Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-
JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Styrofoam? Why are they not using waxed paperboard containers?
Co$t. Pure and simple. Styrofaom is cheaper - and so are they. There
is only one restaurant I've been to that I know uses non-styrofoam take away cotainers
Title: Chelle's Goat Chili
It's legit / ICS: "any kind of meat or combination of meats"
JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Styrofoam? Why are they not using waxed paperboard containers?
Co$t. Pure and simple. Styrofaom is cheaper - and so are they. There
is only one restaurant I've been to that I know uses non-styrofoam take away cotainers
They may be cheaper but more and more Canadian restaurants have
stopped using them along with styro coffee cups, clamshells for
burgers and plastic straws. And of course bragging about it.
It's legit / ICS: "any kind of meat or combination of meats"
Usually red meat for the red style. In the far north Muskox is
commonly used. They are a barren land animal, not found as far south
as where I live but I am sometimes able to purchase or barter for
some. It's a Bovid so related to bison and cattle and not
surprisingly tastes a lot like them too.
Dave Drum wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
Restaurants (local to me) are pretty much still on styrofoam - other
than Brunchfield Cafe - who I mentioned previously.
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Restaurants (local to me) are pretty much still on styrofoam - other
than Brunchfield Cafe - who I mentioned previously.
There is now a paper shortage in the US and I've noticed a lot of food-related places have been going back to Styrofoam. I went to Sam's Club the other day and they were handing out plain 32-ounce cups.
Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
I hadn't realised that we were in a paper shortage. But I can see that climate change affecting the growth of pulp wood can be devastating. As well as "Starting Jan 1, 2022, the Finnish Paperworkers' Union issued
a new strike, followed by support from the Transport Workers' Union,
which shut down Finland's ports. This brought paper production and transport to a complete standstill.".
Apparently we import a LOT of paper .... and not just from Canadia.
I'm doing my part - my newspaper subscriptions are digital and my books are on my Kindle.
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I hadn't realised that we were in a paper shortage. But I can see that climate change affecting the growth of pulp wood can be devastating. As well as "Starting Jan 1, 2022, the Finnish Paperworkers' Union issued
a new strike, followed by support from the Transport Workers' Union,
which shut down Finland's ports. This brought paper production and transport to a complete standstill.".
Here, it's cost. Wood pulp has shot up 50-plus percent in cost and the price of paper is 15-plus percent higher. This made a small blip in the news cycle last September but the situation is expected to last until
2023 or so.
Apparently we import a LOT of paper .... and not just from Canadia.
We do as a nation. A lot of people don't know that.
I'm doing my part - my newspaper subscriptions are digital and my books are on my Kindle.
I really don't use many paper products anymore. They're just too
precious to be frivolous with them since I have no income.
Restaurants (local to me) are pretty much still on styrofoam - other
than Brunchfield Cafe - who I mentioned previously.
There is now a paper shortage in the US and I've noticed a lot of food-related places have been going back to Styrofoam. I went to
Sam's Club the other day and they were handing out plain 32-ounce
cups.
Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
My housemate recently brought home some flimsy 16# (or less) copy paper from WalMart Sheesh - what a rip-off. I was in the printing and graphic arts trade for years .... you want at least a 20# basis weight paper
for general purpose printing/copying. Moving up to 24# for important stuff. The lightweight paper jams too easily in printers/copy machines. Just took a look for Hammermill 20# while vellum - U$10.49/ream. After shopping - the average price (in case/5000 sheet lots) is U$6/ream. A whole case would be a lifetime+ supply for me.
And I used to buy the same paper - brand, weight, etc @<$15/case. WOW!
Apparently we import a LOT of paper .... and not just from Canadia.
Even the price of bum fodder - the paper I use the most of has risen by
a factor of at least 2X. I buy it by the case from Quill or from https://www.webstaurantstore.com/
Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Our favorite Italian restaurant uses foil containers with
cardboard/foil lids for take out. The place where we used to get prime
rib (They discontinued it when the price of beef started climbing last year.) uses them too. The container is recyleable if well washed out;
the lid isn't.
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I have a double ream of HP-branded 20# paper here. It does well for
what I use it for with my aging but very reliable HP Officejet 4630
inkjet all-in-one printer (probably the best $99 I have spent). Less
than $10 when I bought it two years ago (!) but I'm afraid to see the price of it now.
And I used to buy the same paper - brand, weight, etc @<$15/case. WOW!
Yeah, I think I am going to be stopping by Sam's Club today and I will check the price on that paper.
Apparently we import a LOT of paper .... and not just from Canadia.
We're surprisingly dependent on paper imports.
Even the price of bum fodder - the paper I use the most of has risen by
a factor of at least 2X. I buy it by the case from Quill or from https://www.webstaurantstore.com/
I usually get the big (1000 sheets) rolls of Scott toilet tissue. It's not the softest but orders of magnitude better than that sandpaper they called TP in the Army.
Quill...now that's a name I haven't heard in years. Glad to see
they're still around. Used to get office furniture from them in the
late 80s and early 90s when I first got into IT professionally as a teenager.
We do have a store called The Stock Pot where you can get a decent
amount of professional food service stuff. There's also a decent Asian food market in it. https://www.thestockpotjc.com/
I did bookmark that URL. Looks like a great place.
I still want to get to GFS in Knoxville when I can. When I have my own vehicle again, I might make it a day trip. A two hour drive each way isn't bad at all.
Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
HP All-In-One copy paper is about $8/ream @ Sam's. Staples is le$$.
