I've been informed Janis' system is down for a while.

Fidoweb takes care of that.

\%/@rd

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I've been informed Janis' system is down for a while.

I've got it back up - somewhat.. more to go though.

Fidoweb takes care of that.

Thank you for that information, very helpful as usual.

I'll probably take it all back down shortly.

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Fidoweb takes care of that.

Thank you for that information, very helpful as usual.

It is. In the Fidoweb it doesn't matter if a node is unavailable, echomail will flow ... RC33 is down at the moment, echomail flows. My system will go down for a couple of hours Thursday due to a planned power outage ... echomail will continue to flow ...

I'll probably take it all back down shortly.

What goes up must come down?

\%/@rd

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On 1/12/2021 08:27, Ward Dossche : Janis Kracht wrote:

I'll probably take it all back down shortly.

What goes up must come down?

What will go up a chimney down, but won't go down a chimney up?

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I'll probably take it all back down shortly.

What goes up must come down?

What will go up a chimney down, but won't go down a chimney up?

Santa Clause ?

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On 1/12/2021 19:22, Ward Dossche : David Drummond wrote:

I'll probably take it all back down shortly.

What goes up must come down?

What will go up a chimney down, but won't go down a chimney up?

Santa Clause ?

If he went down feet first I don't think it would get caught up.

The official answer was "an umbrella".

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Hallo Ward!

30 Nov 21 23:27, Ward Dossche schrieb an Janis Kracht:

Fidoweb takes care of that.

Thank you for that information, very helpful as usual.

It is. In the Fidoweb it doesn't matter if a node is unavailable, echomail will flow ... RC33 is down at the moment, echomail flows. My system will go down for a couple of hours Thursday due to a planned power outage ... echomail will continue to flow ...

If you take a vps server even it's not so expensive anymore you have a,
uptime of 99,99% by the datacenter.
with windows 7 and a good firewall your up and running.

I'll probably take it all back down shortly.

What goes up must come down?

I think at your age it's more down than up mate. :-)

Greetings,
Bart Verhaeghe

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Bart,

If you take a vps server even it's not so expensive anymore you have a, uptime of 99,99% by the datacenter.
with windows 7 and a good firewall your up and running.

As always, you're missing the point. Fidonet is a hobby, the fun is to make it work with what you have ... not just throwing some money at as several here (incl. yourself) have done.

I think at your age it's more down than up mate. :-)

Age is a state of mind...

\%/@rd

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Hallo Ward!

14 Dec 21 11:50, Ward Dossche schrieb an Bart Verhaeghe:

Bart,

If you take a vps server even it's not so expensive anymore you have a,
uptime of 99,99% by the datacenter.
with windows 7 and a good firewall your up and running.

As always, you're missing the point. Fidonet is a hobby, the fun is to make it work with what you have ... not just throwing some money at as several here (incl. yourself) have done.

Yes it's a hobby but as I have my equipment on site it's a small effort to, put a windows 7 online with a firewall.
As the internet connection is already there and the power cost is less than, you would pay in private situation.

You could ask Steven he also did the same before he quit fido.
His strawberry pi was running in a datacenter more than en of for fido mate.
Usage : 5 watt 0,096 kWh X 8760 (hours) = 35,04 kWh for 1 year.

I think at your age it's more down than up mate. :-)

Age is a state of mind...

and soul.

Greetings,
Bart Verhaeghe

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On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:50:09 +0100
"Ward Dossche" <ward.dossche@2:292/854> wrote:

Bart,

If you take a vps server even it's not so expensive anymore you
have a, uptime of 99,99% by the datacenter.
with windows 7 and a good firewall your up and running.

As always, you're missing the point. Fidonet is a hobby, the fun is
to make it work with what you have ... not just throwing some money
at as several here (incl. yourself) have done.

I don't think $70 a year is unreasonable for not having much downtown,
no failed hardware to replace, no power to pay for, having everything
backed up by UPS, etc. It let's me run a BBS without having to worry
about opening my own server up. I actually have 2 computers under my
desk plus my work laptop, I really don't want or need another.

Having my BBS on a VPS is just nice and easy, keeps it separate from my personal stuff. At $70 - it'd be hard to replace a hard drive,
motherboard, or memory module for that.
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Ward Dossche wrote to Bart Verhaeghe <=-

As always, you're missing the point. Fidonet is a hobby, the fun is to make it work with what you have ... not just throwing some money at as several here (incl. yourself) have done.

