Quoting Ruth Haffly to Dale Shipp <=-
using the vent on the stove.
it just vents back into the kitchen
Basically like ours but Steve said it vents into the attic.
On 04-19-22 22:13, Jim Weller <=-
spoke to Ruth Haffly about range hoods <=-
using the vent on the stove.
it just vents back into the kitchen
Basically like ours but Steve said it vents into the attic.
That's bad design too. The vent pipe should always go all the way to
an outside stack. Even more importantly so should the clothes
dryer. Otherwise the attic is getting too much moisture pumped into
it, enough to cause condensation build-up, winter ice crystals and
then eventually mold.
Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-
using the vent on the stove.
it just vents back into the kitchen
Basically like ours but Steve said it vents into the attic.
That's bad design too. The vent pipe should always go all the way to
an outside stack. Even more importantly so should the clothes
dryer. Otherwise the attic is getting too much moisture pumped into
it, enough to cause condensation build-up, winter ice crystals and
then eventually mold.
Our clothes dryer also does not vent to the outside. Instead, it vents into a condenser which precipitates the water into a tray. We have to empty the tray before every load in the dryer. PITA.
using the vent on the stove.
it just vents back into the kitchen
Basically like ours but Steve said it vents into the attic.
That's bad design too. The vent pipe should always go all the way to
an outside stack. Even more importantly so should the clothes
dryer. Otherwise the attic is getting too much moisture pumped into
it, enough to cause condensation build-up, winter ice crystals and
then eventually mold.
Ruth Haffly wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
an outside stack. Even more importantly so should the clothes
dryer. Otherwise the attic is getting too much moisture pumped into
it, enough to cause condensation build-up, winter ice crystals and
then eventually mold.
The dryer does vent to the outside, not a problem there. We used to
(many years ago) have one vented to the inside so yes, I know of the condensation build up. We did end up venting it outside.
Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-
the vent pipe should always go all the way to
an outside stack. Even more importantly so should the clothes
dryer. Otherwise the attic is getting too much moisture pumped into
it
Our clothes dryer also does not vent to the outside. Instead, it
vents into a condenser which precipitates the water into a tray. We
have to empty the tray before every load in the dryer. PITA.
The dryer does vent to the outside, not a problem there. We used to
(many years ago) have one vented to the inside so yes, I know of the condensation build up. We did end up venting it outside.
Something you may want to do in the winter time when the air inside
the home becomes "dry" and many people use a humidifier to add
moisture to
the air - remove the vent hose and let the dryer vent into the living space - after attaching an old nylon stocking or pair of panty hose to
the vent to catch the lint that has escaped the dryer's lint trap.
Sure does cut down on shocking stuff like static electricity.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
The dryer does vent to the outside, not a problem there. We used to
(many years ago) have one vented to the inside so yes, I know of the condensation build up. We did end up venting it outside.
Something you may want to do in the winter time when the air inside
the home becomes "dry" and many people use a humidifier to add
moisture to the air - remove the vent hose and let the dryer vent
into the living space - after attaching an old nylon stocking or
pair of panty hose to the vent to catch the lint that has escaped
the dryer's lint trap. Sure does cut down on shocking stuff like
static electricity.
That's what we did do; we were in a small double wide trailer with low ceilings. So much humidity would build up in the winter that it would
rain inside so we jury rigged a venting out a nearby (to the dryer) window. Much better!
moisture to the air - remove the vent hose and let the dryer vent
into the living space - after attaching an old nylon stocking or
pair of panty hose to the vent to catch the lint that has escaped
the dryer's lint trap. Sure does cut down on shocking stuff like
static electricity.
That's what we did do; we were in a small double wide trailer with low ceilings. So much humidity would build up in the winter that it would
rain inside so we jury rigged a venting out a nearby (to the dryer) window. Much better!
My dryer at the tin can vented through the floor and then through the skirting. But, in winter when the cold air doesn't hold much moisture
the tip (from Mother Earth News) about venting it inside sure did
help.
Then the dryer died. And I bought a drying rack to dry the weekly
wash. Which also helped put moisture back into the air. Bv)= And was much easier on the budget than replacing/repairing the dryer.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
We mainly heated with wood, with a propane back up in that place.
