permission for such a thing?

One of the relatives of the promoter was doing it at a show. He is a friend
of ours, so we started doing it some too. :-)

No one complained, but we are very VERY rural - not in a "city" at all.
I think it would be frowned upon in any sort of 'big time' setting.




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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to GRASSHOPPER <=-

GRASSHOPPER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

doing some arial photography for fun, you know. Did some recording at a tractor pull.

I didn't know they allow one to fly a drone at events like that. Interesting... I thought about doing that but I thought people would be upset at me for doing so. Plus, the people holding the event, I thought would not be happy about it either. Did you get permission for such a thing?

One of the relatives of the promoter was doing it at a show. He is a friend of ours, so we started doing it some too. :-)

I've been playing around with a Mavic Mini and doing a lot of reading, especially the rules around what is considered "hobby" versus "commercial".

Be careful flying around groups, even with permission. Read up on the
FAA Part 107 rules and the commercial license requirements and what you
can do with it.

Flying is a blast but there are jerks that will try to tell you that you
are breaking the law. The best defense is to be informed!

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Be careful flying around groups, even with permission. Read up on the
FAA Part 107 rules and the commercial license requirements and what you can do with it.

Flying is a blast but there are jerks that will try to tell you that
you are breaking the law. The best defense is to be informed!

Good advice for sure!!!


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