• Gas etc.

    From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DAVE DRUM on Monday, March 14, 2022 21:55:00
    Subj: Curbside

    Title: Bacon ’n’ Creme Haystacks

    What is ’n’?

    Subj: Chowhound Closes

    When they went all corp-rat I switched to Simply Recipes (Elise
    Bauer's blog). Never regretted the move.

    It was about that time I discovered Serious Eats. I still read there.

    Subj: Gas

    the gas station owner gets vilified - and he's (if an
    independent) only averaging 4c to 6c/gallon gross profit.

    That should read 4% to 6% which is not too shabby.

    "40 - 55 per cent is crude oil costs 25 - 35 per cent is federal,
    provincial and municipal taxes and the GST 10 - 25 per cent is the
    refiner's margin 4 - 6 per cent is the marketing (or retail) margin"
    - Shell Canada

    "The gross margin (or markup) on gasoline in 2021 was 30.9 cents per
    gallon, or 10.2% of the average price of $3.03 for the year. Over
    the past five years, retailer gross margins have averaged 27.2 cents
    per gallon, or 10.7% of the overall price." - convenience.org
    NACS The Association for Convenience & Fuel Retailing

    The stations in Yellowknife earn 11 cents per litre (I've seen their
    books) so $0.42 per US gallon.

    They also face an 11 cent per litre transportation cost which will
    only get worse in the days to come.

    The average service station in Canada sells 43M litres a year, most
    years. (But just 37M liters in 2020/2021 thanks to Covid) - Stats
    Canada

    Title: Wes 'n' Kathy's Authentic Original Lima Bean Soup
    1 Chili pequin; crushed

    I love lima beans and that's how I make my ham and bean soups too,
    except for the choice of chilies. I never see Pequin peppers in my
    stores.

    Subj: Lunch Meat

    Armour Star Sliced Dried Beef

    They don't sell that here. I've never come across it. I found
    Armour's website and I note that their dried beef contains salt,
    sugar and sorbitol unlike what the hunters do here.

    I've switched to Knaus (brand) which is still cured sliced *real*
    beef. https://knaussfoods.com/

    I see they cure theirs with salt and sugar too. Which is fine by me.

    Where I live, the Dene people dry meat without brine or seasonings,
    not even salt just wind and sun and perhaps a little smoke. (I
    prefer jerky

    We're heading into a high alcohol long weekend: St. Patrick's Day on
    Thursday and then Holi on Friday.

    Another random leftover recipe from another old thread

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sloppy Jacques
    Categories: Beef, Groundmeat, Sandwiches
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Lean ground beef
    2 tb All purpose flour
    10 1/2 oz Can condensed French onion
    Soup
    4 Hamburger buns split

    In a large skillet, cook ground beef until brown. Drain off fat. Stir
    in flour and mix well. Stir in soup. Cook and stir over medium heat
    until bubbly. Cook and stir about 2 minutes more or until mixture
    thickens. Serve meat mixture over buns.

    From: Richard Lee Holbert

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Wednesday, March 16, 2022 06:26:37
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Title: Bacon ΓÇÖnΓÇÖ Creme Haystacks

    What is ΓÇÖnΓÇÖ?

    Duuuuhhhh. Denis? Abbreviation of "and". Personally I'd just use "&" to
    save the keystrokes and the silly questions.

    Subj: Chowhound Closes

    When they went all corp-rat I switched to Simply Recipes (Elise
    Bauer's blog). Never regretted the move.

    It was about that time I discovered Serious Eats. I still read there.

    I have a feed from Elise on my browser's home page. You may have noticed
    that many of the recipes I post with an "Uncle Drity Dave's Kitchen"
    tearline indicating that I've made that recipe have come from there <https://www.simplyrecipes.com/>

    Subj: Gas

    the gas station owner gets vilified - and he's (if an
    independent) only averaging 4c to 6c/gallon gross profit.

    That should read 4% to 6% which is not too shabby.

    "40 - 55 per cent is crude oil costs 25 - 35 per cent is federal, provincial and municipal taxes and the GST 10 - 25 per cent is the refiner's margin 4 - 6 per cent is the marketing (or retail) margin"
    - Shell Canada

    "The gross margin (or markup) on gasoline in 2021 was 30.9 cents per gallon, or 10.2% of the average price of $3.03 for the year. Over
    the past five years, retailer gross margins have averaged 27.2 cents
    per gallon, or 10.7% of the overall price." - convenience.org
    NACS The Association for Convenience & Fuel Retailing

    The stations in Yellowknife earn 11 cents per litre (I've seen their books) so $0.42 per US gallon.

