• Free Stuff

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 12:14:44
    Looking for free stuff??

    Look no further than the Biden admin's new "free federal subsidy of up to $30 per month in broadband access."

    People like the internet. Will people vote against the "free internet guy?"

    I like the part where Biden said "Internet is a necessity." That's not even true at all. Electricity and oil are necessities; where's muh free electricity and oil?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 09:03:48
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    Looking for free stuff??

    Look no further than the Biden admin's new "free federal subsidy of up
    to $30 per month in broadband access."

    People like the internet. Will people vote against the "free internet guy?"

    I think that many people (especially the ones who actually vote) understand that nothing is free and if the gov't provides it, it will cost more than if the free-market provides it.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 14:05:55
    People like the internet. Will people vote against the "free internet guy?"

    I think that many people (especially the ones who actually vote) understand that nothing is free and if the gov't provides it, it will
    cost more than if the free-market provides it.

    You know it!

    I wanted to jump on it, because like anyone else I'll take a Democrat handout when it gets passed around, but I only pay $25 a month for broadband, and I'm on a grandfathered plan; new subscribers have to pay $80 for what I have. When a sensible Republican decides to scrap the plan then I'd end up being an $80/month customer, with Biden to thank.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 16:42:00
    I like the part where Biden said "Internet is a necessity." That's not even true at all. Electricity and oil are necessities; where's muh free electricity
    and oil?

    The internet is a necessity. Otherwise, the disinformation board would not have a job. :)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, May 12, 2022 04:14:54
    Hello Aaron,

    Looking for free stuff??

    Look no further than the Biden admin's new "free federal subsidy of up to $30 per month in broadband access."

    Used to be up to $50 per month until Republicans slashed it to $30.

    But it is still up to $75 per month on Native American reservations.

    People like the internet. Will people vote against the "free internet guy?"

    The federal subsidy program has been around for a while. And we all
    know who the American people voted for as their POTUS in 2020.

    I like the part where Biden said "Internet is a necessity." That's not even
    true at all. Electricity and oil are necessities; where's muh free electricity and oil?

    In today's modern world the internet truly is a necessity.

    --Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:25:54
    In today's modern world the internet truly is a necessity.

    But not to those who still refuse to join the rest of us in the modern world. Those that rely on one single news outlet -- such as Fox News.



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  • From Tom Kisner to Björn Felten on Thursday, May 12, 2022 14:19:25
    Re: Free Stuff
    By: Björn Felten to Lee Lofaso on Thu May 12 2022 10:25 am

    In today's modern world the internet truly is a necessity.

    But not to those who still refuse to join the rest of us in the modern world. Those that rely on one single news outlet -- such as Fox News.

    I mean, there aren't too terribly many people who are not on the internet at all - it's difficult to get a job, etc., and Covid certainly drove even more reliance on the internet than previously. Having no internet access would perpetuate proverty - This has been long understood and efforts been made to subsidize and expand access for decades now.

    Your example is fun, but I don't think very accurate. After all, those that rely on news from single outlet such as Fox News are the ones that are banned from from posting on and using parts of the internet. President Trump was even banned from Spotify, lest he listen to some music that works him up I suppose.
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Tom Kisner on Saturday, May 14, 2022 09:55:45
    Hello Tom,

    In today's modern world the internet truly is a necessity.

    But not to those who still refuse to join the rest of us in the modern
    world. Those that rely on one single news outlet -- such as Fox News.

    I mean, there aren't too terribly many people who are not on the internet at
    all - it's difficult to get a job, etc., and Covid certainly drove even more reliance on the internet than previously.

    Unemployment is at an all-time low. People who are hired quit before
    showing up in order to take another job that pays better. The minimum
    wage is a joke, with only a small handful of states (such as Louisiana) refusing to set a minimum wage at all (defaulting to the federal rate
    of $7.25/hour). Even US Senator Bernie Sanders' suggestion of raising
    the federally mandated minimum wage to $15/hour is a joke, with many
    states already having raised their own minimum wages higher than that.

    Having no internet access would perpetuate proverty -

    How so? People did just fine, even before the age of computers and
    the internet. So why would people suffer if the internet implodes?

    This has been long understood and efforts been made to subsidize and expand
    access for decades now.

    How is that a bad thing? More is better, the way most folks see it.
    Especially when somebody else is paying.

    Your example is fun, but I don't think very accurate.

    Just because Fox News says something does not make it true.

    After all, those that rely on news from single outlet such as Fox News are the ones that are banned from from posting on and using parts of the internet.

    Twitter permanently banned Donald Trump. But did not stop there.
    Others have also been permanently banned. Such as David Duke. These
    people are scum of the earth, according to Twitter. Let them find
    another home to espouse their hatred. Twitter does not want them.
    Nor does Twitter need them.

    President Trump was even banned from Spotify, lest he listen to some music that works him up I suppose.

    That's the beauty of the First Amendment. The Congress shall make
    no law ... Those are the first six words of the amendment. Those who
    wrote it knew what they were doing.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Saturday, May 14, 2022 09:55:54
    Hello Björn,

    In today's modern world the internet truly is a necessity.

    But not to those who still refuse to join the rest of us in the modern world. Those that rely on one single news outlet -- such as Fox News.

    True. But all jokes aside, the internet is doomed to failure.
    Why the web will implode is explained by brain scientist Jeff
    Stibel in his brilliant book, "Breakpoint" (2013) - which I
    highly recommend to all who may have an interest in this subject.
    He is also the author of "Wired for Thought: How the Brain Is
    Shaping the Future of the Internet" (2009).

    I have these books on my bookshelf. Both are a treasure.

    How does the brain predict the collapse of the web?

    What can reindeer teach us about networks?

    How do ants use internet technology?

    Why do sea squirt eat their brains to survive?

    For answers to these questions, and more, read Stibel's words
    for understanding. Not found anywhere on Fox News.

    --Lee

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