• Long messages

    From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to All on Saturday, February 05, 2022 17:28:24
    Hi, All!

    I'm getting the ocassional message that squish won't toss (Netmail). The log says "message too long, renamed to *.lng". Is there any solution, or any way to break up these big messages? Windows 11, 32bit here. Thanks!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Fred Riccio@1:132/174 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, February 06, 2022 05:45:37
    Hello Dallas!

    05 Feb 22 17:28, Dallas Hinton wrote to All:

    Hi, All!

    I'm getting the ocassional message that squish won't toss (Netmail).
    The log says "message too long, renamed to *.lng". Is there any solution, or any way to break up these big messages? Windows 11,
    32bit here. Thanks!

    Dallas, I wrote a quick little utility that takes those long messages and splits them up into manageable pieces. I'm not sure if it will run on Win11 or not. Do you want to give it a try?

    Is your NetMail in *.MSG or Squish format?

    --- Msged/NT 6.0.1
    * Origin: Somewhere in New Hampshire's White Mountains (1:132/174)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, February 06, 2022 12:35:35
    Dallas wrote (2022-02-05):

    Hi, All!

    I'm getting the ocassional message that squish won't toss (Netmail). The log says "message too long, renamed to *.lng". Is there any solution, or any way to break up these big messages? Windows 11, 32bit here. Thanks!

    How long are these messages?

    64K, >256K?

    Which Squish version (for DOS or Windows)?

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, February 06, 2022 13:00:26
    Oli wrote (2022-02-06):

    How long are these messages?

    64K, >256K?

    That was JamNNTP's smartquote feature... should be:

    How long are these messages? >64K, >256K?

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, February 06, 2022 06:39:46
    On 2022 Feb 05 17:28:24, you wrote to All:

    I'm getting the ocassional message that squish won't toss (Netmail).
    The log says "message too long, renamed to *.lng". Is there any
    solution, or any way to break up these big messages? Windows 11, 32bit here. Thanks!

    there is/was a tool that could split/unsplit long messages in PKTs before the tosser handled them... i do not know its status, any more...

    PSRT_14.ZIP 269257 Apr-27-1994
    =============================================
    PacketSorter v1.4 bug fixes & new features
    FidoNet inbound packet processor defragments
    packets, speeds up tossing on SQUISH and JAM
    - split large messages according to FSC-0047
    - sort messages by subject and/or time
    - remove garbage from 'bad' packets
    - split large packets to a more handy size
    - unsplit large messages back to orign. size
    - fast & highly configurable
    - works with any echomail tosser
    - runs with both OS/2 and DOS in 32 bit mode
    - quick installation for Squish & CrossPoint
    - quick installation for FastEcho & IMail

    http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/mailer/PSRT_14.ZIP


    FWIW: i would only use it manually on your long message containing packets to split those messages into a new pkt which your squish should then be able to consume... i would do this only on those specific packets so that it affects only your system and not others connected to you... then place the new packet where your squish can get to it and you should now get your previously long netmail as multiple messages identified with the ^ASPLIT protocol from the old FSC-0047.001 proposal http://ftsc.org/docs/fsc-0047.001 ...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Fred Riccio on Sunday, February 06, 2022 07:30:42
    On 2022 Feb 06 05:45:36, you wrote to Dallas Hinton:

    I'm getting the ocassional message that squish won't toss (Netmail).
    The log says "message too long, renamed to *.lng". Is there any
    solution, or any way to break up these big messages? Windows 11,
    32bit here. Thanks!

    Dallas, I wrote a quick little utility that takes those long messages
    and splits them up into manageable pieces. I'm not sure if it will
    run on Win11 or not. Do you want to give it a try?

    Is your NetMail in *.MSG or Squish format?

    he needs this to work at the PKT level so his tosser can then handle them afterward...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... Learn from your parent's mistakes: Use Birth Control!
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  • From Fred Riccio@1:132/174 to mark lewis on Sunday, February 06, 2022 10:13:44
    Hello mark!

    06 Feb 22 07:30, mark lewis wrote to Fred Riccio:


    Is your NetMail in *.MSG or Squish format?

    he needs this to work at the PKT level so his tosser can then handle
    them afterward...


    After I hit the SEND button, I realised that was a stupid question. The utility does take the packet with the long message (renamed by squish to *.lng) as input, and creates a .pkt (with the long message split) as output so squish can give it another try. Message maximum size and input/output directories are all configurable by the user and stored in the registry.


    Also after I wrote my last message, I dug out the program and tried it out under win10. No luck. It was written in VB4 in 2006, and requires vbrun300.dll to operate. regsvr32 complains that it is not a 32 or 64 bit .DLL and refuses to register it. Putting the DLL in the directory with the .Exe doesn't work either. It runs perfectly on older OS.

