• Re: Point

    From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Ward Dossche on Friday, November 19, 2021 09:37:18
    I didn't blame you for anything.

    Cut the semantics ... a rose by any other name still is a rose.

    I've only responded to things you directly said to me out of nowhere. I never blamed you for anything. I did correct you with proof when you said I was lying about my "FidoNet creds" (lol who would even do that). There are no semantics here, just the truth.

    You are at a point where you can either accept accountability for the way you are behaving, or you can continue to fathom up some boogey man so you don't have to accept that you're wrong. Up to you, I could care less.

    Take care.

    ... A .GIF is worth a thousand .TXT.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/18 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to James Coyle on Friday, November 19, 2021 16:39:32
    Hi James,

    On 2021-11-19 09:37:18, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    I did correct you with proof when you said I was lying about my
    "FidoNet creds"

    What proof? There is no James Coyle in the nodelist you gave the link for...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Wilfred van Velzen on Friday, November 19, 2021 15:38:16
    I did correct you with proof when you said I was lying about my "FidoNet creds"

    What proof? There is no James Coyle in the nodelist you gave the link for...

    Ahh yes...

    That person with the same name from the same town with the same address who ran a BBS with the same name is NOT me, and is obviously someone else. Clearly thats the conclusion that a reasonable sane person would come to after viewing that nodelist!

    ... As I said before, I never repeat myself

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/18 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to James Coyle on Friday, November 19, 2021 23:49:41
    Mr. g00r00 sah,

    That person with the same name from the same town with the same address
    who ran a BBS with the same name is NOT me, and is obviously someone
    else. Clearly thats the conclusion that a reasonable sane person would come to after viewing that nodelist!

    I took the URL which you showed, used the search function of an editor for 'James Coyle' and 'nada'... Nodelists aren't intended to be read as a newspaper, they're technical documents intended to be machine-read.

    You knew there was a Jim Coyle entry, so you knew what to look for ... not Wilfred nor I.

    I/we (?) also searched for "James Coyle" in

    https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/
    http://ambrosia60.dd-dns.de/fidonet/nlarchive2.php

    'Nada' on both counts...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Oct 12 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to James Coyle on Saturday, November 20, 2021 00:11:09
    Hi James,

    On 2021-11-19 15:38:16, you wrote to me:

    I did correct you with proof when you said I was lying about my
    "FidoNet creds"

    What proof? There is no James Coyle in the nodelist you gave the link
    for...

    Ahh yes...

    That person with the same name from the same town with the same address who
    ran a BBS with the same name is NOT me, and is obviously someone else.

    There is no person with the same name. There are 3 persons with the last name Coyle in that list, but all list a different Town then your currently listed Philadelphia. And there are no addresses in the nodelist (so we can't compare those). And there was no system with the name "Mystic BBS Support" in that nodelist. Have you even looked at that nodelist? You are not making any sense...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to James Coyle on Saturday, November 20, 2021 08:16:40
    Hello James,

    On Fri Nov 19 2021 15:38:16, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Ahh yes...

    You're better off leaving it alone my good man. These are the same people that police the nodelist (and yes, they actually made an echo for it) because they have nothing better to do besides argue with others until whatever conversation they decide to jump into abruptly goes silent due to others not wanting to stoop to their level. Fidonet at it's finest.

    I'd rather this echo go back to discussing D'Bridge and the future cowbell it will include, because well, we always need more cowbell. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20210705
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nicholas Boel on Monday, November 22, 2021 09:49:59
    Nick,

    You're better off leaving it alone my good man. These are the same people that police the nodelist (and yes, they actually made an echo for it) because they have nothing better to do besides argue with others until whatever conversation they decide to jump into abruptly goes silent due
    to others not wanting to stoop to their level. Fidonet at it's finest.

    With the nodelist being at the center of Fidonet-operations, maintaining it at certain moments is a tedious business. Without a decent nodelist we're fried.

    While one might get upset with the nodelist police's activity, it's possible to just ignore it or try to turn it into a resource for monitoring what happens to said nodelist-entries. I'm in-between both.

    It resulted over the years into a pretty clean nodelist ... no more fax-numbers, no more private phones, no more street-adressess, in a certain case even someone's shoe-size. ill-formed flags, unknown flags.... more stuff.

    The "invention" of the daily-lists was also a seed planted by the nodelist-police and other things too all resulting from discussions.

    Gone are the days of Bob Satti and Ron Dwight who just loved sitting on their throne and dispensing their wisdom. In the case of Ron Dwight it meant a lot of controversial things and Bob Satti fought like hell first to keep high modem speeds and later IP out of the nodelist.

    It seems to me a lot has gone over your head when you make the remarks quoted above.

