• Ham Radio Traffic & More

    From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Wednesday, March 16, 2022 11:29:00
    George,


    So the same as a cellphone, just not lesser chance of anyone picking
    up?

    If one has a scanner, they can follow the communications. The only things permitted to be encrypted on amateur radio are telecommands for the amateur radio satellites. You don't want some joker issuing a command to bring
    those expensive things crashing to the ground.

    He explainmed, as you have, too, that ni any disaster/emergency,
    there's a fixed order of priority demand on Hamn operators & they
    can't contract that oput privately. (I hoped to use them for the
    sharing of information (medical/breathing status of relatives of our clients in disaster zones, or if our area got hit by a disaster)

    Ham Radio is done "without pecuniary interest"...that's why they also
    term it as "amateur radio". Ham radio operators can inform other ham
    radio operators on a "swap/traders net" of amateur radio related gear
    that they want to buy, sell, or trade...provided "such activity is not conducted on a regular basis" (i.e. every day). I used to run such a
    net, and while I had no problem with folks listing the same few items
    week after week, I did have a problem with those who seemingly were
    swapping out a list of items.

    I even had a dream one night (not sure of what I ate before going
    to bed <G>), but that I was contacted by the FCC, wanting information
    on a certain ham radio operator violating Part 97.113.A.3 (which is
    the part I noted above). So, I provided them the logs, and within 2
    weeks, there was a story that "An Arkansas ham radio operator is hit
    with a huge fine for violating Part 97.113.A.3". I said "I wished
    that would come to pass".

    This ham said "You're accusing me of violating the rules". I replied
    "I'm not accusing you of anything. But, if the shoe fits, wear it".

    That reminds me of a joke where these folks were in this remote
    country, and were told by the tribal chief that there is a deadly
    creature called the Foo Bird. It was always "looking for targets"
    to bomb with its poop, and that if you get "dumped on", if you wipe
    it off, you will drop dead.

    Well, this one guy thought that was a bunch of crap (pun intended).
    Yet, the next day, they were out walking, and the doubter got bombed
    by the bird. He started wiping it off, ignoring the warnings of the
    tribal leader. Well, as soon as he got the poop off of him, he fell
    over, dead.

    That proves, "If the Foo $h!+$, Wear It". <G>

    So you have a portable Ham unit that has enough broadcasting power to reach the next county? (but only if there are operators near their own devices, eh?)

    I used to have a handi-talkie (HT), and I was able to reach a local
    repeater in the Orlando area (where I was for that convention). Most
    big cities have several ham radio repeaters on different bands and
    frequencies.

    I would hope so! That dshould be the case in 'most anything!

    I'm no stranger to handling emergency traffic, but I'd rather not have
    to.

    Traffic rules? Not if I have a person in the back seat bleeding out all over my brand new leather seats! (J/King, this is only about their bleeding out, not my material crap)

    There are 4 types of "Traffic" related to amateur radio.

    1) EMERGENCY - Life And Death Urgency to those involved right now (vehicle wreck, tornado, flash flood, fire/explosion, physical assault, or other calamity). This traffic is handled FIRST...and all other traffic is
    SUSPENDED when this is being handled.

    2) PRIORITY - Serious, but not to the level of emergency. This can be for things like "Significant Weather Advisories". This is handled SECOND.

    3) HEALTH AND WELFARE - Information related to the health and welfare of
    an individual, in or out of a disaster area. This is handled THIRD.

    4) ROUTINE - This is 99.99% of all amateur radio traffic, and this is
    handled LAST.

    I've had my high speed damngerous ridee already -- with a stock car racer's custom builr engine in a Camaro, through the BC Frader Canyon
    -- miles of hairpin curves with one side of your road ending in a mile-deep drop off down to the rocks below.

    Watch that first step!! It's a lulu!! <G>

    Part of my big adventure sat age 17!

    I would've crapped my pants. :P

    That's a normal reaction. Your adrenaline (fight, flight, or {breed} response hormone) kicked in & using a radio doesn't do much to flush
    it out of your blood.

    I guess being a Net Control operator prepared me for this. I was running
    a traffic net one time, and we got a report of this guy driving his car erratically, forcing other vehicles off the road (one had a new mother
    with her newborn baby). Several hams took it upon themselves to box this
    guy in (law enforcement had been notified of what was going on). It turns
    out this driver had a long rap sheet, and was wanted by the police. Yet,
    you don't know if the individual has a gun, as they will kill you if you
    corner them.

    You couldn't gonefor a flat out run around a few blocks to calm down &
    be back to normal more quickly.

    I didn't suffer for it, per se...but it was very traumatic, emotionally; especially afterwards, when I realized what I had just gone through.

    Nuts. Ego got in the way. ("Don't you DARE tell me what to do"); of course perhaps the driver could've been more diplomatic in his
    request.