I've made a point of running my BBS since 1991 on cast-off crap that my company had no use for. Still am, to this day. :)


... What context would look right?
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I've made a point of running my BBS since 1991 on cast-off crap that my company had no use for. Still am, to this day. :)

Same here... until I think 2016. Breakdowns became too frequent and no replacement-crap anymore.

Bought new motherboard, new drivers, wouldn't handle XP anymore, switched to MS7 ... that's where we are. 5 years with no hardware fails ... it's coming, I feel it coming ...

\%/@rd

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Hi Ward,

On 2021-12-15 16:23:52, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

I've made a point of running my BBS since 1991 on cast-off crap that
my company had no use for. Still am, to this day. :)

Same here... until I think 2016. Breakdowns became too frequent and no replacement-crap anymore.

Bought new motherboard, new drivers, wouldn't handle XP anymore, switched to MS7 ... that's where we are. 5 years with no hardware fails ... it's coming, I feel it coming ...

You were offline today for a while...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred,

You were offline today for a while...

Yes ... that was on purpose ...

Is there an issue?

\%/@rd

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"Ward Dossche" <ward.dossche@2:292/854> wrote:

I don't think $70 a year is unreasonable for not having much downtown,
no failed hardware to replace, no power to pay for, having everything
backed up by UPS, etc. It let's me run a BBS without having to worry
about opening my own server up. I actually have 2 computers under my
desk plus my work laptop, I really don't want or need another.

Having my BBS on a VPS is just nice and easy, keeps it separate from my personal stuff. At $70 - it'd be hard to replace a hard drive,
motherboard, or memory module for that.
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Exactly my thought. I have a rack with servers in it right now at home and I still pay to host my BBS in a datacenter. As much as I could for sure host it at home with no real issues. I run many other things at home. Just not my BBS. However for nostalgia I may run a system to receive a dial up connection for my BBS eventually.
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 00:55:45 -0700
"Deepend" <deepend@1:342/11> wrote:

Exactly my thought. I have a rack with servers in it right now at
home and I still pay to host my BBS in a datacenter. As much as I
could for sure host it at home with no real issues. I run many other
things at home. Just not my BBS. However for nostalgia I may run a
system to receive a dial up connection for my BBS eventually.

I was thinking of having something similar, over the past 4 days I've
had problems with my internet connection, will be fine for 10-20
minutes, then lose connection for a few seconds, and then it's up
again. Would suck for a BBS user to be playing a game and then get disconnected. I'd rather them have a solid experience, the few I get
anyway.

The problem with a landline is that they're expensive these days and
you cannot get copper as it is. I've heard VOIP has its problems. I
tried to use a fax over VOIP once and it failed pretty bad.

I'd be interested in hearing how others have used tech other than
copper to provide dailup to their BBS.
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I'd be interested in hearing how others have used tech other than
copper to provide dailup to their BBS.

I was an early adopter when VoIP became available. In Mars 2005 I cut the wire. And yeas, the first years were awful, with barely 9600 fax speed -- not even 19200, the "new" fax speed by then. And obviously ordinary modems didn't work better.

But since then, development has improved dramatically, now (despite the fact that the packet oriented Ethernet is not optimal for most fast modem protocols) my callers get very stable and fast connections all the time, albeit not the same top speed that the old copper wires provided.

My BBS (as well as the mailer) is still answering phone calls (see phone number in the nodelist), although most callers prefer telnet. It's been up and running continuously ever since it opened in May 1989.



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On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 16:26:51 +0100
"Bj_rn Felten" <bj_rn.felten@2:203/2> wrote:

I'd be interested in hearing how others have used tech other than
copper to provide dailup to their BBS.

I was an early adopter when VoIP became available. In Mars 2005 I
cut the wire. And yeas, the first years were awful, with barely 9600
fax speed -- not even 19200, the "new" fax speed by then. And
obviously ordinary modems didn't work better.

But since then, development has improved dramatically, now
(despite the fact that the packet oriented Ethernet is not optimal
for most fast modem protocols) my callers get very stable and fast connections all the time, albeit not the same top speed that the old
copper wires provided.

My BBS (as well as the mailer) is still answering phone calls (see
phone number in the nodelist), although most callers prefer telnet.
It's been up and running continuously ever since it opened in May
1989.

Which provider and equipment are you using?
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