Then the dryer died. And I bought a drying rack to dry the weekly
wash. Which also helped put moisture back into the air. Bv)= And was much easier on the budget than replacing/repairing the dryer.
True, we had a rack many years ago. I prefer the dryer now. We replaced
a 7 year old with drum issues this past winter with an older (unknown
age) but working model just after this past Christmas.
We mainly heated with wood, with a propane back up in that place.
On the farm we heated with wood. And in the winter there was *always*
a shallow pan of water on top of the heating stove to add moisture to
the dry winter air.
Then the dryer died. And I bought a drying rack to dry the weekly
wash. Which also helped put moisture back into the air. Bv)= And was much easier on the budget than replacing/repairing the dryer.
True, we had a rack many years ago. I prefer the dryer now. We replaced
a 7 year old with drum issues this past winter with an older (unknown
age) but working model just after this past Christmas.
I remember, too, "back in the day" hanging clothes outside on clothes lines - as long as there weren't a lot of birds overhead. But the
dryer is much more convenient.
Title: Chinese Laundry Casserole
Categories: Beef, Rice, Vegetables, Pasta, Soups
Yield: 9 Servings
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
We mainly heated with wood, with a propane back up in that place.
On the farm we heated with wood. And in the winter there was *always*
a shallow pan of water on top of the heating stove to add moisture to
the dry winter air.
We had a cast iron tea kettle on the stove. If you remember old Mother Earth News magazines from the early 80s, I think Consolidated Dutch
West advertised in them. That's where we got the stove and tea kettle.
Had to leave them when Steve joined the Army but it was a nice little stove.
Then the dryer died. And I bought a drying rack to dry the weekly
wash. Which also helped put moisture back into the air. Bv)= And was much easier on the budget than replacing/repairing the dryer.
True, we had a rack many years ago. I prefer the dryer now. We replaced
a 7 year old with drum issues this past winter with an older (unknown
age) but working model just after this past Christmas.
I remember, too, "back in the day" hanging clothes outside on clothes lines - as long as there weren't a lot of birds overhead. But the
dryer is much more convenient.
My mom got her first dryer when I was in 8th grade so I had plenty of "freeze dried" clothes. Sometimes she'd hang them in the cellar but
most often, outside. Don't remember any bird issues with them.
Title: Chinese Laundry Casserole
Categories: Beef, Rice, Vegetables, Pasta, Soups
Yield: 9 Servings
Hmmmmm, this might be worth trying for our small group at church or for the mission team when we go to VT. Thanks.
On the farm we heated with wood. And in the winter there was *always*
a shallow pan of water on top of the heating stove to add moisture to
the dry winter air.
We had a cast iron tea kettle on the stove. If you remember old Mother Earth News magazines from the early 80s, I think Consolidated Dutch
West advertised in them. That's where we got the stove and tea kettle.
Had to leave them when Steve joined the Army but it was a nice little stove.
I remember the "original" M.E.N. well and have their archives on a
thumb drive. As well as the often referenced Fox Fire books. (Not to
be mixed up/confused with Faux News)
I had a slow burn/controlled cumbustion wood stove in the living area
of my 1st house. I often used it to slow cook stews, etc. in my Dutch
oven whilst I was at work.
Then the dryer died. And I bought a drying rack to dry the weekly
wash. Which also helped put moisture back into the air. Bv)= And was much easier on the budget than replacing/repairing the dryer.
True, we had a rack many years ago. I prefer the dryer now. We replaced
a 7 year old with drum issues this past winter with an older (unknown
age) but working model just after this past Christmas.
My main gripe with the rack was that it left any lint picked up in the washer on the items. Until the motor of the dryer died I would toss
the dried laundry in it and use the "air" setting to tumble and
de-lint the items.
I remember, too, "back in the day" hanging clothes outside on clothes lines - as long as there weren't a lot of birds overhead. But the
dryer is much more convenient.
My mom got her first dryer when I was in 8th grade so I had plenty of "freeze dried" clothes. Sometimes she'd hang them in the cellar but
most often, outside. Don't remember any bird issues with them.
Birds weren't a huge problem most of the time as the clothes lines
were located well away from any trees or other roosting places. But a murder of crows or murmuration of starlings could (and did a time or
two) cause a re-wash of the day's laundry.