    Well, we had no trouble the first 3 days of the convention, and that
    was my final statement in the jury trial...adding "I'm siding with the
    bus driver...I see no reason why I should change my stance now".

    But even if the driver said, "Hey, *******, move!" that's no legal
    basis to respond with a punch to the face.

    Exactly.

    Not to me. I'm married, & not stupid. I knowthe real beer ads should
    mix in some shots of old homeless drunks lazed on the sidewalk,
    covered in their own vomit after ingesting the a case or two of the product.

    Like the commercial saying "It doesn't get any better than this". One
    pastor said "That's true -- it's all downhill from here". :P

    Jesus never said he'sd ultimately turn againsy him -- only a three-time
    betrayal, which implies he knew Peter would repent of it.

    Judas was the one who turned against Him.

    Where does it say Peter requested to be crucified upside down?

    That's tradition...it's not noted in the Scriptures. Except for the
    Apostle John, who died of natural causes, all the others were martyred,
    and died horrible deaths.

    Is that what it actually says above?

    Yep.

    Find an oblong piece of wood. Puit it in your living room. Walk
    around it as often as you like & you can honestly tell people, "I
    walked around the block x times this morning."

    For that matter, get a concrete block, and do the same thing. <G>

    If it's sunny, you may want a large sombrero first.

    That's true...I can burn in as little as 10 minutes.

    Lots of decent kids, still.

    There may be...I sure haven't seen them.

    True story (Google image search for it) Their welcome billboard says
    "New York City is big, but we're Biggar."

    In this case, size does matter. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757 to Daryl Stout on Sunday, March 27, 2022 00:16:40
    That proves, "If the Foo $h!+$, Wear It". <G>

    Classic! I first heard/colected that jokle back in '95, from the FUNNY echo, posted by a guy Im' friends with to this day -- he's in New Zealand -- we chat online & send each other funnies regularly. . .

    I'm no stranger to handling emergency traffic, but I'd rather not have
    to.

    I couldnot tale over & diretc traffic in an emergency -- never having driven, I dno't know the rights of wya rules, except the one: The 6'8" well-muscled bearded guy with dual gun racks n his truck, eaxgh with a very expensive, double barrel shotgun, in the guiant 4X4 truck with a bumper sticker that says,"Guns don't kill people -- _I_ kill people!" always has the right of way.

    Not a lot of this in Canada.. .

    Like the commercial saying "It doesn't get any better than this". One
    pastor said "That's true -- it's all downhill from here". :P

    Yup, I've reached the top, & I'm over the hill, which is great - it's a downhill trip the rest of the way!

    Jesus never said he'sd ultimately turn againsy him -- only a three-time
    betrayal, which implies he knew Peter would repent of it.
    Judas was the one who turned against Him.

    Of course, Jesus had to cajole Judas to play the prophecied part, but Judas turned his heart to it for real (gladly taking the betrayal cash, along with the disciples' funds)

    All happened as it was supposed to.

    Where does it say Peter requested to be crucified upside down?
    That's tradition...it's not noted in the Scriptures. Except for the
    Apostle John, who died of natural causes, all the others were martyred,
    and died horrible deaths.

    I knew that but I thought it was Stephen who wascrucified upside-down.

    Find an oblong piece of wood. Put it in your living room. Walk
    around it as often as you like & you can honestly tell people, "I
    walked around the block x times this morning."
    For that matter, get a concrete block, and do the same thing. <G>

    That's heavier to move around.

    Lots of decent kids, still.
    There may be...I sure haven't seen them.

    Location, location,. location.

    True story (Google image search for it) Their welcome billboard says
    "New York City is big, but we're Biggar."
    In this case, size does matter. <G>

    A Canadiamn comedy music group, The Arrogant Worms, wrote a new anthem for Canadam, called "Canada's Really Big" including the lyric: "It's not what you do ewith it; it's the size that counts"

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Tuesday, March 29, 2022 06:11:06
    CP wrote --

    I knew that but I thought it was Stephen who wascrucified upside-down.

    Stephen was not an apostle but early convert who was stoned to death.
    The first martyr.
    Joe
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Wednesday, March 30, 2022 02:18:00
    George,

    That proves, "If the Foo $h!+$, Wear It". <G>

    Classic! I first heard/colected that jokle back in '95, from the FUNNY echo, posted by a guy Im' friends with to this day -- he's in New
    Zealand -- we chat online & send each other funnies regularly. . .

    The beauty of puns is in the groan of the recipients.

    I couldnot tale over & diretc traffic in an emergency -- never having driven, I dno't know the rights of wya rules, except the one: The 6'8" well-muscled bearded guy with dual gun racks n his truck, eaxgh with a very expensive, double barrel shotgun, in the guiant 4X4 truck with a bumper sticker that says,"Guns don't kill people -- _I_ kill people!" always has the right of way.

