• Newly hatched files

    From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Monday, May 02, 2022 08:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2205.ZIP 117 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip).
    If other nets are present, then files
    {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.2 is (c) 2019-2022
    by Vincent B Coen 2:25/21 or 2:250/1
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
    2:25/21 or 2:250/1 and these must be done
    every six months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 117 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 117 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; elistmaint.

    ... "Suicide Hotline...please hold."


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    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Friday, June 03, 2022 08:00:00
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2206.ZIP 116 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip). BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is now included. If other nets are present,
    then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are
    also present. FIDONet EList v5.3 is
    (c) 2019-2022 by Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 &
    2:25/21. Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL FILES DIRECT to
    2:25/21 and these must be done
    every twelve months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 116 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 116 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; elistmaint.

    ... An Elephant; A Mouse built to government specifications.


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    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Sunday, July 03, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2207.ZIP 159 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip). BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is now included. If other nets are present,
    then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are
    also present. FIDONet EList v5.3 is
    (c) 2019-2022 by Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 &
    2:25/21. Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
    2:25/21 and these must be done every twelve
    months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 159 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 159 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Build a watch in 179 easy steps" by C. Forsberg.


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    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Wednesday, August 03, 2022 08:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2208.ZIP 108 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip). BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is now included. If other nets are present,
    then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are
    also present. FIDONet EList v5.3 is
    (c) 2019-2022 by Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 &
    2:25/21. Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
    2:25/21 and these must be done every twelve
    months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 108 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 108 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Monday, August 22, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2208.ZIP 138 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip). BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is now included. If other nets are present,
    then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are
    also present. FIDONet EList v5.3 is
    (c) 2019-2022 by Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 &
    2:25/21. Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
    2:25/21 and these must be done every twelve
    months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 138 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 138 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... An Elephant; A Mouse built to government specifications.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Friday, September 02, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2209.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip). BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is now included. If other nets are present,
    then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are
    also present. FIDONet EList v5.3 is
    (c) 2019-2022 by Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 &
    2:25/21. Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
    2:25/21 and these must be done every twelve
    months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 140 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 140 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Monday, September 19, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST~JFY.ZIP 140 Kb. Zip'd echo lists archive created Monthly
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 140 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 140 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Keyboard? How quaint!" - Scotty


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vince Coen on Monday, September 19, 2022 11:10:52
    Hi Vince,

    On 2022-09-19 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    ELST~JFY.ZIP 140 Kb. Zip'd echo lists archive created Monthly
    Magic request: ECHOLIST

    Maybe intentional? But the FILE_ID.DIZ was missing from the zip files I received today...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Monday, September 19, 2022 14:20:42
    Hello Wilfred!

    Monday September 19 2022 11:10, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    Hi Vince,

    On 2022-09-19 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    ELST~JFY.ZIP 140 Kb. Zip'd echo lists archive created
    Monthly
    Magic request: ECHOLIST

    Maybe intentional? But the FILE_ID.DIZ was missing from the zip files
    I received today...

    No, thanks for letting me know - yet another bug :(

    Did not transfer over the file to the Pi system running the elist system.


    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 08:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2209.ZIP 140 Kb. Zip'd echo lists archive created Monthly
    Magic request: ECHOLIST
    EL220919.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP).
    BACKBONE.NA & .RPT is included. If other nets
    are present, then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA
    and .NO (if needed) are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com. Submit all *.ECO,
    *.RUL *.DES files DIRECT to 2:25/21 and these
    must be done every TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2 files, 280 KBytes.

    2 new files, together 280 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... At a store: In God we trust; all others pay cash.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Saturday, October 01, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL220930.ZIP 141 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP).
    BACKBONE.NA & .RPT is included. If other nets
    are present, then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA
    and .NO (if needed) are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com. Submit all *.ECO,
    *.RUL *.DES files DIRECT to 2:25/21 and these
    must be done every TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 141 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 141 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Keyboard? How quaint!" - Scotty


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi on Saturday, October 01, 2022 11:28:09
    Hi Elistmaint,

    On 2022-10-01 08:00:02, you wrote to All:

    EL220930.ZIP 141 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    +++
    Elist v5.4.006 EchoList Database Report Group:FIDO

    As of 30th September 2022 23:30:02.13
    [...]
    { 10 records with Warnings reported }
    +++

    How are Warnings counted and reported on in the .RPT file?