    --- Msged/NT 6.0.1
    * Origin: Somewhere in New Hampshire's White Mountains (1:132/174)
  • From Fred Riccio@1:132/174 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, February 06, 2022 11:39:57
    Hello Dallas!

    05 Feb 22 17:28, Dallas Hinton wrote to All:

    Hi, All!

    I'm getting the ocassional message that squish won't toss (Netmail).
    The log says "message too long, renamed to *.lng". Is there any solution, or any way to break up these big messages? Windows 11,
    32bit here. Thanks!


    One more thought...

    Are you using the BUFFERS keyword in your squish.cfg or do you just let them default? See Squish.Doc pages 58 & 59.

    Switching to SQ386 may help too.

    --- Msged/NT 6.0.1
    * Origin: Somewhere in New Hampshire's White Mountains (1:132/174)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Fred Riccio on Sunday, February 06, 2022 09:22:56
    Hi, Fred -- on Feb 06 2022 at 05:45, you wrote:

    Dallas, I wrote a quick little utility that takes those long
    messages and splits them up into manageable pieces. I'm not sure
    if it will run on Win11 or not. Do you want to give it a try?

    I'd be delighted to try it, thanks!!

    Is your NetMail in *.MSG or Squish format?

    Netmail is *.msg, but the .lng messages never get tossed.

    I'm at dallas.hinton @ gmail.com -- many thanks!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Oli on Sunday, February 06, 2022 09:49:45
    Hi, Oli -- on Feb 06 2022 at 12:35, you wrote:


    How long are these messages?

    64K, >256K?

    Upwards of 100K -- maybe 125K

    Which Squish version (for DOS or Windows)?

    Using squish 32 bit -- sq386b.exe


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to mark lewis on Sunday, February 06, 2022 09:53:52
    Hi, mark -- on Feb 06 2022 at 06:39, you wrote:

    there is/was a tool that could split/unsplit long messages in PKTs
    before the tosser handled them... i do not know its status, any
    more...

    PSRT_14.ZIP 269257 Apr-27-1994

    Perfect, thanks!! It's only netmail status reports from Nick that seem to be the problem. Apparently d'bridge won't limit outgoing message sizes so I have to cope! :-)

    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Fred Riccio on Sunday, February 06, 2022 09:55:19
    Hi, Fred -- on Feb 06 2022 at 10:13, you wrote:

    Also after I wrote my last message, I dug out the program and tried
    it out under win10. No luck. It was written in VB4 in 2006, and

    Ah well -- I'll try packetsort -- thanks!!



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Fred Riccio on Sunday, February 06, 2022 09:55:52
    Hi, Fred -- on Feb 06 2022 at 11:39, you wrote:

    Are you using the BUFFERS keyword in your squish.cfg or do you just
    let them default? See Squish.Doc pages 58 & 59.

    Yes, buffers large

    Switching to SQ386 may help too.

    Already doing that. :-) But it never hurts to check!




    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to mark lewis on Sunday, February 06, 2022 10:12:18
    Hi, mark -- on Feb 06 2022 at 06:39, you wrote:

    PSRT_14.ZIP 269257 Apr-27-1994


    Unfortunately, it won't run under w11 32bit. Good try, though!



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Fred Riccio@1:132/174 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, February 06, 2022 13:14:46
    Hello Dallas!

    06 Feb 22 09:49, Dallas Hinton wrote to Oli:


    How long are these messages?

    Upwards of 100K -- maybe 125K

    Using squish 32 bit -- sq386b.exe

    According to the docs, SQ386 with BUFFERS LARGE should be able to handle a 256K message all by itself. Can your message reader/editor handle that?

    --- Msged/NT 6.0.1
    * Origin: Somewhere in New Hampshire's White Mountains (1:132/174)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Fred Riccio on Sunday, February 06, 2022 11:36:44
    Hi, Fred -- on Feb 06 2022 at 13:14, you wrote:


    According to the docs, SQ386 with BUFFERS LARGE should be able to
    handle a 256K message all by itself. Can your message
    reader/editor handle that?

    Yup -- the change to large seems to have solved things - at least for the current set of lng files I've saved. Thanks.

    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)
  • From Fred Riccio@1:132/174 to Dallas Hinton on Sunday, February 06, 2022 15:47:38
    Hello Dallas!

    06 Feb 22 11:36, Dallas Hinton wrote to Fred Riccio:

    Yup -- the change to large seems to have solved things - at least for
    the current set of lng files I've saved. Thanks.


    +1 for RTFM :)

    --- Msged/NT 6.0.1
    * Origin: Somewhere in New Hampshire's White Mountains (1:132/174)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Fred Riccio on Sunday, February 06, 2022 14:26:26
    Hi, Fred -- on Feb 06 2022 at 15:47, you wrote:


    +1 for RTFM :)

    ++1 for understanding it! :-)


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, CANADA (1:153/7715)