    They also face an 11 cent per litre transportation cost which will
    only get worse in the days to come.

    The average service station in Canada sells 43M litres a year, most
    years. (But just 37M liters in 2020/2021 thanks to Covid) - Stats
    Canada

    I did not chase the "back story" - simplt took the word(s) of gad station owners of my acquaintance.

    Title: Wes 'n' Kathy's Authentic Original Lima Bean Soup
    1 Chili pequin; crushed

    I love lima beans and that's how I make my ham and bean soups too,
    except for the choice of chilies. I never see Pequin peppers in my
    stores.

    Peqiun are AKA "bird chilies" and are very hot. You can substitute chile
    de arbol (not as smoky) or cayenne. Some pequins run 100K scovilles
    whilst cayennes run in the 50K range and de arbol averages 25K.

    Subj: Lunch Meat

    Armour Star Sliced Dried Beef

    They don't sell that here. I've never come across it. I found
    Armour's website and I note that their dried beef contains salt,
    sugar and sorbitol unlike what the hunters do here.

    I got off of them because of the "chopped and formed" notation on the
    label. If I'm going to do that I might as well do Buddig - which could
    gag a skunk off a gut wagon. Armour dried beef used to be the "real
    deal" and I remember it fondly. But, apparently, the bean counters won
    out - which might be good for their bottom line but is horrid for my
    palate.

    I've switched to Knaus (brand) which is still cured sliced *real*
    beef. https://knaussfoods.com/

    I see they cure theirs with salt and sugar too. Which is fine by me.

    Where I live, the Dene people dry meat without brine or seasonings,
    not even salt just wind and sun and perhaps a little smoke. (I
    prefer jerky

    We're heading into a high alcohol long weekend: St. Patrick's Day on Thursday and then Holi on Friday.

    You do realise that St. Pat's celebration/PARADE is a mostly American
    holiday THING, do you not? In Ireland it's a bank holday and gummint
    offices close but other than that it's not celebrated any more than any
    other saint's name day. https://tinyurl.com/SHAM-ROCK-PAT

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Egg Drop Soup
    Categories: Oriental, Poultry, Mushrooms, Eggs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 Eggs; lightly beaten
    4 c Chicken stock *
    1 tb Corn flour or arrowroot
    1/2 ts Grated ginger
    1 tb Soy sauce *
    3 Green onions; chopped
    1/4 ts White pepper
    3/4 c Straw, enoki, or sliced
    - shitaki mushrooms

    * If cooking gluten-free, use gluten-free stock and
    gluten-free soy sauce.

    Homemade chicken stock is the best for this. Also, if
    you can't locate any of the mushroom types indicated
    in the recipe, crimini (aka: baby bellas) will do just
    fine. Or, you can just leave them out all together.

    Reserve 1/2 cup of the stock and mix with the corn
    starch/ arrowroot until dissolved.

    Place the chicken stock, ginger, soy sauce, green
    onions, mushrooms and white pepper in a pot and bring
    to a boil.

    Add the cornstarch/arrowroot and stock mixture and
    stir. Reduce heat to a simmer.

    Slowly pour in the beaten eggs while stirring the soup.
    The egg will spread out into ribbons. Turn off the heat
    and garnish with a few more chopped green onions.

    Serve immediately.

    Serves 4.

    http://simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Wednesday, March 16, 2022 14:21:11
    Dave Drum wrote to JIM WELLER <=-

    Houston, we have a problem. <G>

    Duuuuhhhh. Denis? Abbreviation of "and". Personally I'd just use "&" to save the keystrokes and the silly questions.

    The reason why Jim is asking is that your message is using UTF-8
    apostrophies instead of ASCII apostrophies. That happens when you copy a webpage into a text file with Windows. That "'n'" also showed up as garbage
    in MultiMail here on my computer--which uses the Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1) codepage--but when I switched to use my editor (joe which uses UTF-8
    encoding), I saw the problem immediately.

    I took a screenshot of what I saw here and this is what Jim saw: http://outpostbbs.net/utf.png

    As you can see, what you posted was jibberish.

    So it is not Jim's fault that he didn't understand. You are not properly converting UTF-8 characters to ASCII to post in this echo. This is not the first time this has happened. Many of your recipes have "garbage" in them (most notoriously, the degree symbol) because of improper character translation. Again, this is a problem with copying webpages with UTF-8 encoding into a plain text file with a UTF-8 aware system as it will not properly convert the character's encoding.