    I count only 3 areas with a " WARNING CNT ..." line in the above file.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Monday, October 03, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2210.ZIP 141 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip). BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is now included. If other nets are present,
    then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are
    also present. FIDONet EList v5.3 is
    (c) 2019-2022 by Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 &
    2:25/21. Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
    2:25/21 and these must be done every twelve
    months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 141 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 141 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... An Elephant; A Mouse built to government specifications.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:15:33
    Hello Wilfred!

    Saturday October 01 2022 11:28, you wrote to Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi:

    Hi Elistmaint,

    On 2022-10-01 08:00:02, you wrote to All:

    EL220930.ZIP 141 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    +++
    Elist v5.4.006 EchoList Database Report Group:FIDO

    As of 30th September 2022 23:30:02.13
    [...]
    { 10 records with Warnings reported }
    +++

    How are Warnings counted and reported on in the .RPT file?

    I count only 3 areas with a " WARNING CNT ..." line in the above
    file.


    Should now be sorted for the next months process (on the 1st) along with a few other niggles such as reporting the same for the BACKBONE report.


    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 08:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221002.ZIP 141 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP).
    BACKBONE.NA & .RPT is included. If other nets
    are present, then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA
    and .NO (if needed) are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com. Submit all *.ECO,
    *.RUL *.DES files DIRECT to 2:25/21 and these
    must be done every TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 141 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 141 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Suicide Hotline...please hold."


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Sunday, October 16, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221014.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP).
    BACKBONE.NA & .RPT is included. If other nets
    are present, then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA
    and .NO (if needed) are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com. Submit all *.ECO,
    *.RUL *.DES files DIRECT to 2:25/21 and these
    must be done every TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Suicide Hotline...please hold."


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Monday, October 17, 2022 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221015.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP).
    BACKBONE.NA & .RPT is included. If other nets
    are present, then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA
    and .NO (if needed) are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com. Submit all *.ECO,
    *.RUL *.DES files DIRECT to 2:25/21 and these
    must be done every TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... At a store: In God we trust; all others pay cash.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vince Coen on Monday, October 17, 2022 15:29:20
    Hi Vince,

    On 2022-10-17 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    EL221015.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    Have you noticed the double printing of email addresses on a lot of the areas?

    Like this:

    TAGname: Z2REGION25 Group: FIDO

    TITLe: Zone 2 Region 25 Conference for all Nodes and invited guests ...
    From: Vincent Coen, 2:250/1
    Email: vbcoen@gmail.com

    Email:
    Email: vbcoen@gmail.com


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Monday, October 17, 2022 15:46:24
    Hello Wilfred!

    Monday October 17 2022 15:29, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    Hi Vince,

    On 2022-10-17 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    EL221015.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    Have you noticed the double printing of email addresses on a lot of
    the areas?

    Like this:

    TAGname: Z2REGION25 Group: FIDO

    TITLe: Zone 2 Region 25 Conference for all Nodes and invited guests
    ...
    From: Vincent Coen, 2:250/1
    Email: vbcoen@gmail.com

    Email:
    Email: vbcoen@gmail.com


    Only seems to be happening in the report file (.RPT).

    Looking..


    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Monday, October 17, 2022 16:09:00
    Hello Wilfred!

    Monday October 17 2022 15:29, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    Hi Vince,

    On 2022-10-17 08:00:02, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    EL221015.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    Have you noticed the double printing of email addresses on a lot of
    the areas?

    Like this:

    TAGname: Z2REGION25 Group: FIDO

    TITLe: Zone 2 Region 25 Conference for all Nodes and invited guests
    ...
    From: Vincent Coen, 2:250/1
    Email: vbcoen@gmail.com

    Email:
    Email: vbcoen@gmail.com


    Thanks for reporting, found and caused by only part removed of code dealing with 'Reply-To'. Now fixed for 5.4.012. Re-issued to 2:25/21.


    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Tuesday, November 01, 2022 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221031.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP).
    BACKBONE.NA & .RPT is included. If other nets
    are present, then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA
    and .NO (if needed) are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com. Submit all *.ECO,
    *.RUL *.DES files DIRECT to 2:25/21 and these
    must be done every TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Build a watch in 179 easy steps" by C. Forsberg.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Thursday, November 03, 2022 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2211.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip). BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is now included. If other nets are present,
    then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA & .NO are
    also present. FIDONet EList v5.3 is
    (c) 2019-2022 by Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 &
    2:25/21. Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO and *.RUL files DIRECT to
    2:25/21 and these must be done every twelve
    months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... An Elephant; A Mouse built to government specifications.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Tuesday, November 08, 2022 09:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221106.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) and all deleted echos
    if any, in (ELIST.NO) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP).
    BACKBONE.NA & .RPT is included. If other nets
    are present, then files {othernet}.RPT, .NA
    and .NO (if needed) are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com. Submit all *.ECO,
    *.RUL *.DES files DIRECT to 2:25/21 and these
    must be done every TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Luke... Luke... Use the MOUSE, Luke" - Obi Wan Gates