    This is just a clarification, nothing more.

    Take care,

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Oct 12 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Wilfred van Velzen on Monday, November 22, 2021 11:44:46
    There is no person with the same name. There are 3 persons with the last name Coyle in that list, but all list a different Town then your
    currently listed Philadelphia. And there are no addresses in the
    nodelist (so we can't compare those). And there was no system with the name "Mystic BBS Support" in that nodelist. Have you even looked at that nodelist? You are not making any sense...

    Jim is the abbreviation for James, so yes its the same name. The Net 268 person decided he was going to use the abbrivated version when he listed me in 1991 and I didn't give a shit that he did. Any reasonable person would see that and come to the same conclusion but maybe its a language thing and you don't know they are the same name?

    Regardless this conversation was never about truth and it never is with you. *IF ONLY* there were 27 years of software releases that I've done where one could see the location and where other information could easily be verified...

    LOL

    ... Old computers make great boat anchors

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/18 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Nicholas Boel on Monday, November 22, 2021 11:52:07
    You're better off leaving it alone my good man. These are the same
    people that police the nodelist (and yes, they actually made an echo for it) because they have nothing better to do besides argue with others
    until whatever conversation they decide to jump into abruptly goes
    silent due to others not wanting to stoop to their level. Fidonet at
    it's finest.

    Right on, its always for the best to get your amusement from them and then move on after a few. They have nothing better to do than to continue to make up a world that isn't real and try to argue things that aren't even arguable.

    They've been "harassing me" for years (at least I think thats what they think they're doing). I get amused by their backwards behavior so I keep it going for a bit...

    More recently part of me is saddened as I think about it. They've probably spent their entire mid-life engrossed in everything FidoNet. It was their lives, their passion, their personality was created on FidoNet. And then Fido became so incredibly insigificant. They literally made fun of me for using an alias and if that isn't an indicator of how amazingly out of touch they are...

    Anyway, yeah. This echo should be cowbell-only. Lets hope they'll keep their nonsense to their usual places (ie support areas for my software) and refrain from trying to harass me in other places.

    ... What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/18 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to James Coyle on Monday, November 22, 2021 12:36:59
    On 22 Nov 21 11:52:07, James Coyle said the following to Nicholas Boel:

    Anyway, yeah. This echo should be cowbell-only. Lets hope they'll keep th

    D'Bridge has a Cowbell feature, in fact a few hooks to allow playing of audio files on personal mail. So naturally I *expect* you to "one up" me every
    time I publish an update... lol.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Nick Andre on Monday, November 22, 2021 13:40:18
    D'Bridge has a Cowbell feature, in fact a few hooks to allow playing of audio files on personal mail. So naturally I *expect* you to "one up" me every time I publish an update... lol.

    I just renamed mystic.exe to cowbell.exe! Your move, sir! :)

    ... A PC a day keeps the Apple away!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/18 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to James Coyle on Monday, November 22, 2021 23:55:30
    Hello g00r00 James,

    Any reasonable person
    would see that and come to the same conclusion but maybe its a language thing and you don't know they are the same name?

    Ahhhhhhh .... there we have the zone warz again .... I thought we had gotten rid of those...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Oct 12 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to James Coyle on Monday, November 22, 2021 20:05:19
    On 22 Nov 21 13:40:18, James Coyle said the following to Nick Andre:

    D'Bridge has a Cowbell feature, in fact a few hooks to allow playing o audio files on personal mail. So naturally I *expect* you to "one up" every time I publish an update... lol.

    I just renamed mystic.exe to cowbell.exe! Your move, sir! :)

    If you can actually convince everyone in the Mystic echo to do this and/or
    the Mystic installer will do this... that could be a "checkmate".

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:07:10
    I just renamed mystic.exe to cowbell.exe! Your move, sir! :)

    If you can actually convince everyone in the Mystic echo to do this
    and/or the Mystic installer will do this... that could be a
    "checkmate".

    Hah I could make it an install option!

    install auto c:\mystic -cowbell

    LOL

    ... As I said before, I never repeat myself
    --- Cowbell BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/22 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, December 23, 2021 02:34:22
    Hello Ward!

    12 Nov 2021 22:27, Ward Dossche wrote to Andy Gorman:

    I am working on setting up my Telegard system as a point off my
    Renegade setup. Is there anything special I have to do in the D'Bridge
    host to set it up as a point? I was going through the docs and didn't
    see much.

    I got this message twice ...

    i have 5 copys of that msg

    PATH: 387/28 396/45 280/464 292/854
    PATH: 387/28 396/45 261/38 640/1321 1384 633/280 229/426 292/854

    Crappy version of Renegade?

    its dos :)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.15.11-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)