    One thing that might help you to do that is to modify your mmail.rc file
    with this line:

    ===
    # Console character set: CP437 (IBM PC) or Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1)
    Charset: Latin-1
    ===

    Change that to CP437 and you might start seeing what the rest of us see. If you're not sure how to modify mmail.rc, send me a note on my BBS and I can
    help you with that. You may have to go through and manually re-type
    offending characters.

    I use links, a text-based Web browser, to properly convert UTF-8 webpages
    into CP437-compatible ones. I can show you how to do that if you are interested.

    This is not a moderator message...it's just me letting you know that it is
    an issue on your side of the screen but it's fixable. :)

    Because it's a cool, rainy day here:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roasted Corn and Lobster Chowder
    Categories: Soups, Lobster, Corn, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    4 Ears fresh sweet corn;
    (about 2 cups corn)
    Butter; for brushing corn
    2 tb Unsalted butter
    1 lg Peeled & diced onion;
    (about 1 cup)
    2 Celery stalks; diced
    1 Leek; split, cleaned, and
    Diced
    1 lg Sweet red pepper; diced
    2 Seeded & diced jalapeno
    Peppers; (2 to 3)
    2 ts Ground cumin
    1 ts Ground coriander
    1 Vanilla bean; split and
    Seeds
    Scraped out
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    2 qt Hot chicken stock
    1 Two-pound lobster
    1/2 c Creme fraiche

    Hack lobster tail into sections, crack claws, tie body in cheesecloth
    & reserve.

    Brush corn lightly with butter and grill until toasted on all sides.
    Cut the roasted corn off of their cobs, reserving the corn to add
    later. Reserve the cobs, too!

    Melt the 2 T. butter in a large, heavy bottomed soup pot. Add the corn
    cobs, the onion, celery, leek and peppers, and saute until the
    vegetables are soft, but not browned. Add the cumin, coriander,
    vanilla, salt and cayenne and cook for 2 to 3 minutes to release the
    flavors. Add the chicken stock and bring to a boil. Reduce to a
    simmer and add the reserved corn cobs along with the lobster body
    that has been tied in cheesecloth. Cook 40 to 45 minutes, then remove
    the cobs and the lobster body. Add the hacked lobster (and cracked
    claws, I assume - Holly) and simmer for 4 to 5 minutes before
    stirring in the creme fraiche. Serve immediately.

    Yield 1 1/2 quarts chowder.

    Recipe by: Michael Lomonaco, MICHAEL'S PLACE From: Holly Butman

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Thursday, March 17, 2022 01:16:06
    On 03-16-22 06:26, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Jim Weller about Gas etc. <=-


    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Title: Bacon ’n’ Creme Haystacks

    What is ’n’?

    Duuuuhhhh. Denis? Abbreviation of "and". Personally I'd just use "&"
    to save the keystrokes and the silly questions.

    Dave you need to realize that when you cut and paste from some web
    sites, there are characters there that do not render in a usual ASCII
    based reader. What shows up here in my BWave (and I suppose in Jim's
    since he asked the question) is a sequence of seven "high-ascii"
    characters.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Southwestern Grilled Pork Chops
    Categories: Easy, Tested, Grill
    Yield: 2 Servings

    4 ts Dried minced onion
    6 ts Ground cumin
    2 ts Cornstarch
    3 ts Chili powder
    3 ts Dried minced garlic
    1 ts Dried oregano
    1 ts Paprika
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    2 ea Bone in pork loin chops
    (about 3/4 inch thick)
    1/4 c Barbeque sauce
    2 tb Lime juice

    In a small bowl, combine the first eight ingredients, rub over pork
    chops.

    Place pork chops in a large resealable plastic bag or glass baking
    dish . In another small bowl, combine barbecue sauce and lemon juice.
    Spoon over both sides of the pork chops, gently rub bag to
    distribute sauce. If using glass pan cover with plastic wrap.
    Refrigerate 1 - 2 hours.

    I prefer using glass baking dish.

    If grilling, coat grill rack with nonstick cooking spray before
    starting the grill. Preheat grill, place chops on grill then turn off
    middle burner - close lid and cook with indirect heat a medium
    heat for 20 minutes.

    OR broil 6 inch from the heat for 6 - 8 minutes on each side OR until
    meat thermometer reads 160 degrees.

    Southwest "kick" flavor to meat. Will do again.

    Serving: 234 calories, 8 g fat (3 g saturated fat) 81 mg
    cholesterol, 202 mg sodium, 8 g carbohydrate 1 g fiber. Diabetic
    Exchange 4 lean meat and 1/2 starch. Weight Watchers approx 5 points.


    From Sandy Shortt; Light/Tasty Magazine Aug/Sept 2004

    Last cooked 7-6-2010.

    MMMMM


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