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Thursday, December 01, 2022 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221130.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... At a store: In God we trust; all others pay cash.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Saturday, December 03, 2022 09:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 256000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2212.ZIP 142 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip) & all .DES files in
    EDESyymm.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.3 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    twelve months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 142 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 142 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Keyboard? How quaint!" - Scotty


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221211.ZIP 142 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 142 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 142 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates '81


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Sunday, January 01, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL221231.ZIP 142 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 142 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 142 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Luke... Luke... Use the MOUSE, Luke" - Obi Wan Gates


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Tuesday, January 03, 2023 09:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2301.ZIP 209 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip) & all .DES files in
    EDESyymm.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.3 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    twelve months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 209 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 209 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Luke... Luke... Use the MOUSE, Luke" - Obi Wan Gates


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vince Coen on Tuesday, January 03, 2023 13:39:06
    Hi Vince,

    On 2023-01-03 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist --------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2301.ZIP 209 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    ^ lower case?

    Furthermore I noticed a few things, that might be intentional or not?

    - This annoucement message always arrives a day after the file it self.
    - BACKBONE.NA now contains the FSX_ areas.
    - BACKBONE.RPT now contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas. :-(
    - Some more entries in the BACKBONE.RPT file have the strange dates. (e.g.: 0015/41/03)
    - BACKBONE.RPT also has the FSX_ areas.
    - ELIST.NA has the identical content as BACKBONE.NA.
    - ELIST.RPT has almost the identical content as BACKBONE.RPT.
    - FSXNET.RPT reports at the bottom about fidonet areas.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tuesday, January 03, 2023 16:54:35
    Hello Wilfred!

    Tuesday January 03 2023 13:39, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    Hi Vince,

    On 2023-01-03 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    ----- ELST2301.ZIP 209 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly
    Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    ^ lower case?

    Furthermore I noticed a few things, that might be intentional or not?

    - This annoucement message always arrives a day after the file it
    self.
    My announcements for all such areas are processed after 07:00 GMT.

    - BACKBONE.NA now contains the FSX_ areas. - BACKBONE.RPT now
    contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas. :-( - Some more entries in the BACKBONE.RPT file have the strange dates. (e.g.:
    0015/41/03) - BACKBONE.RPT also has the FSX_ areas. - ELIST.NA has the identical content as BACKBONE.NA. - ELIST.RPT has almost the identical content as BACKBONE.RPT. - FSXNET.RPT reports at the bottom about
    fidonet areas.

    This is wrong, so need to look what the last changes made that effect this as am sure it was not doing so previously.

    Thanks for the report.

    I will try and do it today or failing that Wednesday.

    Bye, Wilfred.



    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tuesday, January 03, 2023 17:11:31
    Hello Wilfred!

    Tuesday January 03 2023 13:39, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    Hi Vince,

    On 2023-01-03 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    ----- ELST2301.ZIP 209 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly
    Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    ^ lower case?

    Furthermore I noticed a few things, that might be intentional or not?

    contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas.

    The rules are posted twice a year - January and July ONLY but echo's that are updated do have them posted in ELIST as part of the announcements.
    I did consider not doing so for the announcements but I wanted to remind moderators of their over extended size and un-needed information :)

    Falls on deaf ears any way by the look of it.



    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Tuesday, January 03, 2023 18:56:34
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-01-03 16:54:35, you wrote to me:

    - This annoucement message always arrives a day after the file it
    self.
    My announcements for all such areas are processed after 07:00 GMT.

    Why not just send it out at the same time as the zip file is hatched?

    - BACKBONE.NA now contains the FSX_ areas. - BACKBONE.RPT now
    contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas. :-( - Some more
    entries in the BACKBONE.RPT file have the strange dates. (e.g.:
    0015/41/03) - BACKBONE.RPT also has the FSX_ areas. - ELIST.NA has the
    identical content as BACKBONE.NA. - ELIST.RPT has almost the identical
    content as BACKBONE.RPT. - FSXNET.RPT reports at the bottom about
    fidonet areas.

    This is wrong, so need to look what the last changes made that effect this as am sure it was not doing so previously.

    Thanks for the report.