Title: Chinese Laundry Casserole
Categories: Beef, Rice, Vegetables, Pasta, Soups
Yield: 9 Servings
Hmmmmm, this might be worth trying for our small group at church or for the mission team when we go to VT. Thanks.
Here's another mushroom thing I have done with good success:
Title: Dirty Rice w/Mushrooms
Categories: Rice, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings
1/4 c Neutral oil
1/2 c Fine chopped yellow onion
1/2 c Fine chopped celery
1/2 c Fine chopped bell pepper
Salt & black pepper
8 oz Cremini mushrooms; trimmed,
- fine chopped
1 tb Minced garlic
2 c Long-grain white rice
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I remember the "original" M.E.N. well and have their archives on a
We subscribed to the original M.E.N. back in the late 70s/early 80s.
That was enjoyable reading.
thumb drive. As well as the often referenced Fox Fire books. (Not to
be mixed up/confused with Faux News)
My parents gave one of my sisters several of those books. Don't know if she ever did anything with them tho.
I had a slow burn/controlled cumbustion wood stove in the living area
of my 1st house. I often used it to slow cook stews, etc. in my Dutch
oven whilst I was at work.
I was a stay at home, raising kids, mom when we had the wood stove.
Never tried cooking on it as it didn't have a lot of room on the top.
Then the dryer died. And I bought a drying rack to dry the weekly
wash. Which also helped put moisture back into the air. Bv)= And was much easier on the budget than replacing/repairing the dryer.
True, we had a rack many years ago. I prefer the dryer now. We replaced
a 7 year old with drum issues this past winter with an older (unknown
age) but working model just after this past Christmas.
My main gripe with the rack was that it left any lint picked up in the washer on the items. Until the motor of the dryer died I would toss
the dried laundry in it and use the "air" setting to tumble and
de-lint the items.
As long as the motor was working, why not? Ours developed a tear in the drum (no idea how) that couldn't be patched (tried it, unsuccessfully).
Title: Chinese Laundry Casserole
Categories: Beef, Rice, Vegetables, Pasta, Soups
Yield: 9 Servings
Hmmmmm, this might be worth trying for our small group at church or for the mission team when we go to VT. Thanks.
Here's another mushroom thing I have done with good success:
Title: Dirty Rice w/Mushrooms
Categories: Rice, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings
1/4 c Neutral oil
1/2 c Fine chopped yellow onion
1/2 c Fine chopped celery
1/2 c Fine chopped bell pepper
Salt & black pepper
8 oz Cremini mushrooms; trimmed,
- fine chopped
1 tb Minced garlic
2 c Long-grain white rice
We use brown rice; I'd have to add more cooking time to it.
Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-
Title: Brown Rice & Beans
thumb drive. As well as the often referenced Fox Fire books. (Not to
be mixed up/confused with Faux News)
My parents gave one of my sisters several of those books. Don't know if she ever did anything with them tho.
From the jacket blurb: In 1966, an English teacher and students in Northeast Georgia founded a quarterly magazine, not only as a vehicle
to learn the required English curriculum, but also to teach others
about
the customs, crafts, traditions, and lifestyle of their Appalachian
I had a slow burn/controlled cumbustion wood stove in the living area
of my 1st house. I often used it to slow cook stews, etc. in my Dutch
oven whilst I was at work.
I was a stay at home, raising kids, mom when we had the wood stove.
Never tried cooking on it as it didn't have a lot of room on the top.
They are (Vermont Castings) still making the model of stove that I had
- the price has gone up, though.
True, we had a rack many years ago. I prefer the dryer now. We replaced
a 7 year old with drum issues this past winter with an older (unknown
age) but working model just after this past Christmas.
My main gripe with the rack was that it left any lint picked up in the washer on the items. Until the motor of the dryer died I would toss
the dried laundry in it and use the "air" setting to tumble and
de-lint the items.
As long as the motor was working, why not? Ours developed a tear in the drum (no idea how) that couldn't be patched (tried it, unsuccessfully).
That was my thought.
8<----- CHOP ----->B
Title: Chinese Laundry Casserole
Categories: Beef, Rice, Vegetables, Pasta, Soups
Yield: 9 Servings
Hmmmmm, this might be worth trying for our small group at church or for the mission team when we go to VT. Thanks.