Ah, the old "John Wayne" t.p. Rought an d tough and doesn't take any sh....tuff off of anyone. Bv)=
Yeah, I don't think your scooter would make it that far. Bv)=
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
HP All-In-One copy paper is about $8/ream @ Sam's. Staples is le$$.
The nearest Staples from here is in Greeneville, now a 40 minute drive west of me. I could ask my parents when they go to Greeneville (they
live 10 minutes east of Greeneville).
Ah, the old "John Wayne" t.p. Rough and tough and doesn't take any sh....tuff off of anyone. Bv)=
It also lets you know it's been there by rubbing you raw.
Yeah, I don't think your scooter would make it that far. Bv)=
No but it does make it to the public library just fine. 40 minute ride over some terrible sidewalks but worth it. I am at the library right
now. It's a beautiful day (68F and partly cloudy) and while I have housework to do, it can wait as I had to return some music CDs I
checked out. I decided to make a day of it and brought my old laptop
and M$ Bluetooth mouse.
Our favorite Italian restaurant uses foil containers with
cardboard/foil lids for take out. The place where we used to get prime
rib (They discontinued it when the price of beef started climbing last year.) uses them too. The container is recyleable if well washed out;
the lid isn't.
I've seen places use foil for to-go hot sandwiches but not much else.
Wax paper is still king as is Styrofoam.
Why someone would want to put Coca-Cola in this is beyond me...
Title: HUNGARIAN GOULASH - WITH COKE
Categories: Hamburger, Beverages
Yield: 8 Servings
Ah, the old "John Wayne" t.p. Rough and tough and doesn't take any sh....tuff off of anyone. Bv)=
It also lets you know it's been there by rubbing you raw.
Never had that effect from it. Still that better than some that a Brit friend of my showed me once. It was slick-finished and, according to
him, very ineffective it its intended purpose.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I may be a bit sporadic for a couple of weeks. Steve's dad passed away Tuesday night (not sure if it was before or after midnight). It was
sort of expected, but not quite yet--or so we thought. Anyway, we'll be going up to spend some time with family this month, then going back
late next month for services, burial, etc after the ground thaws out.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Never had that effect from it. Still that better than some that a Brit friend of my showed me once. It was slick-finished and, according to
him, very ineffective it its intended purpose.
Feels like wax paper, doesn't it? When we drove up to Berlin from Frankfurt, we had to take a corridor thru East Germany. At Checkpoint Alpha (the start, in West Germany, maintained by the French, British
and American military), the paper was the waxy type. Knew it wasn't American, didn't know if it was French or British. The next year I had
a chance to go to England with some friends. Encountered the same paper there so I knew it was the British who'd supplied it at Helmstedt. (G)
I may be a bit sporadic for a couple of weeks. Steve's dad passed away Tuesday night (not sure if it was before or after midnight). It was
sort of expected, but not quite yet--or so we thought. Anyway, we'll be going up to spend some time with family this month, then going back
late next month for services, burial, etc after the ground thaws out.
Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-
I've already made my plans for my own demise - pre-paid cremation, etc. And told my brother to sell everything I have that he doesn't want and "throw the money on the bar and party until it's gone."
Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I've already made my plans for my own demise - pre-paid cremation, etc. And told my brother to sell everything I have that he doesn't want and "throw the money on the bar and party until it's gone."
I have just enough life insurance to pay off all our debt (including student loans) and burn myself. My instructions are pretty much the
same. Flush the ash down the crapper and have a party with the last of the cash.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I may be a bit sporadic for a couple of weeks. Steve's dad passed away Tuesday night (not sure if it was before or after midnight). It was
sort of expected, but not quite yet--or so we thought. Anyway, we'll be going up to spend some time with family this month, then going back
late next month for services, burial, etc after the ground thaws out.
Oh no. I am sorry to hear that news even if it was expected.
I may be a bit sporadic for a couple of weeks. Steve's dad passed away Tuesday night (not sure if it was before or after midnight). It was
sort of expected, but not quite yet--or so we thought. Anyway, we'll be going up to spend some time with family this month, then going back
late next month for services, burial, etc after the ground thaws out.
No matter how much we think we're prepared for it the reality of death nearly always shows us that we're not as ready as we thought we were.
When my mother had the stroke and lay in a coma - I *knew* that she
was not coming back from this one. Still, when I got the call it was tough.
I've already made my plans for my own demise - pre-paid cremation,
etc. And told my brother to sell everything I have that he doesn't
want and
"throw the money on the bar and party until it's gone."
I don't expect that to happen in that manner - but, I'll have no way
of checking or enforcing. Bv)=
Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-
same. Flush the ash down the crapper and have a party with the last of
Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Thanks, I knew/loved him as my 2nd father for many years. We made the
trip up to see him at Christmas, not knowing it would be the last time
we did. Steve was able to talk to him on Sunday afternoon, again
without knowing it would be the last time. Mom had wanted him to come
back to the assisted living place she's in--it's now home for her--but
he went to a better home.
Thanks, I knew/loved him as my 2nd father for many years. We made the
trip up to see him at Christmas, not knowing it would be the last time
we did. Steve was able to talk to him on Sunday afternoon, again
without knowing it would be the last time. Mom had wanted him to come
back to the assisted living place she's in--it's now home for her--but
he went to a better home.
I hope you all can find peace.
I understand what you're going through though from personal
experiences with both of my maternal grandparents passing away in
recent years.
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