    I will try and do it today or failing that Wednesday.

    No rush! ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Tuesday, January 03, 2023 18:58:51
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-01-03 17:11:31, you wrote to me:

    contains the "Rules Content:" section for some areas.

    The rules are posted twice a year - January and July ONLY but echo's that are updated do have them posted in ELIST as part of the announcements. I did consider not doing so for the announcements but I wanted to
    remind moderators of their over extended size and un-needed information :)

    Falls on deaf ears any way by the look of it.

    They put all that effort in that big rules text. They don't want to shorten it down, just because you think it is too much. ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.20-B20230102
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Wednesday, January 11, 2023 09:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230109.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST
    EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2 files, 280 KBytes.

    2 new files, together 280 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vince Coen on Wednesday, January 11, 2023 10:43:50
    Hi Vince,

    On 2023-01-11 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    This one reports this at the bottom:

    { 43 records with Warnings reported }

    But:

    # grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
    19

    ???


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.5.1-B20230107
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wednesday, January 11, 2023 14:37:47
    Hello Wilfred!

    Wednesday January 11 2023 10:43, you wrote to Vince Coen:

    Hi Vince,

    On 2023-01-11 09:00:01, Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi wrote to All:

    EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    This one reports this at the bottom:

    { 43 records with Warnings reported }

    But:

    # grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
    19

    ???


    cat ELIST.RPT | grep WARNING | wc -l

    19

    Ditto for BACKBONE.RPT so it should be 38, I will take a look at the code Thanks for the bug report.

    I will have to make a decision on the way it is computed any way as it looks like counting for all reports but the count then should be 38.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Wednesday, January 11, 2023 16:12:14
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-01-11 14:37:47, you wrote to me:

    EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    This one reports this at the bottom:

    { 43 records with Warnings reported }

    But:

    # grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
    19

    ???


    cat ELIST.RPT | grep WARNING | wc -l

    19

    Ditto for BACKBONE.RPT so it should be 38, I will take a look at the code Thanks for the bug report.

    I will have to make a decision on the way it is computed any way as it looks like counting for all reports but the count then should be 38.

    I think it should only mention the number in ELIST.RPT. The ones in ELIST.RPT and BACKBONE.RPT are probably the same areas with warnings anyway...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.5.1-B20230107
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wednesday, January 11, 2023 15:32:50
    Hello Wilfred!

    Wednesday January 11 2023 16:12, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-01-11 14:37:47, you wrote to me:

    EL230110.ZIP 140 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    This one reports this at the bottom:

    { 43 records with Warnings reported }

    But:

    # grep WARNING ELIST.RPT | wc -l
    19

    ???


    cat ELIST.RPT | grep WARNING | wc -l

    19

    Ditto for BACKBONE.RPT so it should be 38, I will take a look at
    the code Thanks for the bug report.

    I will have to make a decision on the way it is computed any way
    as it looks like counting for all reports but the count then
    should be 38.

    I think it should only mention the number in ELIST.RPT. The ones in ELIST.RPT and BACKBONE.RPT are probably the same areas with warnings anyway...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    The problem is it produces these reports without resetting the count - I think - I have to check it and fix it.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Friday, January 13, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230111.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Build a watch in 179 easy steps" by C. Forsberg.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Saturday, January 14, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230113.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Build a watch in 179 easy steps" by C. Forsberg.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Saturday, January 28, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230127.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... At a store: In God we trust; all others pay cash.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Sunday, January 29, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230128.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates '81


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Tuesday, January 31, 2023 09:00:00
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230129.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... At a store: In God we trust; all others pay cash.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Wednesday, February 01, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230131.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Build a watch in 179 easy steps" by C. Forsberg.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Thursday, February 02, 2023 09:00:00
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2302.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip) & all .DES files in
    EDESyymm.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.3 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    twelve months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Saturday, February 04, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230202.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Build a watch in 179 easy steps" by C. Forsberg.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Sunday, February 05, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230203.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST
    EL230204.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2 files, 282 KBytes.

    2 new files, together 282 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... A dirty book is rarely dusty.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Monday, February 06, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230205.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... An Elephant; A Mouse built to government specifications.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Wednesday, February 08, 2023 09:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230206.ZIP 144 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2022 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 144 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 144 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Thursday, February 09, 2023 09:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230207.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2023 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 143 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 143 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Keyboard? How quaint!" - Scotty


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi on Thursday, February 09, 2023 03:30:12
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- ------------------------- Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230207.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, February 09, 2023 13:22:23
    Hello Alan!