Here's another mushroom thing I have done with good success:
Title: Dirty Rice w/Mushrooms
Categories: Rice, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings
1/4 c Neutral oil
1/2 c Fine chopped yellow onion
1/2 c Fine chopped celery
1/2 c Fine chopped bell pepper
Salt & black pepper
8 oz Cremini mushrooms; trimmed,
- fine chopped
1 tb Minced garlic
2 c Long-grain white rice
We use brown rice; I'd have to add more cooking time to it.
I did this using brown rice last week:
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
Title: Brown Rice & Beans
Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Sausage, Beans
Yield: 6 servings
1 lg Onion; peeled, diced small
1 lg Bell pepper; cored, diced
2 c Brown rice
1 lb Italian sausage
15 oz Can pinto beans; undraines
15 oz Can red beans; undrained
Salt & pepper
pn Cayenne
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
thumb drive. As well as the often referenced Fox Fire books. (Not to
be mixed up/confused with Faux News)
My parents gave one of my sisters several of those books. Don't
know if she ever did anything with them tho.
From the jacket blurb: In 1966, an English teacher and students in Northeast Georgia founded a quarterly magazine, not only as a vehicle
to learn the required English curriculum, but also to teach others
about
the customs, crafts, traditions, and lifestyle of their Appalachian
They were quite interesting; if I ever come across a set in good condition, I'll nab it.
I had a slow burn/controlled cumbustion wood stove in the living area
of my 1st house. I often used it to slow cook stews, etc. in my Dutch
oven whilst I was at work.
I was a stay at home, raising kids, mom when we had the wood stove.
Never tried cooking on it as it didn't have a lot of room on the top.
They are (Vermont Castings) still making the model of stove that I had
- the price has gone up, though.
Hasn't everything? Trever Noah had it right at the Washington Correspondant's Dinner the other night......he said something about
things are looking up......price of gas, gallon of milk, carton of eggs.........
8<----- CHOP ----->B
We use brown rice; I'd have to add more cooking time to it.
I did this using brown rice last week:
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
Title: Brown Rice & Beans
Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Sausage, Beans
Yield: 6 servings
1 lg Onion; peeled, diced small
1 lg Bell pepper; cored, diced
2 c Brown rice
1 lb Italian sausage
15 oz Can pinto beans; undraines
15 oz Can red beans; undrained
Salt & pepper
pn Cayenne
Looks easy enough.
thumb drive. As well as the often referenced Fox Fire books. (Not to
They were quite interesting; if I ever come across a set in good condition, I'll nab it.
Check https://www.thriftbooks.com/series/the-foxfire-series/37162/
Not cheap but well worth the money. Also check e-Bay, Etsy and Craig's List for people unloading a full(ish) set. AFAIK they're still in
print and new volumes are issued occasionally.
I had a slow burn/controlled cumbustion wood stove in the living area
of my 1st house. I often used it to slow cook stews, etc. in my Dutch
oven whilst I was at work.
I was a stay at home, raising kids, mom when we had the wood stove.
Never tried cooking on it as it didn't have a lot of room on the top.
They are (Vermont Castings) still making the model of stove that I had
- the price has gone up, though.
Hasn't everything? Trever Noah had it right at the Washington Correspondant's Dinner the other night......he said something about
things are looking up......price of gas, gallon of milk, carton of eggs.........
I tell people "The only thing going down these days is the left front
tire of your car." Bv)=
We use brown rice; I'd have to add more cooking time to it.
I did this using brown rice last week:
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
Title: Brown Rice & Beans
Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Sausage, Beans
Yield: 6 servings
1 lg Onion; peeled, diced small
1 lg Bell pepper; cored, diced
2 c Brown rice
1 lb Italian sausage
15 oz Can pinto beans; undraines
15 oz Can red beans; undrained
Salt & pepper
pn Cayenne
Looks easy enough.
'twas. Even easier using Uncle Ben's. Bv)=
Title: Foxfire's Old-Fashioned Pickled Eggs
Categories: Eggs, Preserving, Snacks
Yield: 3 dozen
36 lg Eggs
4 c White vinegar
4 tb Sugar
1 c Water
2 tb Salt
2 Chile peppers (opt)
3 tb Pickling spice
3 md White onions; sliced thin
Cheesecloth & kitchen string
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