    That's like the one where the woman who was behind a daydreaming driver.
    The woman ended up missing the traffic light, and had to sit and wait for another light cycle. She started cussing, flipping the other driver off,
    and she is immediately told by a cop "Step out of the car, please"...as
    she's arrested.

    A few hours later, she's released, with an apology from the officer.
    He noted "With your behavior toward that other driver, despite having
    bumper stickers on your car saying 'Follow Me To Church', I thought
    you had stolen the car". <G>

    Yup, I've reached the top, & I'm over the hill, which is great - it's a
    downhill trip the rest of the way!

    As the late Bobby Bowden noted, "After retirement, there's only one big
    event left".

    Of course, Jesus had to cajole Judas to play the prophecied part, but Judas turned his heart to it for real (gladly taking the betrayal
    cash, along with the disciples' funds)

    And, he betrayed Him with a kiss.

    All happened as it was supposed to.

    Yep.

    I knew that but I thought it was Stephen who was crucified upside-down.

    No, Stephen was stoned to death...and not by smoking weed or heavy
    drinking. :P

    For that matter, get a concrete block, and do the same thing. <G>

    That's heavier to move around.

    No pain, no gain. <G>

    A Canadiamn comedy music group, The Arrogant Worms, wrote a new anthem
    for Canadam, called "Canada's Really Big" including the lyric: "It's
    not what you do with it; it's the size that counts"

    They have a point.

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757 to Daryl Stout on Friday, April 01, 2022 08:54:42
    The beauty of puns is in the groan of the recipients.

    Yup. I try for the best groans, not the "ho hum, not you again" ones. . .

    That's like the one where the woman who was behind a daydreaming driver.
    The woman ended up missing the traffic light, and had to sit and wait for another light cycle. She started cussing, flipping the other driver off,
    and she is immediately told by a cop "Step out of the car, please"...as
    she's arrested.
    A few hours later, she's released, with an apology from the officer.
    He noted "With your behavior toward that other driver, despite having
    bumper stickers on your car saying 'Follow Me To Church', I thought
    you had stolen the car". <G>

    A cop member of my old church told that one from up front, tyo the congregation. Food for thought, indeed. Be who you're supposed to be, don't just talk the talk.

    As the late Bobby Bowden noted, "After retirement, there's only one big
    event left".

    Yuppers.

    My line, when the subject of aging comes up is 'getting old beats the alternative."

    Womeb usually say, "I'd rather stay young."; I say, "That's not the alternative!" & look at them until they get that "Aha!" moment.


    A Canadian comedy music group, The Arrogant Worms, wrote a new anthem
    for Canada, called "Canada's Really Big" including the lyric: "It's
    not what you do with it; it's the size that counts"
    They have a point.

    Look it up for a laugh. . . :)

    Another kind of pun is the shaggy dog story. . .

    Erik was getting on in life. Despite his rapidly failing eyesight he wants to lead one more raid on England and gets his wife's blessing. At the dockside before he sets sail he asks her if there's anything she wants him to bring back?

    'Yes' she says 'the English houses all have stainles steel sinks, I'd love one of those!'

    'No problem my love, I'll be back in a month, with your stainless steel sink!'

    Off they sail and soon Erik is reliving his youth, pillaging and fighting, helped by the younger men that have to point him in the right direction every so often. Finally the day comes when their long ship is full of treasure and Erik decides its time to go home. One of his men asks Erik

    'Did you get what you're wife asked for... stainless steel something or other?'... 'sink!' says another viking 'it's made of shiny metal and she'll want it to put water in to wash the dishes!'

    'No I forgot! Thanks for reminding me! There's some houses being built over there, I'll be able to grab one from there. I'll only be a few minutes, you lot get ready to cast off!'

    Off Erik goes and looks in vain for a sink. Finally he spots something that might be a sink resting against a pile of bricks. It's made from shiny metal and looks like it could hold water. He grabs it and gets back on the ship glad to be going home after his successful raid.

    Eventually they reach their home port and there to greet him is his wife... 'well, did you get my sink!?'
    'Off course I did my love... here it is!'
    'What the he'll are you giving me that for? That's not a sink, that's one of those things builders use for carrying bricks you old fool!'

    Any way, it just goes to show you the old saying is true, 'A hod's as good as a sink to a blind Norse!'


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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to DARYL STOUT on Saturday, April 02, 2022 08:32:10
    Daryl wrote --

    ... Some people have more problems than an arithmetic book.

    ++Swipe++
    Joe


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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Saturday, April 02, 2022 09:09:52
    CP wrote --

    Any way, it just goes to show you the old saying is true, 'A hod's as good as a sink to a blind Norse!'

    GROANNNNN
    Joe


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