    Thursday February 09 2023 03:30, you wrote to Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi:

    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- --------------------
    ------------------------- Inet applewood.linkpc.net 276000000
    CM,XA,IBN
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    -----

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    ----- EL230207.ZIP 143 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    You not reading the posts here ?

    Any updates to the elist system are noted and at 23:30 each evening that such updates occur that change description or title as well as new entries generate a new On-Demand archive.

    This ensures that for those Sysop's that wish to keep up to date for the file BACKBONE.NA can do so as this file is useful to auto update their Echo areas when any downlinks request any and this allows their system to automatically deal with the request without any Sysop intervention.
    This method allows their system to auto create new echos into the system and
    at the same time helps to request any not currently supported to their designated Echo uplink.

    Of course this does depend on Sysops having a procedure / script / batch command file in place to extract the files they need and place then in the correct folder / directory for this all to happen :)

    Personally I like auto with me doing as little as possibly when ever available.
    Keeps my time on maintenance down.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Thursday, February 09, 2023 15:13:46
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-02-09 13:22:23, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    This ensures that for those Sysop's that wish to keep up to date for
    the file BACKBONE.NA can do so as this file is useful to auto update
    their Echo areas when any downlinks request any and this allows their system to automatically deal with the request without any Sysop intervention.

    You know there is (or used to be) a file area just for this purpose: BACKBONE (However the last BACKBONE.NA I received in there was in 2019)

    If you used that one for the daily updates, you can keep the ECHOLIST area "clean" with just monthly updates.
    And people have a choice what they want to receive and use.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.8.0-B20230208
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thursday, February 09, 2023 17:28:07
    * Originally in ECHOLIST
    * Crossposted in ELIST
    Hello Wilfred!

    Thursday February 09 2023 15:13, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-02-09 13:22:23, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    This ensures that for those Sysop's that wish to keep up to date
    for the file BACKBONE.NA can do so as this file is useful to auto
    update their Echo areas when any downlinks request any and this
    allows their system to automatically deal with the request
    without any Sysop intervention.

    You know there is (or used to be) a file area just for this purpose: BACKBONE (However the last BACKBONE.NA I received in there was in
    2019)

    If you used that one for the daily updates, you can keep the ECHOLIST
    area "clean" with just monthly updates. And people have a choice what
    they want to receive and use.


    The created archive contains amonst other files up to date copies of : BACKBONE.NA - Full list of ALL echo's available via the Fidonet network BACKBONE.RPT - Full lists of the same with all details as a report
    ELIST.NA - Ditto but only for moderated echo's.
    ELIST.RPT - Ditto

    plus any other network files of similar types.

    The previously last BACKBONE.NA was used as a reference to help build the system in 2019.

    All this is reported within the help files supplied.


    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Vincent Coen on Thursday, February 09, 2023 10:01:28
    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    You not reading the posts here ?

    Yes, I do but that does not answer the question.

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    Any updates to the elist system are noted and at 23:30 each evening that such updates occur that change description or title as well as new entries generate a new On-Demand archive.

    It is great that you are maintaing the echo list, and I appreciate that.

    There are likely changes to the echo list all the time but I think it is enough to publish a new echo list once a month, as it has always been.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Thursday, February 09, 2023 19:14:34
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-02-09 17:28:07, you wrote to me:

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    This ensures that for those Sysop's that wish to keep up to date
    for the file BACKBONE.NA can do so as this file is useful to auto
    update their Echo areas when any downlinks request any and this
    allows their system to automatically deal with the request
    without any Sysop intervention.

    You know there is (or used to be) a file area just for this purpose:
    BACKBONE (However the last BACKBONE.NA I received in there was in
    2019)

    If you used that one for the daily updates, you can keep the ECHOLIST
    area "clean" with just monthly updates. And people have a choice what
    they want to receive and use.


    The created archive contains amonst other files up to date copies of : BACKBONE.NA - Full list of ALL echo's available via the Fidonet network
    BACKBONE.RPT - Full lists of the same with all details as a report ELIST.NA - Ditto but only for moderated echo's.
    ELIST.RPT - Ditto

    plus any other network files of similar types.

    The previously last BACKBONE.NA was used as a reference to help build the system in 2019.

    All this is reported within the help files supplied.

    I know. But your argument was they were usefull for automatic processing. Only the *.NA files are. So you don't have to hatch the complete archive every time a minuscule change takes place. A monthly frequency is fine for the .RPT files...

    Or if you don't agree, perhaps create separate file areas for the monthly and daily files, so people can choose.

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.8.0-B20230208
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Alan Ianson on Friday, February 10, 2023 10:35:54
    Hello Alan!

    09 Feb 23 10:01, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

    You not reading the posts here ?
    Yes, I do but that does not answer the question.

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    Yes he is. I'm seriously considering dropping that area due to them being sent out every day.

    Any updates to the elist system are noted and at 23:30 each evening
    that such updates occur that change description or title as well as
    new entries generate a new On-Demand archive.

    It is great that you are maintaing the echo list, and I appreciate
    that.

    There are likely changes to the echo list all the time but I think it
    is enough to publish a new echo list once a month, as it has always
    been.

    The list really dosn't change on a daily basis, unless a update is sent in. Vince should be then holding the
    hatching to min once a week. Even once a month would be enough.



    Stephen


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220409
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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Alan Ianson on Friday, February 10, 2023 01:14:59
    Hello Alan!

    Thursday February 09 2023 10:01, you wrote to me:

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    You not reading the posts here ?

    Yes, I do but that does not answer the question.

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    Any updates to the elist system are noted and at 23:30 each evening
    that such updates occur that change description or title as well as
    new entries generate a new On-Demand archive.

    It is great that you are maintaing the echo list, and I appreciate
    that.

    There are likely changes to the echo list all the time but I think it
    is enough to publish a new echo list once a month, as it has always
    been.

    It is done ONCE every day that there are additions or significant changes to the database by way of MOD-ADD or-UPD.

    I was doing it monthly but my system was being requested for new ones that had not been sent via the monthly archive so it is also done on-demand.

    If you have no use for them, then just ignore the dailies.

    I have found them useful but there again I am a echo hub.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Friday, February 10, 2023 01:19:35
    Hello Wilfred!

    Thursday February 09 2023 19:14, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-02-09 17:28:07, you wrote to me:

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    This ensures that for those Sysop's that wish to keep up to
    date for the file BACKBONE.NA can do so as this file is useful
    to auto update their Echo areas when any downlinks request any
    and this allows their system to automatically deal with the
    request without any Sysop intervention.

    You know there is (or used to be) a file area just for this
    purpose: BACKBONE (However the last BACKBONE.NA I received in
    there was in 2019)

    If you used that one for the daily updates, you can keep the
    ECHOLIST area "clean" with just monthly updates. And people have a
    choice what they want to receive and use.


    The created archive contains amonst other files up to date copies
    of : BACKBONE.NA - Full list of ALL echo's available via the
    Fidonet network BACKBONE.RPT - Full lists of the same with all
    details as a report ELIST.NA - Ditto but only for
    moderated echo's. ELIST.RPT - Ditto

    plus any other network files of similar types.

    The previously last BACKBONE.NA was used as a reference to help
    build the system in 2019.

    All this is reported within the help files supplied.

    I know. But your argument was they were usefull for automatic
    processing. Only the *.NA files are. So you don't have to hatch the
    complete archive every time a minuscule change takes place. A monthly frequency is fine for the .RPT files...

    Or if you don't agree, perhaps create separate file areas for the
    monthly and daily files, so people can choose.

    You can, just extract the files you are interested in and ignore the rest although if you run a bbs you might want the rules content and when usage of the descriptions start appearing tat as well.

    Come on all the archive is very small any way.

    Must admit there has been a few more changes for ihis month so far i.e., 3,4,5,6,7 and 8.

    This is rare though.

    Think my system can handle the bandwidth though even at a 20 Mb upload speed.

    The are very small files compared to some of the stuff I shift.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Stephen Walsh on Friday, February 10, 2023 01:25:27
    Hello Stephen!

    Friday February 10 2023 10:35, you wrote to Alan Ianson:


    Hello Alan!

    09 Feb 23 10:01, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

    You not reading the posts here ?
    Yes, I do but that does not answer the question.

    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    Yes he is. I'm seriously considering dropping that area due to them
    being sent out every day.

    Any updates to the elist system are noted and at 23:30 each
    evening that such updates occur that change description or title
    as well as new entries generate a new On-Demand archive.

    It is great that you are maintaing the echo list, and I
    appreciate that.

    There are likely changes to the echo list all the time but I
    think it is enough to publish a new echo list once a month, as it
    has always been.

    The list really dosn't change on a daily basis, unless a update is
    sent in. Vince should be then holding the hatching to min once a week.
    Even once a month would be enough.

    Yes I did consider weekly and for a while did so but there was a wee batch of new changes over some days last year so changed the code to create a new archive is any changes occurred between 00:30 and 23:30 and sent just the ONE file.




    Vincent

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Vincent Coen on Thursday, February 09, 2023 17:32:58
    The created archive contains amonst other files up to date copies of : BACKBONE.NA - Full list of ALL echo's available via the Fidonet network BACKBONE.RPT - Full lists of the same with all details as a report

    I concur with Wilfred's idea here. The BACKBONE.NA hasn't been updated in years, not in the BACKBONE file area. I believe I am connected to that area at your node.

    If you wanted to you could update that file and/or BACKBONE.RPT as you please in the BACKBONE area.

    I don't know if it needs updating daily but if we could keep that file fresh it would be a good thing.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Stephen Walsh on Thursday, February 09, 2023 17:35:26
    Are you hatching a new echo list every day?

    Yes he is. I'm seriously considering dropping that area due to them being sent out every day.

    Hopefully we can cool the engines a bit.

    The list really dosn't change on a daily basis, unless a update is sent in. Vince should be then holding the
    hatching to min once a week. Even once a month would be enough.

    I think monthly is plenty. It could happen at times when there are important changes or corrections need to be made an extra file is no issue, but daily seems a bit much.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Vincent Coen on Thursday, February 09, 2023 17:45:52
    There are likely changes to the echo list all the time but I think it
    is enough to publish a new echo list once a month, as it has always
    been.

    It is done ONCE every day that there are additions or significant changes to the database by way of MOD-ADD or-UPD.

    I understand that you get frequent updates but I don't think that means that a new echo list needs to be sent out.

    I was doing it monthly but my system was being requested for new ones that had not been sent via the monthly archive so it is also done on-demand.

    Maybe you could make these updates available for freq? ECHOLIST.ZIP or so, or create a file area for the on demand updates.

    If you have no use for them, then just ignore the dailies.

    I have a use for the echolist. I have it, I don't need it daily or "On Demand".

    I have found them useful but there again I am a echo hub.

    Indeed, the echolist is useful and full of good information. That doesn't mean we need a new archive daily or weekly. We do need it managed and you are doing that, thank you.

    We just don't need these daily "on demand" archives, unless there are important changes or necessary corrections, then I understand.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Friday, February 10, 2023 10:54:59
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-02-10 01:19:35, you wrote to me:

    Or if you don't agree, perhaps create separate file areas for the
    monthly and daily files, so people can choose.

    You can, just extract the files you are interested in and ignore the rest although if you run a bbs you might want the rules content and when usage of the descriptions start appearing tat as well.

    That's putting the "burden" on everyone else. While it would be easiest to split things up in different areas, at the source!


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.8.0-B20230208
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Friday, February 10, 2023 10:56:36
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-02-10 01:25:27, you wrote to Stephen Walsh:

    Yes I did consider weekly and for a while did so but there was a wee
    batch of new changes over some days last year so changed the code to create a new archive is any changes occurred between 00:30 and 23:30
    and sent just the ONE file.

    What happens if a change occurs between 23:30 and 00:30 ?

    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Friday, February 10, 2023 14:43:55
    Hello Wilfred!

    Friday February 10 2023 10:56, you wrote to me:

    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-02-10 01:25:27, you wrote to Stephen Walsh:

    Yes I did consider weekly and for a while did so but there was a
    wee batch of new changes over some days last year so changed the
    code to create a new archive is any changes occurred between
    00:30 and 23:30 and sent just the ONE file.

    What happens if a change occurs between 23:30 and 00:30 ?

    It will go into the next days no-demand archive.

    I will be looking at the code to see why there is so many updates going out in the on-demand archives.

    It should not be so frequent, it is possibly there is a coding error for what is changed.

    It was for the following changes :

    1. A new echo created.
    2. A echo for which a change to the Title has been made.
    3. A echo for which a change to the description has been made.

    The third one I think can be killed off as I have never found a BBS package that make use if it, say by displaying it to a user only by user option of the rules and includes mbse as used here.

    The second (rules), I would suggest is also not really that important and can wait for the next months archive.

    So only new echos added should be in the On-Demand facility.

    I will look at the code today, change and do initial testing and pass it to the
    elist system for a compile and update the current version.

    This will reduce the number of updates.

    It is possible there is a bug that is causing this issue on any new code added over the last month or so, in which case I will fix it.

    I will also look at adding code to generate a BACKBONE.NA file for the file area BACKBONE to go out monthly and may be, on demand.

    The elist system does NOT get new echo's added that often so on both the above cases should not produce a high incidence of new BACKBONE.NA files during a month.

    However, the test will be to see exactly what happens when in production.

    I am guessing that the high run of these on-demand archives over the last week or so is because of echo;s changing the moderator / co-moderator but this should NOT be a reason for these archives to be created - again could be a bug in the code. I will be taking a look at it all.

    Vincent

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Vincent Coen on Wednesday, February 15, 2023 21:10:27
    On 10 Feb 2023 at 02:43p, Vincent Coen pondered and said...

    I will be looking at the code to see why there is so many updates going out in the on-demand archives.

    It should not be so frequent, it is possibly there is a coding error for what is changed.

    It was for the following changes :

    1. A new echo created.
    2. A echo for which a change to the Title has been made.
    3. A echo for which a change to the description has been made.

    I did 3 the other day and sent an update in for FSX_NET ... so perhaps that triggered something, I think it should have or at least understand it would have?

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Paul Hayton on Wednesday, February 15, 2023 14:56:20
    Hello Paul!

    Wednesday February 15 2023 21:10, you wrote to me:

    On 10 Feb 2023 at 02:43p, Vincent Coen pondered and said...

    I will be looking at the code to see why there is so many updates
    going out in the on-demand archives.

    It should not be so frequent, it is possibly there is a coding
    error for what is changed.

    It was for the following changes :

    1. A new echo created.
    2. A echo for which a change to the Title has been made.
    3. A echo for which a change to the description has been made.

    I did 3 the other day and sent an update in for FSX_NET ... so perhaps
    that triggered something, I think it should have or at least
    understand it would have?

    Hopefully the code changes has fixed the issue, I will see if anyone does a MOD-UPD over the next few days.

    The code for descriptions was a wee bit OTT as no BBS uses it yet as far as I know. There again I suspect not many make use of the rules or at least load then in from the monthly archives although I do for mbse but I have very few bbs users.

    Most if not all, use the web to grab files via web browser or ftp as it is quicker.


    Vincent

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    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 50 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2305.ZIP 138 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip) & all .DES files in
    EDESyymm.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.3 is (c) 2019-2023 by
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    twelve months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    1 new file, together 138 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... A dirty book is rarely dusty.


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  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Saturday, May 06, 2023 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 50 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- EL230504.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELyymmdd.ZIP the On Demand
    Echolist archive for the Fidonet network.
    It includes complete information of all mod'd
    echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERyymmdd.ZIP) & all .DES files in
    EDyymmdd.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.4 is (c) 2019-2023 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    TWELVE months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...


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    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Saturday, June 03, 2023 08:00:02
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 50 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2306.ZIP 135 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip) & all .DES files in
    EDESyymm.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.3 is (c) 2019-2023 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    twelve months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 135 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 135 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... "Luke... Luke... Use the MOUSE, Luke" - Obi Wan Gates


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    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)
  • From Elistmaint at 2:25/21 Pi@2:25/21 to All on Monday, July 03, 2023 08:00:01
    System name Elist Control
    Sysop Elistmaint (elist@gmail.com)
    Location Hatfield, UK
    Remark The Elist Maintain Co-Ordinator
    Network aka 2:25/21@fidonet
    Internet applewood.linkpc.net
    Running MBSE BBS v1.0.8 on Linux-armv7l

    Conn. Phone number Maximum speed Fidonet Flags
    ----- -------------------- -------------------- -------------------------
    Inet applewood.linkpc.net 50 CM,XA,IBN -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Area ECHOLIST - Fido - Echolist ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELST2307.ZIP 139 Kb. This is ELSTyymm.ZIP the monthly Echolist
    archive for the Fidonet network.
    it includes complete information of all
    Echo areas (ELIST.RPT), a full summary of
    echo tags (ELIST.NA) plus all current .RUL
    files in (ERULyymm.Zip) & all .DES files in
    EDESyymm.ZIP along with BACKBONE.NA & .RPT
    is included. If other nets are present, then
    files {othernet}.RPT & .NA are also present.
    FIDONet EList v5.3 is (c) 2019-2023 by
    Vincent B Coen 2:250/1 & 2:25/21.
    Email: vbcoen(at)gmail.com.
    Submit all *.ECO, *.RUL & *.DES files DIRECT
    to 2:25/21 and these must be done every
    twelve months or sooner.
    Magic request: ECHOLIST -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 file, 139 KBytes.

    1 new file, together 139 KBytes of fresh stuff.

    With regards; Elistmaint.

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...


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    * Origin: Elist Maintainer (2:25/21)